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Maybe I'm more old school... but after reading some threads I'm hoping to add some simplicity to many of the threads.

I understand many of us are driven to be the best "you" when it comes to training, but unless you're stepping on stage stop over complicating things and counting anything with a nutritional value you put in your body.

Your bulk goals dont give a fuck about how many leafs of spinach, 3/4's scoop of oats or 9.7oz of almond milk you intake and write in your diary about right before you watch dancing with the stars every night. It's like watching a monkey trying to fuck a football with your fancy math.

Yes you should have a baseline, but not to the extent I'm reading on here.. if you're looking for dramatic results you gotta make dramatic changes, keep it simple guys, learn your body.

if someone asked me how to lose weight Id say stick to your current training program and for one-month change your diet to:

breakfast eat egg whites, lunch chicken and rice, hell throw in some red meat and fried rice for dinner and over the weekend eat Cheetos on a bean bag chair. Because I can tell by looking at them that the diet I gave them is better their current one and your body has no choice but to cut fat.

ANYONE can work out an hour a day, its the diet that gets everyone who dosent accomplish their cut or bulk goal... I myself was a hard gainer and at one point and in my mid twenties wanted to see if I could go from 240lbs to 300lbs and after a daily 4-5k cal diet and decent cycle I stopped gaining after putting on 20lbs so then I threw in the GOMAD diet on top of that which is a gallon of whole milk a day. and put on another 20lbs. I never hit my goal and after getting sleep apnea from the extra weight I gave it up, but during the process learned alot about what dieting is, its king.. its why your buddy Lance gets more insta likes than you.

I put on a lot of fat during that bulk, but when spring rolled around I cut that shit right off with chicken and god damn rice for breakfast lunch and dinner.

-Never Trust A Man With Soft Hands

giardap's picture

Gomad = +estrogen = soft hands!

Sam I Am's picture

The new thing is to try and walk around at 7 percent year round. Most guys woulnt continue to grow like that. Viking touched on that awhile back. But on the other hand if someone likes micro managing there diet more power to them. It's all personal preference and when I run into things that I don't agree with I just skip over them...

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vhman's picture

Never Trust A Man With Soft Hands

What about moist hands?

Engineereddisaster's picture

What about bloody hands?

Sam I Am's picture

Lol

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Jayzgainz's picture

I'm never going to step on stage but I track my meals. The best thing I did diet wise was to write down everything I ate and get an idea how much I consumed. I put a lot of time into eating, making meals etc but I do it because I enjoy seeing progress with my body and looking and feeling good. I think most of the people here that give diet advice give it knowing that if you track your meals and put 110% into your diet, for a lot of people thats all they will need and wont need aas to gain those 20lbs or to cut bf.

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UnicornAdmin's picture

Nah you took this too personal, sorry if I hit home with the diary comment Smile

If a novice told me he wanted to bulk last thing I'd do is tell him to go buy a diary, I'd say eat more than you're eating now consistently eat that daily and lord knows that scale will move.

Lastly it will help them grasp the concept importance of diet instead of saying yeah kid eat x cals, x fats, x carbs, x protien.

Once they get it, they can tailor it how they want and by all means get a diary to track it.

helloBrooklyn's picture

unless you're stepping on stage

I'm sorry, this gets me every time. You shouldn't be doing this unless you're competing, you don't need that if you're not competing. Well guess what. If we weren't in a constant state of competition with our selves to get better and better, we wouldn't do what we do. Much respect to the guys and girls who compete, but the rest of us who do it for the love of the game aren't chopped liver. If we want to be scientific in our approach, or get shredded for the sake of being shredded (to prove we can!), we have that right. The elitist attitude that "only" people who compete can do certain things is ridiculous.

Nice post

UnicornAdmin's picture

Never met someone I thought was better than me Smile what im saying is they have guidelines for weight classes, and the extent they need to deplete shortly before a show all the way down to water intake is all.

XmadXscientist's picture

The funny thing is I've helped half a dozen people grow who were stuck by making them track their food intake because humans grossly overestimate things.

helloBrooklyn's picture

"Tracking" intake is something I always considered backwards. It doesn't even yield a good baseline because most people--normal people--eat different things every day, so calories will be all over the place. What I always recommend is using the H-B equation, find an estimation of the cals required to maintain, adjust based on goals, and then lay out a full diet in advance and stick to it. Every damn day, save maybe one reasonable cheat meal/refeed day a week. Add or remove as needed from there.

Tracking--winging it every day--is more or less IIFYM, isn't it?

XmadXscientist's picture

What I have people do who ask me how to gain weight is record what you eat for two weeks without changing your diet. This way they can get an honest idea of what they're eating and how much, I should have clarified that. Not necessarily weighing and recording every minute detail. When I did this for myself I found out I was under eating and some of the choices that I thought were healthy foods turned out to be loaded with sodium and fats. This helped to gain a better understanding of the makeup of various foods. I don't like the whole IIFYM thing because I obtain a very different look getting my "macros" from pizza compared to good whole foods I prepare myself. After people have tracked their habits for a couple weeks I tell them to do exactly as you said, use the equation to estimate needs and adjust your choices to meet your goal. Occasionally spend a couple days recording what you eat to make sure your still on track.

UnicornAdmin's picture

Right on I got what you're saying... to completely simplify it for someone who dosent have you helpig them writing up a plan and to help them out though.

If someone said "how to I loose 10lbs of this winter weight?" lol I would say stop what youre doing eat chicken and rice every course throughout the day for a month, once they have that baseline set they can adjust it from there after seeing how they respond.

chicken and rice every meal is overkill yes but you get my point.. if that person didnt lose that 10 pounds I'd say fuck you, you didnt eat chicken and rice like I said.

helloBrooklyn's picture

Why recommend eating a carb heavy meal (rice) every meal to lose weight? Sounds like a better way to gain weight.

XmadXscientist's picture

Good point it is incredibly confusing with all the bulkshit marketing and propaganda the fitness conglomerates put out.

Have you seen this yet?

https://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/weight-loss/the-fas...

UnicornAdmin's picture

LOL! this is the gold I'm talking about, you'd be losing muscle too on this diet. This market is flooded yes, its almost disgusting and some kind of get rich quick type scheme, betting richard simmons has something to do with this.