Suggestions?
It's been about 5 years since I ran a cycle so my memory on what all I possibly need is a little fuzzy. I got up to about 240lbs about a year ago and was sitting at 100% bf. I told myself once I got down to a reasonable size it was time to look at doing a cycle again. I'm down to about 175 and changing up my diet to go back towards clean gains. The cycle I am looking at running is as follows.
Weeks 1-18 SuperTest 675mg/week
Weeks 1-16 Deca 300mg/week
Weeks 1-5 Dbol 50mg/ed
Weeks 15-20 Winny 50mg/ed
Weeks 1-20 HCG 500iu/week
Weeks 1-20 Arimdex 0.5/eod
Weeks 1-25 Liv52/ed
PCT starting week 20
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20
Clomid?
I feel like I have the bulk of my cycle together but the one place I am kinda worried about is what to do with my pct. My last cycle I ran only Nolva for 5 weeks but it was also a 16 week test e only cycle. Should I also run clomid and run the PCT a little longer? IS there anything that any of you can see that I have missed that I should add in this cycle?
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basskiller89Hey brother,
I've never run HCG during my cycle, I use it a couple weeks after my last pin. I never needed Liv52 on cycle from blood work. Clomid I use at 100mg then 50mg with Nolva at 40mg then 20mg
Thank you to everyone that put in actual suggestions. I was looking at adding the deca more so to help with my joints over using it for mass. From what I've read deca helps a lot with joint issues and as I've been getting older I've been having more issues with them. I've tried stretching, starting with extremely low weights, and adding supplements to help with them but I'm still always tight and grinding while doing anything. Since it's been so long since I've done a cycle though I do agree that I should drop it for this one. Looking at maybe doing this for my first one back.
1-16 SuperTest 560mg/week
1-5 Dbol 25mg/ed
6-18 HCG 500iu/week split into 2 pins
1-18 Ai 0.5mg/eod
PCT
Nolva 40/40/40/40/40/40
Clomid 100/100/100/100/50/50
RustyhookerHow bout test only? You claim joint issues so go bigger and tearing them is good?
well obviously no. while steroids make muscles grow quicker and bigger we should all know that they do nothing for tendons. increase reps but only increase weight as if you were off test or risk needing surgery for the tendons. I read that while on deca they help increase the lubrication of joints and nothing I have yet found will do that so I was hoping to give it a try but looks like ill be saving that for a cycle or 2 down the road
bad use of hcg, not dosed or delivered right
bad pct, needless overdoses
ai? .5 of what? adex could crush you like that
hcg is subq, everywhere I've looked says you can run through cycle and that could possibly be better than using at the end. Anastrozol is the ai
Yes it is and you can, however, it must be dosed 3x per week or eod. if unused to hcg you can test at 250 ius x3 per week. But if not responding fully, go 500 ius x3 per week. read my hcg forum, click my profile click forums read the hcg one.
also hcg SHOULD be used for PCT. let test disappear from system, say approx 4 weeks (this depends on ester clearance, use steroid calc for your cycle, see when ester dump goes lower than .5mg a day)... then run HCG until blood level of total test is at or above where you started from naturally (have to test by getting bloods), then switch off hcg and run SERMS. Bloods here also let you know if HCG has increased estro too much, watch prolactin which is caused by estro increases too.
Anastrozole or arimidex (adex)... you may do well or it may crash you. your test dose is not astronomical so that dose of adex might be too high. Just be careful with it man.
your PCT SERMS are also overdosed. no clinical benefit of 40mg nolv over 20mg (read the studies on it). Also clomid overdosed for too long, can cause LH surge which isnt good. If you want to frontload for clinical response, do it with clomid only and on day 1. No clinical benefit at all to frontloading nolv (see studies). only switch off SERMS when LH is at the correct level for you, at or just above where your baseline was (prob mid or upper mid) (have to test by getting bloods).
Thats the only way to truly properly PCT, no matter what other shit you see online. People diverge, but thats where it is at. Costs a few quid for bloods, but saves your HPTA. Simple choice and should be factored into cost of cycle.
thank you so much for the advice. I will take a look at your thread on hcg and will make sure i get my blood checked for the duration of the cycle
PCT starting 2 weeks after last pin and per my first post each 40 is equal to ed that week so 6 week PCT
You need to get your PCT right; it's all screwed up. I wouldn't be running HCG weeks 1-20 it will be confusing your system!
Rustyhookerhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/pct-from-med...
Good info right there..a must read for this guy
Dude.. you're still young bro you don't need all that..and if you're not gonna listen then test only..and your pct is crap by the way..
Why would you want to use all this staff if you had nothing for 5 years, just doesn’t make sense. You would get very good results from test only cycle and won’t need to go that high in dosage. Would recommend to reconsider your decision, you’re doing more damage than any benefit to yourself.
Also weight today was 171 when I stepped on the scale. I'm usually not willing to go all out with honest stats because people on sites like this like to jump asses because they are the ones that know everything and people like me are the dumb asses or at least how it looks reading through posts
No not 100% obviously I was sitting around 35% bf. I'm down to 10-12% now. Never quit working out was just eating everything in sight and struggling through school. First cycle I put on 20-25 pounds
RustyhookerOk so youre 22 and dropped the fat. Theres no magic bro. And what you posted is crazy high
Ok, ....... let the jokes begin.
RustyhookerCrap cycle. 5 years clean.... post pix, see where youre at.
Age: 26
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 185
BF:
175...185....real stats maybe? Pix....