+ 8 1st cycle - week 7 progress
On 400 mg per week of test E split M,W,F and cialis 10mg ed. I incorporated 10mg anavar at the start of week 3. Week 5 I started 20mg anavar and now at 30. Felt way better on 30 over 20mg var. Aggression/pump and endurance was very noticeable.
Have attained gains on all lifts, especially leg press and dumbell bench. 70lbs dumbells for reps of 3-5 was my max prior to cycle. Now able to get 85lbs for 4-5 reps. My goal is 100lbs by end of cycle. I have gained 12-15 lbs in weight depending on the day. My beard has also gained . Overall have been feeling great and am going to keep pushing hard in and out of the gym. Ontop of all of this, what i am most impressed with is I have been sober for 2 months now!
Only regret is not starting sooner. Have always been an extremely hard gainer and overtrained on top of not eating properly. Test has given me a hunger I have never experienced before and a libido in have not experienced since i was 16.
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A little update: My e2 at week 4 was at 80, didn't think much of it, wasn't really having any issues. Just had Bloods drawn again @ week 8 and e2 sky rocketed at 194. Have been noticing some mood swings, not bitchyness but get pissed the hell off at some small shit
Also having some very oily skin but no pimples and some sleep issues "which i have anyways".I suppose I need to get my aromasin dosage figured out now and have Bloods drawn again in a couple of weeks.
So, my plan is to jump on aro for 12.5 mg for the next 3 or 4 days then try eod after that. Goi.g to need to get some more. Also, have been looking into proviron
People with experience what’s yall go to for estrogen blockers? Have you like one more than the other? Raloxfine, novadex, or arimadex?
Please don't hijack Asa 's post, look in the newbie section.
Good progress.
Thx Bro! Lots of work to do and will love every sec of it
I see that army tatt. Nice progress I see.
Thx DeeMan! Working hard
Keep ya head down and keep it up.
Anavar is magical
Oh hell yeah it is
Looking good bro.. Keep it up...
Looking better
Lookin good bud!
Thanks primo!
Not to play Devils advocate, but as seen as you are already using it anyway - Anavar at 50mg daily is where its at for strength gains if you wanna get those 100's rolling! Make sure you are using creatine also as Var increases your muscles creatine stores considerably.
Excellent information brother that’s what we need more of ! Sticky this in a forum post
Well hello Mr Devil
Yes sir, I take creatine gummies daily. I'd didn't know that var increases creatine stores. So would it behoove me to up the creatine mg more? I can't recall the literature but remember seeing that some people go as high as 12mg daily while on cycle.
Personally mate I would stick with the monohydrate version, I've always found it to be the most effective especially the German Creapure micronized version. I would go no higher than 10mg per day buddy, remember it sticks around in you for a while after discontinuing it too, so it has the ability to mess up your kidney blood work and eGFR if tested within a month of stopping using it. Although to be honest as anavar is metabolized by the kidneys mostly rather than the liver it will cause your eGFR and creatinine clearance rates to suffer a little anyway.
Yep, I use the tastey gains gummies. They are monohydrate.
My creatinine levels were high on my blood test. Was on var plus was not drinking enough water / electrolytes...which I now have under control. Good info, thank you!!!
First cycle shoulda been just test so you can get bloods and see how your body uses test. Simple....work and adjust e2 as/if needed. Enjoy...keep it simple..
Post cycle its FOOD that maintains gains, not gear.
You are right jock. I jumped the gun with var 1st cycle.
Enjoy! Take notes and learn, youll do well!!
Thanks jock
I did the same thing but I ran 50mgs a day. You just see results and get excited man shit idk
Lol yep, pretty much. Hell, just being on 30 was like damn!!! Felt great.
If you add masteron say 200 mg should lower your e2 abit
Blood work only way to tell! Everyone different ! Big diff in masking E2 vs actually lowering E2 … same thing with Provi
I see a lot of people complain of low e2 symptoms while using Ai but what’s happening is there are actual side effects of using these drugs … could have high e2 and take aromasin and have joint pain and still have high e2 … very common side effect of aromasin
Proof??
Alright, I see a lot of guys arguing whether Masteron can really control estrogen or if it’s just bro-science. @Asa @anvil @wanted @bigMikey(impossible to tag lol) Well,
Masteron, Drostanolone P was originally made to treat breast cancer, you all know that…so yeah, it does have anti-estrogenic properties. That’s why some people use it in a cycle thinking they don’t need an AI. But does it actually work like one?
That’s the thing: some say Masteron acts like Tamoxifen, binding to estrogen receptors, which could mean it helps regulate estrogen to some extent. Others say that’s not true and that its effect on E2 is too weak to be a reliable AI replacement. There’s no solid proof that it directly inhibits aromatase like Arimidex or Aromasin, like @Jockstrap said…BUT… What it does do is help keep estrogenic sides in check—less water retention, harder look, and maybe even some mild estrogen control when used in high doses.
