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Review my Cycle: input appreciated

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Hello all

Looking for a critique. First cycle. Had to abort my last 2 weeks in a couple of years ago due to another medical issue.

I am a small guy (10% body fat and in good shape) weigh 70kg, 30years old. Trained for over 10 years.

Test e: 500/week x 12 weeks, 250 on Mon and Wed.

Test p: (wk1-4) 100 EOD first 4 weeks. Then (wks13-15) last three weeks 100, 75 and 50 EOD.

Aromasin
On hand. Only run it at 6.25mg ED/EoD when and if I start getting any itchiness in nipples etc. Increase dose/frequency to 12.5 or decrease depending on symptoms. If running it, drop aromasin along with last week of test p pins.

HCG
On hand if testicular shrinkage. Otherwise run it at 250 x 2/week for weeks 11-15. This would overlap two weeks on test e and two weeks over the test p taper (so not on the last week of test p at 50eod). Last shot HCG 5-7 days prior to PCT.

PCT - wks 16-19. Starting three days after my last test p pin.
Clomid and Nolva
100 ED 20 ED
100 ED 20 ED
50 ED 10 ED
50 ED 10 ED

Questions:

1.I am a smaller guy so should i lower doses based on my weight?
2. Opinions on the test p front load and taper...too much hassle for first time?
3. Any other modifications on the AI front in terms of safety? Should Aromasin be run over the PCT?
4. Does all the timing seem right? Particularly, the HCG? The start of PCT 3 days post last test p pin?

Thanks in advance.

irongame427's picture

Youre way way way to small to be using steroids. Like mack said you need a base of muscle before you use them. Youre 154lbs and you've been training for 10 years. So you basically havent gained anything in 10 years. You will not gain anything with steroids, they dont just spontanousy make muscle, good diet and training to. Steroids just dictate how much of that weight you add is muscle but without a good diet and training program you will not gain an ounce more then the water weight you gain. get up to 180lbs (81kg) and then consider using steroids but you dont need them at all right now. When you have very little muscle you can gain it at a very quick rate almost steroid like rate without all the side effects. Send me a friend request and a message and ill get you on a good diet and put 25lbs on you faster then you could imagine.

IrishMack's picture

OK heres the thing, since your a small guy thos is what you can expect from this cycle, water. Because of your mass you will gain size but will be bloat. You have to have muscle to gain muscle. Hook yourself up with a good diet and pack on about 15 pounds of muscle then re evaluate a cycle.

McMeanie87's picture

For quite a few things you need to change on there bro, and that's even if your ready to cycle..I agree fully with pin cushion, diet and training will get you a lot of size and strength without the use of aas.

johnkerr's picture

Thanks!

Can you provide any recommendation on what to change -up?

Appreciate the input and acknowledge your agreement with pin cushion. It's definitely sound advice given my apparent stats and weight.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

First off what was the medical issue, and secondly I know you don't want to hear this, but you need to reevaluate your diet and training before taking steroids. You can still add some mass natty.

johnkerr's picture

Hi, thanks for replying.

The medical issue was virally induced myo-pericarditis.

I'm definitely open to hearing your second point! I do consider myself well-informed and well read and so expected this advice. The long and short of it is, I am small framed guy. People are often shocked to hear how little i weigh from looking at me with just shorts on (for example). I'm also no stranger to eating properly, i've increased my lean weight quite a bit over ten years. So i completely take your advice but perhaps i should have provided more context.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Head on over to THE DIET CLINIC lay you're current diet out and they'll get you on a plan to add mass. Get some meat on your body first. You can take all the roids you want, but if you don't have a diet to match it won't mean shit.

johnkerr's picture

Thanks - I'll definitely reconsider.

I haven't purchased anything so I'm not obliged to start using.

Anyway, if even for interests sake, what's your thoughts on the above layout?

PIN_CUSHION's picture

HAHA, I see what you did there. Not bad, a couple things I would change, I'll leave it at that.