sarm pct protocol?!
Has anyone ran sarms during pct? Im gonna be experimenting with ostarine and gw in my next pct and would like to here anyone's protocol who has experience. Theres no solid protocols out there. Im not sure if I should start it the last few weeks of cycle and end it a week or two before pct ends, or if I should wait to start the sarms a week or two into pct and run it past because im hearing it done both ways. Im a little nervous about trying something new and I wanna figure out the best possible protocol to keep gains, but still fully recovering is most important to me.
Some say there's no surpression with sarms, others say there is surpression. This is my understanding of it from what I've read and im gonna try to explain it as simple as possible. If im off on my understanding id love to be corrected so im not going off wrong information :-) Surpression with any sarm is dose dependant. The higher the dose the higher the surpression. When we end our cycle our natty test is in the gutter and we can become extremely catabolic. Using ostarine at lower doses, 10-15mg, will help aleve the catabolic affects and put us in a more anabolic state. There is still slight surpression at lower doses, but were still able to recover, the recovery process is just slower and will take a little longer. A normal 4 week pct should be extended to about 6 weeks. So instead of just being thrown in a harsh catabolic state to fend for ourselves, ostarine will slowly help wien us back into recovery.
Ive also read from the side that believes there is surpression that a minor pct is needed. So taking the information I know, and believe to be correct, im leaning towards starting the sarms the last weeks of cycle and ending it a week or two before ending pct. Anyone care to chime in? I hope I didn't make this too confusing, im not good at gather bits and pieces of information from different sources relaying it in my own words, plus im still kinda confused on everything. Thanks
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Hitman187Ok thanks. Thats probably what im gonna do, stop at least 7-10 before ending pct. Do you extend pct any longer since you use sarms?
I just posted up some info about SARMS that may help you out.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/recommended-d...
My take on it is that as long as you are not running the SARMS for longer than 4 weeks and keep the dosing reasonable, preferably on the lighter end, you should be OK.
Hitman187Thanks bro im gonna check it out.
I hope you noticed that many forums that push sarms are actually sponsored by the companies that make em. I saw some reviews, comparing Ostarine to Equipose, Primo and so on... I think I even saw a guy comparing LGD-4033 to Tren which is ridiculous...
I saw bloods from people running Osta showing serious suppression... its hard to tell the "magical dose", everybody is different, so you have to find it out yourself. Honestly I don't think its worth it... especially if it hinders the ability for you to recover...
If you have money to spend, run it between cycles, but definitely not in PCT...
Hitman187Oh yea I've noticed how some of them other forums get down, there a joke. There in it for there own personal gains to make money, which is fine, but not at the expense of peoples health. Not cool at all. Thats some scumbag shit.
Hitman187Thanks for sharing your experiences. Did you stop sarms before ending pct or did you run it longer?
Humpapumps way makes sense but im curious to know how he ended it as well (stopping sarms or pct first) because I read sarms need a minor pct. The way you ran it makes sense also and that's more how im leaning towards running it now, starting two weeks before cycle ends and stopping a week or so before pct ends.....
AnonI've run ostarine at 15mg/day for the last 4 weeks of my cycle and the 2 weeks before starting PCT. Some people say its suppressive, I can't get a definitive answer but just to be safe its not something I would run in pct. Would just run it up until pct to help maintain what I've gained. I will say it worked pretty well in that regard.
Hitman187That seems like it be the best time to first experiment with them, unfortunately im on short esters so I wont have that gap before starting pct.... I also read sarms are a waste on cycle ( again who really knows) because they work through similar pathways as aas and attach to same receptors. Makes senses kinda like the low test/high tren therory. They both fight for the same receptors and tren being stronger so I will win everytime and over power the test. So running test higher all that extra test is just waste that's left to float around and convert to estro. So if your running test its attached to your receptors, add ostarine and it dont have anywhere to attach.....iunno that's just me trying to make sense of what I read about them being a waste on cycle. Ill have to try it myself to know for sure. Like you said everyone's different.
It is suppressive, but that is highly dose dependent. I believe under a certain dose (I'm not sure of the exact number) it has been shown not to suppress natural production, but over it the shutdown is significant. I do believe it also differs for ostarine and andarine.
AnonYeah I think I read anything over 25mg can be suppressive. I've only run ostarine, probably wouldn't run it again. IGF seems to be a better choice for me in pct.
Hitman187Yea surpression is supposedly dose and cycle length dependant..... ive ran Several igf's and havent been impressed in the least little bit. Im curious to know which igf you ran.
AnonSure man hit me up.
Everyone does it different. I start ostarine 2 or 3 weeks into pct to let recovery begin just in case there is going to be slight supression. I only go to 15 mg ed held my gains and made workouts enjoyable. Felt like a champ and recovered no problems.
Hitman187So you ran the sarms longer/past pct? Or did you extend your pct longer so you could recover from sarms?
that other site we talked about before might actually know what they're talking about when it comes to this kind of stuff since they push it so hard.
Hitman187True and I agree.... if you find the rite person who's trust worthy. I dont trust alot of there guys I asked one a simple question and I got a crock of shit response that was completely off topic. If you wanna kno pm me and ill explain.