Short blasts and short cruises
Looking for experience from anyone who has done short blasts and cruises back n forth. Most posts on short cycles like 2 weeks on and 2 off or 4 weeks on and 4 off and so forth are geared around supression and getting your natural production back quickly. I’m not concerned with that as I am on TRT. I am concerned with maximizing the sensitivity to the gear and getting off when gains slow and before sides add up and cruising for a short bit and repeating. Rather than blast for 10+ weeks which would require more time off due to cholesterol, hematocrit, etc, I’m looking to be on for less time and off for less time but don’t know the ideal way to do this so looking for experience from others that do this. I’m looking for a sweet spot of on and off time to remain sensitive and use less gear but not sitting around waiting forecer for next cycle.
As I said most of those shorty topics are geared around pct. But i am thinking something along the lines of 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off for long estered gear or 6 weeks on 4 weeks off on short acting. I’m not looking too much at orals because i want this to be a healthy long term thing and not on and off orals constantly. I’d love to hear some feedback on this from others who do this.
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I do not recommend or condone anything here.
But you need to learn, read and research.
Your asking about " s.h.i.c steroid cycles"
Thats your google start word.
Again dont do stupid shit just research and learn.
Its safety first.
Short/ super high intensity cycles. ( abuse )
PcushionLarge and small is regardless of the ester chosen it takes time to build real muscle man. By “real” I mean gains that are not just hormones sending protein synthesis into overdrive. Running short cycles as proposed your going to be removing the hormones right before they start growing maintainable muscle. That said believe it or not the continuous up and down in hormone levels is actually harder on the endocrine system than rollling for 12-16 weeks and then taking equal time off. I understand your on trt but there are other hormones to consider other than test. The human body is highly efficient at adapting to imposed conditions, but jumping on and off so rapidly will make it difficult for the body to adapt. Just how the cookie crumbles man.
Alright... Here is my answer... Unless you have constant blood work and are on a strict blood work cycle with an endo you are being stupid. You cant maintain levels with any consistancy running it this way. Go back to basics! Meaning,,, use the eye glass and research first cycle as this is what I see as your education level with using gear. Sorry for the butthurt, just my humble opinion
Well as you can see from the photo I posted earlier today, I’ve done plenty of traditional cycles. I was interested in the idea and thought I would start a discusion about it to see who has tried it. The discussion never got off the ground though because when people around here see a low number next to your name they assume you are a retard. It’s a shame.
I had read this thread before but it kind of died and nobody came back with their results.
https://www.eroids.com/og/adavanced-cycles-and-taboo-subjects/4-weeker-s...
I’m evidently not the only one talking about these things. But everyone jumps on newcomers around here with equal vigor. The sharks starting circling this thread emediatly looking for anything to nitpick like my username. Again, only because of a low number next to my name. There was nothing wrong with anything I posted.
I’m all for having an interesting discussion. But people need to treat people who don’t post a lot on a case by case basis and not just assume it’s eveyone’s first rhodeo with AAS.
Sorry, but no one is going to take you seriously on a Steroid website of all sites with the username 'Pukestack' - I mean come on, what was running through your mind when you thought of this?
Talking about Blasting and cruising in general never goes down well on here either - let alone doing it in even shorter periods.
So taking these 2 things into account already people are going to assume you are not very intelligent and take the pi** a bit.
RustyhookerAnd everyone here already told you that noone in general forums discusses these things. Catch a clue yet? Or does a mod need to drop thru and give you insight?
Ok. Got it.
Not sure if getting your hormones up and down every 2 weeks would be more beneficial for your body in general. Body always tries to reach a state of homeostasis (balance), this way it becomes rollercoaster, can’t see this any more beneficial than a regular cycles. If that was the case all Pros would be running hormones this way
Thanks. I agree about 2 on and 2 off. I was just using that as an example of a shorty. People would do that in hopes of not having much shut down after two weeks but i would never go that short while on trt. I just brought it up because there isn’t much out there on short blasts and cruises out there but everything has been tried by somebody so was just looking for some feedback from people who have tried it. Maybe someone really likes 5 week blast.. 5 week trt cruise.. repeat.. etc
Each to their own, but I think the standard blast and cruise times are better. Thats simply my opinion.
