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Fuxk that

press1's picture

Anyway Bud - Going back to the original headline of the post, YOU DO LOOK STRONG!!! You look thick set and Stocky as hell. If you said to me you could bench 500 I wouldn't doubt you at all on it, all the right dimensions and sizes are there with your arms and shoulder thickness's, back size etc.

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23Sparta's picture

Haha appreciate Press and back at you! I am built to press with my Tyrannosaurus rex style arms. Although, one rep at 405 is my PR and I won’t be attempting to break that. I am no longer a spring chicken and I don’t want to end up looking like that guy! I’ll stick to my baby weights and let the food do all the work

DeeMan's picture

@23Sparta how much can you push now on touch and go and pause at chest?

23Sparta's picture

Idk what that is? I stopped flat bench pressing, I’ve been doing a shoulder dominant push day, where I do incline bench. I max out at 235x12 on that lift, but the reps are very slow and controlled. Should I post my 405 lift?

DeeMan's picture

No bro you have no reason to post it seriously. It's not like you're making bogus claims. I believe you. It was just a question that's all. Besides that if you're not competing then no need to lift all that weight risking injuries. You're good man, keep doing you.

23Sparta's picture

lol, I wasn’t offering to post it because I thought you didn’t believe me. I just would have done to it to get critiqued, I mean as much as you could from still shots.

DeeMan's picture

O ok I understand. It's up to you. Either way is fine

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You say that you have t- rex arms now imagine if you had a big sloppy pork belly like some "competitive" powerlifters. Lol you would be repping 405 many times but you have a v- taper waist. Hell those guys only have to move the bar an inch in each direction LOLOL. But yeah I think your claim is valid. Others just don't have the physique for such claims. One guy in our gym made claims he could rep out 405 lol....only problem is he isn't even close to looking like he does and when asked to he couldn't but struggled with 405 once. He wasn't fooling anyone. Like the saying goes don't talk about it be about it LOL. You know what I mean.

23Sparta's picture

I have seen that bridge with a big belly thing. Waaay before I knew what it was or anything about powerlifting. I was trying out a new gym. Out of the corner of my eye I saw one dude laying on the bench and five people surrounding him and it looked like each one had a job. I think some lady was putting a wood block on his chest. Anyway, there were a lot of plates on that bar, so I wanted to watch the lift. I couldn’t understand what I saw, two dudes were on each end of the barbell, the bar came off, dropped like a few inches, touched the block on dudes chest and then back up. It confused the hell out of me

DeeMan's picture

I bet you were confused lol. All you see in the air is a mini mountain lol. I mean range of motion is basically nothing especially if arms are short too. But hey u can't tell those guys nothing. They're so cocky and think they're the strongest guys in the world.

As far as the wood block that's what we use for different sticking points on the lift. I can go on and on...there's alot to it my man.
Probably similar to what you saw lolol

DeeMan's picture

I keep looking at this lol

23Sparta's picture

There’s always some truth in a joke
That picture is no exception

DeeMan's picture

Lmao

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya those lifts like that always leave me scratching my head lol. I mean it’s definitely requires tremendous strength to move weight like that but it’s entirely different than a dude with a 6 and a half foot wingspan with no straps, wraps ,shirts, rubber bands, no huge belly touching the sky and fully bench pressing that weight. These dudes have like 3 inch arms lol and still trying to shorten the range lol.

But I get it, it’s all legal and part of the sport and everyone in that category or division or whatever will be doing the same thing so it’s fine but to see the same weight being done raw without a huge belly being brought up to bar and with really long arms would be immensely more impressive.

honestly I think it should be called something different. Because two guys talking on the street can say “I bench 500” and the other says “I bench 250” but the 500 dude is 4 ft tall with a 300 pound belly and 6 inch arms and lowers the bar maybe 2-3 inches with his spring loaded rubber shirt and the 250 dude is 6’3 and lowers the bar 14 inches and back up. That’s probably almost similar strength requirements. Maybe not with those weight differences but like 315 raw with long arms full range of motion is probably similar to a 405 belly bounce lol

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DeeMan's picture

Absolutely nothing surprises me in this game nowadays...nothing. I've seen alot best believe that! Lol you and I think the same about this and we joke but when you're under say 450, 500 or 500plus it can be a scary feeling for sure. Man any mistake, slipping of bar and it's possibly game over for you. EDIT: It's definitely a trip seeing guys in person bleed from their eyes and nose after a few reps squatting 900 pounds. Like I said I've seen alot, not just talk...facts!