But let’s be real….if you’re running a high-test cycle, relying on Masteron alone to manage E2 is a risky move. It’s not gonna save you from gyno if your estrogen is sky-high. Now, if you’re on moderate test or running a DHT-based cycle, Masteron might help balance things out a little. It also has some anti-prolactin effects, which is another bonus.
So the point is… If you’re prone to estrogen-related sides and running a test-heavy cycle, don’t expect Masteron to do the job of a real AI. But if your estrogen is already in a good range, it might help keep things stable. Just don’t go thinking you can blast test and cruise on Masteron alone without consequences.
Just my 2 cents: I always use Masteron, mainly for the benefits on libido, aggression, Some concentration, and that overall “alpha” feeling. It definitely influences these aspects way more than Primobolan. But let’s be real….its anabolic effect is basically zero(above Proviron but way lower than primo). Don’t expect to build any real muscle mass with it. For that, Primo is the better choice! Even though both are DHT-derived, they’re not actually DHT itself…they’re more like toned-down versions of it. That said, if you’re prone to hair loss, be ready because both can speed it up. But here’s the weird part: it’s super individual. Some guys lose more hair than others, like @anvil…. For example, Anavar makes me shed more than Masteron or Primo… go figure! Everyone reacts differently, right?
@BFG Please would you be able to change Mikeyt84L.I..N.Y. to MikeyLI so that we can tag his name more easily? lol I have asked him and he wants to do this
Yes please can my name be changed. I didn't realize things like this when i first joined.
What about M ….. just M one single letter I think we can tag that easily
You mean like 'M' from James Bond? LMAO Or how about 'Q' ....
Now we are talking lol Big Mikey will lose his special one status but it’s for a good cause lol
Even when I tried to tag him spelling everything correctly it didn't seem to link LOL I think he even managed to confuse the computer when he set that Mother up!!! Lmao
I like mast and run it in most cycles. Just run the blood test so you know how if effects you. Mast also gives a hard boner so theres that as well.
Exactly….mast is always on when I’m running deca or Tren. Blood work is king, always
I believe there is 5 path ways to hair loss. That is why different compounds work differently on peoples heads.
What are the 5 pathways in your opinion? Genetic factor? Conversion of Testosterone into DHT? Curious to know your opinion on this.
There is a better explanation I have seen of it, but I cannot find it, I will send it when I do.
DHT factors -
1. Increased 5-alpha reductase activity
The enzyme 5-alpha reductase converts testosterone into DHT. In balding scalps, the activity of this enzyme increases, leading to higher DHT levels.
2. Elevated DHT levels
As a result of increased 5-alpha reductase activity, DHT levels rise in the scalp, contributing to the hair loss process.
3. DHT binding to hair follicle receptors
DHT binds to androgen receptors on hair follicles, signaling them to shrink and eventually stop producing hair.
4. Hair follicle miniaturization
DHT exposure causes hair follicles to shrink, resulting in thinner, shorter hairs, a process known as miniaturization.
5. Progression of Androgenetic Alopecia (AGA)
The combined effects of these pathways lead to the progression of AGA, or male pattern baldness.
Thanks for sharing, yes, it is indeed well explained. People react in different ways to the same compounds, this is always very curious. The strangest thing I have seen in recent years was a friend who had hair loss because of Deca. Total madness. Deca is very anabolic and not very androgenic, in other words, this is a completely unexpected side effect of this drug. Anyway...
I still give some importance to my hair, but those who are prone to it will hardly escape.
My hair starts falling out just thinking about people taking DHT pwo. These people don't care.
I love my hair !
You’re not alone my man
My hairline remains the same since got into this lifestyle , BUT the quality of the hair has become more fragile and the hair is thinner. And I consider myself lucky, for not being prone to Alopecia. Of course I try to avoid stupid stacks and always supplementing and stuff like that. But never had dut or fin, i don’t think I need it, not yet.
You can use them, but topical only.
Do you have them in your protocol ? If so any sides ? Many horror stories out there about PFS….
I did but I am bad about it. No sides from topical, no.
I try to block out all talk about hair loss. I’m not ready to accept it!
I got you ! What about using Dut or Fin Ad Infinitum ? I mean I heard horror stories but as long as you keep your bishop boner wiser, you good to go lol
I did look into it fin slightly. Heard the bad and just said fuck it. I’ve had long hair for practically my entire life. Mufasa like Mane. Been referred to as the Mexican Fabio lmao. I do experience shedding so I imagine if I don’t act now I will suffer the consequences. I’ll revisit this topic since ima about to try mast. Godspeed gentlemen!