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I’ve read quit a bit about Keto diets and the requirements to reach the point to where your body goes into Ketosis. My question remains can you achieve strength gains while on it for an extended period of time?
I ask this question with the understanding that there are comflicting points of view inregards to the health risks that are sometimes attributed to being in Ketosis for a long time. So I guess I’m asking this question to anyone who’s maintained it for a long period or knows the knowledge im attempting to gain with this question.
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The KETO diet is an extremely popular diet currently. I have my clients asking about it all the time. Any diet with calorie and carb reductions should grant some fat loss and with Keto your carb intake is typically kept under 50 grams per day or less.
basskiller89I've actually had great success with keto and building however my genetics may be better than others. You can have all the science lined up but it truly comes down to how your body responds and we are all different in that sense. I find it hard to stay in keto while eating adequate calories on or off cycle
Weight will drop quick and you will lose fat......but you will feel terrible and your glycogen will be super depleted so you'll look flat and lose significant strength. I tried it for 4 weeks and lost about 15lbs. (assuming your in a caloric deficit)
For sure! +1
Trying to get bigger or stronger then skip keto. If sole purpose is to lose fat then give keto a try.
basskiller89I don't believe you can be at your 100% strength in keto just because you'll be depleted of glycogen and water IM. Maybe thats the difference between benching 225 and 215, who knows exactly. I think the question depends on whether or not the athlete is enhanced. I would find it quite hard to stay in keto while eating enough calories to grow on a bulk cycle. I have my carbs well over 600 grams on a good cycle. To address your question of growing in keto, yes you can. You may not be performing at 100% but you can surely be growing at your 90% in a true ketosis state as long as you are in a calorie surplus
Why are you asking brother?
Yes you can make strength gains whilst being fat adapted; and when you are in a state of ketosis.
Optimizing fat adaptation is the key....and being able to shift in and out of ketosis. Majority of time residing in ketogenic state.
Unless you are attempting to eradicate cancer cells, I would not suggest staying in a ketogenic state for extended time (e.g. years). It will be very challenging & may cause imbalance resulting in other issues.
The machine that is the human body is perfect at being in fasted states & then feasting... mainly residing in a ketogenic state. We evolved to be in fasted states, then go hunt (depleting glycogen supply)...then feast.
This method is great for weight loss & weight management...but one could argue this is not the optimal diet for Bodybuilding or Sport Performance.
I've been doing keto for the past year. Dropped 95lbs! I hit a wall in the gym pretty quickly. Had to change eating habbits to get the gains back and added ldg and osta. Day after I lift i am starving and eat maintenance. Every other day I eat 300 to 500 deficient. Used to eat 600 to 900 deficient but was to weak and wasn't making gains.
Thanks, that’s great information also. Buuuuut, what’s LDG and OSTA
Stay away from that crap bro. Sarms are way less effective than steroids, but they shut your balls the same!!! Its not worth it
LDG 4033 and ostarine MK 2866 are sarms. Weight loss is almost at a stall when I'm on them. It's more of a recomp. This is my second time on them on keto. When you come off them the lbs just seem to fall off.
For some people including myself if my protein intake is too high it takes me out of ketosis so it can be tricky to find your sweet spot. . When I do keto my aim is to drop bodyfat so I don't really worry about strength gains , I guess if your calories are high enough there's no reason you can't gain strength . Longest I've done keto is around 8 weeks so I can't speak about long term effects .
Thanks, I’ve gotten a pretty good eating routine; but I’m still trying to dial in the carbs for better results. All of y’all feedback is great. Thank you for taking the time to respond.
I’m pretty sure if you’re in a calorie surplus you’ll more likely to get stronger
Keto is great, I know plenty of people who had done it and lost weight, and plenty who couldnt do it. However, the best diet is the one you can maintain. If you can maintain keto, go for it, if not, find something new!
StevebTo answer your question it depends on the person. Some people do even better on a keto diet They get more strength and stay lean. Everyone is different I've heard of others doing the cyclical kept diet with great results.
https://youtu.be/z9wGZOqdXa0
Keto diets have been shown to stave out tumors also. I haven't read anyone having negative health affects from being on a keto diet. Just that it's hard to go into ketosis for some people.
Julian Bakery sells these keto bars that are supposed to put your body into ketosis right away for a few hours and also help you get into ketosis faster once you begin a ketogenic diet.
https://julianbakery.com/product/instaketone-bar/
https://julianbakery.com/product/instaketones-exogenous-ketones-non-caff...