But yea belly lifts are trash! Even most competitive powerlifters know that lol. That's extra assistance that even some powerlifters talk down on. You have to hear the funny stories man. Again not just talk but facts lol

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya I pull way more than I push almost specifically for that reason. I feel way more comfortable going heavy on a pull vs a push. Most pull movements you can just let go and the weight will fall away but most push movements and the weight going to fall on you. And I always train alone so I’m never really able to really push the envelope on bench and lifts like that without a spot

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I like the fact that you and @23Sparta are at least showing the powerlifting community some love. It can be a crazy sport I admit. I mean certain guys push the limits way too far. You guys have no idea lol. For example man ...I remember right before covid we had a guy attempt a 500 pound lift for his opener...his opener! Now that was close to his max... Ok problem was dude had a simple fracture in his forearm. Long story short my man messed himself up even worse. Turned into a compound fracture trying to bench press. When I saw him backstage it was bad. See that's the type of things I've seen. Just craziness. Another guy bled internally and spat up blood, he had over 500 pounds fall on his big pork belly.
It wasn't funny but once the bar fell on him it bounced a few times on his stomach...a lil bouncy action. Looked strange.

Rosschestzip's picture

Oh I would probably be a power lifter if I was stronger. I’m just naturally weak lol. There’s regular dudes my same size who can lift more than me lol. But I love doing heavy back day and crazy leg days and shit and just pushin and grunting and all that so I would’ve probably loved it but I’d be in a body cast by now from so many injuries and I’d be so addicted to it like I am with bodybuilding so it would be impossible to get me to stop so then I’d look like Ronnie Colman trying to still workout in his wheelchair except at 40 not 70 lol.

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DeeMan's picture

It's not for everyone and honestly it will take a toll on the joints before bodybuilding will. I was into various sports also. For me I was always fascinating with strength and not so much size, but good size is nice to have don't get me wrong. Some guys aren't meant to lift big and there's nothing wrong with that. Now @23Sparta you see what Ross said in his last sentence above? Is that what you're willing to pay? Honestly If so ok cool. However you still have to go on and live the rest of life in bad condition. Choices for sure. You mentioned taking risks that's why I asked. Ronnie looks bad!

23Sparta's picture

I am for sure not willing to destroy my body for this shit. That goes against what I’m trying to do. I just want a sick ass physique to cruise through life with. I also wanna make sure I still have enough performance and gas in the tank to be able to go when it’s go time. Stay ready, so I ain’t got to get ready, till death

Rosschestzip's picture

Ya my knee has hurt since like my first week working out lol and I couldn’t bench anymore because of my shoulder hurting (one day it just stopped tho, so I bench now) so I think I have like genetically weak joints or just genetically weak overall but since I train the muscle that’s improved but I guess the joints and ligaments and shit are slow or something. And ya I e always been into size instead of strength but I also am all about pushing the limit and never giving up and just badass like pushing the extreme of human capabilities idk where it’s more about controlling the mind and not allowing it to give up until the body fails. Thats just like the zone I fell in love with which I guess can be used for either powerlifting or body lifting but powerlifting is more like the sprint and bodybuilding is more like the marathon, like sets of 20 vs sets of 1 or 3 or whatever

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DeeMan's picture

I've never heard that but I like that....powerlifting is more a sprint and bodybuilding more of a marathon...I agree.

Rosschestzip's picture

Not like it’s over fast or anything about the sport as a whole but just in terms of the workouts and of sets and reps and stuff

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DeeMan's picture

I know what you mean. That's exactly what it is. Like a sprint is short powerful movements that are over pretty fast.

23Sparta's picture

Woah, brutal af bro. I can respect it though, if that’s your sport, what you love and you want to win that bad…. you take chances. I’ve taken plenty of risky shit to get what I want. Powerlifters are no different

DeeMan's picture

Nah they aren't but at some point even the most hardcore guys gotta be realistic man. If not you'll pay a price. But it's all optional. But yea nothing wrong with taking chances.

23Sparta's picture

lol, I rather take a penitentiary chance, than a torn pec chance

DeeMan's picture

Lol a PENITENTIARY chance!

23Sparta's picture

Lmao, well really, I’d rather not risk either

press1's picture

The Best Lifters in the world will generally always have the best genetics mate that are made for the lift. Being strong at bench has various factors that attribute to it - Body mass, chest depth, arm length (to a certain degree), shoulder size, tendon insertion point in the bone (just mm's can make a huge difference in pivot strength around a joint), tendon strength, recovery rate ability etc. BUT look at John Haack - his genetics aren't that great for bench - long range of motion too yet he is one of the best in the world at it. On the other hand, take a look at the Slobber trough of a lifter Julius Maddox - the guy is a walking joke. About 450lb's of fat on the verge of a heart attack, probably more that basically bounces the bar off himself albeit with a Fat pause Lol The guy has no skill at all and relies on pure bodyweight to get the lift - he can't even bench twice his own bodyweight!! But at the end of the day all the rules in the lift are met so it has to be given.