RustyhookerPost up current pix and your priors with full stats. You have no street cred here yet so noone will answer
Plus 2 years ago similar deal but you still offered nothing in return
PukeStack 2 years ago @Goose24
It's hard to say for sure but i really dont think it was steroid abuse. Prescribed by doc for test in low 200's and upper 100s depending on the test. It was a rough couple years with low t before the script. I have done more cycles since getting on trt than i did before since its so easy with no pct and my natural t is fucked anyway.
Current stats updated. That’s not entirely true. Two years ago I updated my profile pic. And i ran into the same issues I am having right now. The mobil version of this website isn’t very good. It would not upload from my phone and I had to go to a pc and mess with the formating just to upload the pic. It took me awhile if i remember correctly. I have plenty of pics on my phone. It looks like the only place i can upload one on the mobil version is my profile pic. I just tried and it did not work. Any pointers for that and I’d be happy to oblige.
As far as street cred goes.. i just can’t help you there. The part of my life where I posts thousands of times on a forum and jostle up the ladder are over. I just don’t have the desire or time to do that. So you may see me pop in once in a blue moon and ask an interesting question. If you don’t want to answer it because I don’t hang on the forum hunting down 16 year old wanna be juicers and telling them to stay natural then don’t.
-2. You posted this not him..
RustyhookerWell then its simple. I run the adv group section and wont allow you access. Good luck on your quests
I just figured it out. I was going to pics in my profile and could not find where to upload. I found the submit section.
Just curious wtf chooses pukestack as a handle,???
Exactly mate - It's disgusting isn't it.
Its different..
I know this is not bodybuilding but this is still interesting. Equal gains on 100 mgs a week test enanthate in elderly men with 20 weeks straight vs 5 cycles of 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. Makes you wonder what the results would be if they ran the same study with 5 cycles of 4 weeks on with 500 mgs and 4 weeks off with 100 Mgs vs 20 weeks straight of 500 mgs.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01417364
Forget the word sensitivity. It's about binding proteins... possibly FOX0's and likely others too (they create what we call plateau's).
IGF Lr3 does a great job on preventing them working the AR's and co-activating the AR's. (1iu GH periodically to deal with Lr3 repressing endogenous GH production).
Remember where you heard it first ;-)
They dont work. Its the equivalent of eating 5k calories every day for a week than not eating at all the next week. It cancels itself out. Some members here tried that and found it to not work and if anything caused them to have such fluctuating hormones the sides were getting out of control.
The wheel has been invented already.
What's going on with the Awful username?
Can't run long esters with run and gun cycles. This topic might be better suited for the advanced group since run and gun cycles aren't going to be your typical doses of shorts that you would run for a conventional short ester blast.
I think maybe he is interested in pulsing.Cruising on test and periodically doing something else like anavar or anadrol all while stayin”on “ as far as test is concerned,but switching it up in the others.
I would be interested in that discussion and learning more about that.
Careful with this topic brother. Your ratio’s are a little heavy on the blasting side. Those long esters with be just finally clearing out at the end of your 4 weeks off then you’re jumping right back on. Basically permanent cycle. Early grave.
IF one were to look at something like this after already having kissed their hpta goodbye, I’d say a 2 month on two month off with SHORT esters would be an option. Long esters you’d need more like 2 months on 3 months off. But that would be sub optimal since they really should be run at least 12 weeks. Maybe 4 months on 5 months off. And now we’re back to basically proper cycle protocol lol.
I agree if you are adding in Orals or short acting gear in an 8 week cycle but it’s not really as bad if not. They don’t kick in for 4 weeks then you are on for 4 weeks at a decent dose. Then off four weeks. Sure it tapers down but then the first few weeks of jumping back on the long acting gear you are waiting for it to build up again. So it’s a lot more “off” time than it looks like compared to say a full 8 week cycle that kicks in from day one. That was my thinking on 8 weeks on and 4 weeks off.
8 weeks on and 4 weeks off for long estered gear or 6 weeks on 4 weeks off on short acting
Too short , long esters 12-16 weeks , short acting gear 8-12 weeks, thats the way how it works great for me.
I'd prefer a "normal" cycle and then a PCT or TRT.
2 ON / 2 OFF makes defo no sense for me, besides you have no constant hormone values then...fluctuations every 2 weeks are defo not healty or good for your body!
Yea what he said x 2 : )
Amen, there’s a reason people do it the way they do.