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Debating running next, what’s everyone’s doses/protocol looking like? Gram a week? Less? What labs have been good for you guys ?

exoticnfit's picture

Got some Primo saved up and was debating when to start it up!

Was thinking 10-14weeks out from next prep but it seems it could be good to add at any time even during a grow season.

Has anyone used it longer than 16weeks?

Was thinking of 20weeks out starting at 400-500mg and bumping it up as one gets closer to the show. So 700 by week 14, 800 by 10weeks out and possibly higher if its not just wasteful to go over.

Obviously many have hit the 1K club on it but I have not ever used it. Used about everything else but Primo based on old school thought was for Prep and I just didn't bother prior.

Jim Layhey's picture

i feel like we need a new ultra restricted advanced-super saiyon cycles with All the goodies lol would a mod bless this? Or do we stay in the closet about it :’(

Tbone69's picture

This is a hidden group, you can talk about anything in here, from insulin to press1's obsession with small diameter deadlift bars.
From bulkdaddy cruising on 1g tren to when Rusty hooker will attempt a return.

Or about how you said;

Stay on the closet

Whatever you want babygirl
Nohomo..

press1's picture

Small diameter AND bendy Smile Seriously - you ever tried one? You wouldn't think a simple bar would make so much difference to the feel of a lift - I use to think it was just a gimmick.

MonstrousS's picture

I fucking love narrow diameter bars. I've even encountered wider bars that also have an offset of weight somewhere within the cylinder, making every lift feel skewed in really shitty but hard to indentify way. Narrow solid bars are THE BEST for deads, rows, RDLs--- that's about it. Arguably bench, but I know anyone who wants to maximize efficiency in bench and squatting, uses thick unbending bars and I completely get why.

Tbone69's picture

My gym doesn't have one, I looked the day after you talked about it actually, it seems like a no brainier when you think about it!

Jim Layhey's picture

We can talk about insulin? Diuretics? Combo of both?!

MonstrousS's picture

Yessir I made this group because the other one was manned by a now banned individual, and it didn't look particularly active over there, so rather than going thru all those dated posts over there trying to revive some spark, I figured some folks would like a fresh slate to dig into topics for themselves. Even tho we get to read a ton of other people's convos on here, there's always unique value in having the convo the way you'd have it. You can talk about your dirty butthole, how much you love them, how much aas you do or do not pin your girl with when she's sleeping, etc.

Bearded_muscle's picture

That’s sort of the point of having this section.

Bearded_muscle's picture

As a mostly standalone compound run it at a gram to 1.2 with low test and low mast (or low test and low tren as bulkdaddy suggested). It’s a great anabolic but will add zero for sex drive, zero for aggression, zero for strength. On the plus side you don’t feel like you’re on gear at all so you basically get the fullness and pumps without any bullshit. I add the mast or tren to bring just a bit of androgenic traits in, obviously the mast will be gentler.

As a stacker it’s so fucking good because you can throw it in with damn near anything, a heavy deca bulker, a lean cutter with some DHB. A kitchen sink mast, tren, npp, high test precontest run. It will make them all better. Great way to add anabolics without additional side effects as the doses get high. Stacking 500-700 is plenty. I tend to drop it to 500 at the end of the cycle anyway as more than that does see a SLIGHT bit of water retention. Like a pound maybe. Normally not a big deal but if you’re drying out for pics or stage I wouldn’t keep it in at more than 500.

I just finished up a run of primo, mast, DHB, test. Just about everything around 500mgs and it was an awesome cutter.

Jim Layhey's picture

but will add zero for sex drive, zero for aggression

This actually draws me to it. I HATE how I feel on juice for the most part I don’t like to feel juiced out honestly hate high sex drive. Which is why I stay clear from tren. I like that idea tho low test, gram of Primo and low mast that sounds perfect honestly. Damn Bro you sold me gonna start adding it in all my cycles from now on weird I haven’t ran it before haha thanks for your input big dog!

Tbone69's picture

I don’t like to feel juiced out honestly hate high sex drive.

Fuck you give me your man card.

MonstrousS's picture

Lol. TBH I tend to adjust my test dose up or down 200(ish)mgs every couple months, just to keep that unnatural sex drive going from the onset of the hormone change! It can be frustrating when my partners aren't available, and I have to check myself when driving, because any skinny girl with skin showing becomes more important than the road in front of me, but we don't use these hormones because we wanna live a long life anyway!

Jim Layhey's picture

Tbone69's picture

I miss him.

Full homo.

Bulkdaddy's picture

Run tren with it...

Jim Layhey's picture

I can’t man I always end my body’s brain chemistry does not handle that compound well lol

Bulkdaddy's picture

I’ve gotten used to it over the years.

Jim Layhey's picture

Is there a Mrs bulkdaddy

Bulkdaddy's picture

Used too... broke up 5 months ago slammed through about 10 girls since then... I actually just recently met a girl well known her... I think imma keep her though... She’s really sweet and beautiful that’s what I need... when I say beautiful like a 10..... My taste in women are a lot better than these other horn dogs on Eroids! Lmfao

Jim Layhey's picture

slammed through about 10 guys since then...

Jesus during a pandemic!

Bulkdaddy's picture

Girls* bet yep... I’ve had the Dino’s about 2 months ago a girl I was right had it and I...we got it from a private party at someone’s birthday... I got a group text from about 13 different people. We all had the same symptom...

Jim Layhey's picture

We all had the same symptom

Oh yikes man is it herpes?

Bulkdaddy's picture

Lol nah damn spellcheck fucked up covid some how...

MonstrousS's picture

Lol for real tho. These hormones do not mix well with being mature about social distancing.

Jim Layhey's picture

Lmao this is why I keep my estrogen higher makes me
Less horny

Tbone69's picture

Unless you're married or have a girl!

The damn kids keep me socially distant from her too... FML

MonstrousS's picture

Ayyyyyyeeee!!!

josipgates's picture

Primo is estrogen neutral and that is biggest difference from mast,also mast is DHT and primo is DHB derivative... primo is very selective,all it does is increase nitrogen retention and with slowly builds more pure lean muscle tissue over time...and u don't need to run 1g to get results cause when u reach max nitrogen retention all that extra is just cosmetic effect just cause u have more total mg of drugs in the body...and u just spend shit tone more money for nothing...sweet spot is 500-700,and if u have other compounds there so total mg is high enough u can have some Amazing results

Jim Layhey's picture

Alright thanks for the pointers big guy! If you can accept from friend request had a question on labs didn’t know if were allowed to ask such things hurrrrrr

josipgates's picture

No problem Jim, accepted ;)

Jim Layhey's picture

Sent. Slut.

josipgates's picture

Replied. Whore.

MonstrousS's picture

I've never ran it either, and would be curious to hear some detail in compare/contrast between mast and primo. Does primo hurt the hairline as much as mast?

Jim Layhey's picture

The one other time I did mast years ago I was younger and it killed my hair line and brought back hair in to my life hahah

josipgates's picture

Very different...mast has some ai benefits,primo is estrogen neutral,mast is more androgenic and primo more anabolic, mast is DHT and primo is DHB derivative

Max_lifts's picture

I’ve never ran it either but I have run lots of mast and I am mostly bald. I was going to be bald anyway it’s in my genes but the mast sure didn’t help.

Tbone69's picture

No way. Mast is a rough dht...primo is relatively side effect free!