When you see the guys using Boards thats mainly for the idiots using bench shirts, as the shirt takes all the weight off the chest and shoulders the main area a shirted lifter has to be strong in is the triceps purely for the lockout part of the lift from mid to top end. Effectively you are able to overload that portion of the lift as the range of motion at the bottom is prohibited by the wooden boards. They do look like Donkeys doing it though I will admit Lol Hardest part of the lift for someone pressing raw is right down at the chest as this is the point where you are least mechanical strength and leverage over the bar, this is why I will never understand how someone wearing a bench shirt and effectively cheating the entire lift can even class themselves as a bench presser.

Imagine how degrading it must feel putting a bench press shirt on, knowing you are lifting purely for your own ego LMAO

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Rosschestzip's picture

Ya that makes a lot of sense, like the 8ft basketball player isn’t cheating he’s just built for that sport. Just like a 5’2 power lifter with trex arms is gunna have a HUGE advantage in benching. For deadlifts would you want short legs and long arms? Or is it more just flexibility. I know I suck at squats because of my ankle flex is weak or whatever. So they just feel weird, same with deadlifts, but with dead’s I just feel like I round my back too much and I can feel it, so I always think I’m gunna get hurt so I don’t keep going. No matter what I do I can’t stop myself from rounding it out

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DeeMan's picture

It's crazy because I view those powerlifters or wannabe powerlifters with those big guts yall speak about as basically cheaters in the same category as those guys who use a shirt so neither should complain about the other lol. What's the difference? It's like the pot calling the kettle black, which is plain silly. Both get assistance with weight lifted so both are in that exact same category. Just a walking circus basically. They bounce weight off that JELLY BELLY every time, it never fails. Trust me if you seen one you've seen them all. Like the guy I told yall about, when you pull their card the truth is always revealed...yessir lol! Guys like that get smashed in competition that's why they just talk lol. You see one you've seen them all. Nothing new lol. Those types rely on their big pig gut way too much lol. Makes life easier for them I guess. When it comes to the sport of powerlifting remember the best lifters don't need any assistance and that includes bouncing weight off their big ass sloppy moon sized gut. Now that's basically a walking circus which is clear to all regardless what that dude was thinking...facts. Sorry but I dislike the belly lifts as much as the shirted lifts. It's all cheating really..Just reality. And that's exactly the reason why I don't do as many comps anymore. @23Sparta it's a turn off lol...Just saying.

23Sparta's picture

I bet it’s a turn off. What I don’t understand is, how do they able to hit the bar on their gut? When I bench flat, the bar hits like right below my nipples. So is it because they do the bridge thing?

DeeMan's picture

Yea 99.9% of the time when powerlifters have a bit of a belly they'll definitely use it to their advantage. Seen it many times. It's a disgrace.
Like I said before it might be legal in competition but some folks look down upon it as they should. It's no different than any other lifting aid, only thing is it's naturally on your body lol.

23Sparta's picture

That’s crazy, cause a lot of the time that’s all visceral fat and stupid unhealthy. Kind of a turn off

DeeMan's picture

Yea the bridge and just the path of the bar. I tried it for the hell of it and not only did I feel awkward but my shoulders ached for days afterwards. It's just not a natural movement for me but for others it is. But I only tried it one time and that was enough for me. I was young and figured maybe that's the secret to lifting heavy...negative!

23Sparta's picture

lol, does not look comfortable. Plus, when they set up for that it’s weird. Also wasn’t there a rule change a year or so ago about that?

DeeMan's picture

Yea there was by one powerlfting organization that I know of. Other organizations will eventually follow or in process of following. It will be one less spectacle to see lol.

23Sparta's picture

Yeah, let the lift be more aesthetic

DeeMan's picture

Nothing like a aesthetic jelly belly lol. I see ya with the new avatar

23Sparta's picture

What if they made them were girdles? Yeah I don’t like my new avatar, it’s not me, I’m gonna end up putting another selfie up there

DeeMan's picture

Powerlifting federations should start making girdles. It would be a hot seller lol. You'd be amazed how a 100 pound gut can disappear!

23Sparta's picture

lol, I mean why not? The females use em. These body suits are like magic

DeeMan's picture

I can guarantee you that alot of those guys wouldn't lift in those organizations if girdles were required haha. But wish they were required

23Sparta's picture

Aye, we may be on to something DeeMan lol. Imagine a TiKTok prank or something. Telling these dudes at the meet… rule change bro, you’re gonna have to strap the gut down

DeeMan's picture

LMAO. I'm choking over here man.

23Sparta's picture

Lmao, I think it’d we see some hearts drop

DeeMan's picture

total pressing weight would drop too lol

23Sparta's picture

Lol, no doubt

DeeMan's picture

Lol...girdles. I kinda got use to your old avatar