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Ideas on how to run next cycle,

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Hey guys, looking for some ideas from experienced and or knowledgeable gym rats on how to run this cycle. Any and all help is much appreciated. So I'm 6,1 233, age 35, been back in the gym about a year and half after a 4 year lazy spell, gained alot of fat during that time. Finnaly woke up got back in finished my last cycle in June of just cyip and deca just to get a base and help that muscle memory. Was 248lbs before cycle, as I said now 233 but my tits turned to a chest again, gut went down from a 40 waist to a 36, traps are at attention, really transformed nice but still got alot of work to do. In a few weeks ready to start getting serious. So here's my gear any ideas and advice are very much welcome and appreciated. Sust 250 1bottle, d-bol oral (10mg tablets 130 count looking to max out at just 40mg a day), Deca 1bottle, premobolin 2 bottel, Trenbolone Acetate 2 bottles , Anavar orals (5mg tablets 220 count looking to max at 60mgs a day. And pct Clomid, Nova, Hcg.
So as you can see got alot thrown in here, but not alot of it, 6 weeks of each basicly. So I got my plan just wanna see what you guys are thinking as well. Again thanks in advance for any time and thoughts on this!! Looking forward to hearing what you guys got for me!!

tonytulo's picture

Here we go again smfh

Joe2324's picture

Noone claimed to be some expert here. If i as wouldn't be asking for anyone's opinions nore would I give a f%_k. So like i said never did this, always either bulked or cut, only wanted to do one cycle this year so wanted to combine. Best cutter cycle I ever did was dbol, tren, primo winny. Best mass cycle was sust, deca, anavar, dbol. So wanted to find a way to put togther. That's all!! So if it all off why don't you tell me what's off and what your thoughts are?? Again none said im some pro or expert, far from it. I always had my boy who I worked out with everyday, who was very experienced in this pick out what I needed and help plan my cycles. He's overseas for 4 months so this is what ya get when just reading the internet about each one and trying to match em up. So again I'll ask , obviously everyone thinks to much to run at once, How would you run the's then?? And what dosages. Also gearhead, when someone writes a post asking a question, it's not a demand and it's not like u have to write back. So writing u don't got time wo.wade thru the BS?? Don't write anything at all then

Dickkhead's picture

EDIT: I was going to read you the riot act before I saw your response to my post below. So, I won't "yell" at you. LOL Smile Smile

Joe2324's picture

Abundantly!! Didn't know we take our we sites so seriously. I googled steriod forums, this came.up I posted with questions. Sorry to have offended gearhead and his eriods.

Dickkhead's picture

Sorry to have offended gearhead and his eriods

My eroids??? Yeah, well, I guess you found out somehow that I was trying to buy the place. They wouldn't sell at any price seemingly. So, I'm still reduced to being a regular member. Sucks really. But "offended?" Nah, I'm not offended. If I were offended, you would know it bro. LMFAO

Dickkhead's picture

In a few weeks ready to start getting serious.

Bro, being "serious" has nothing to do with steroid use. Since you can't bulk and cut on the same cycle, decide which one you want to do. Bulk? or Cut?

Cutting doesn't require much in the way of drugs. That said, since your focus is on using drugs, that means you wanna bulk.

Since drugs are the focus here and we have now concluded that to use drugs means you are gonna bulk we are talking about a bulk cycle.

The standard bulk stack is Test, Deca, dbol. Since you don't have any dbol "in stock" we're limited to Test and Deca.

That said, we have a problem though. You don't have enough Test and Deca to do a cycle.

So, I'm really not sure we can help with your steroid shortage being what it is. LOL

Joe2324's picture

Now that's an appreciated reponce. Thank you. Ok makes sence. Reason I was thinking of putting this togther is as I said I got fat these last 5 years and I just did the sanded bulk cycle and lot a ton of fat turned into muscle. So with that in mind didn't want to do a whole mass.cycle for 20 30lbs, wanted like another 15 lBS and keep loosing fat. You experienced guys say u can't cut and bulk the same time, then I'll agree cause I know how that really can't be done without drugs, I just figured that drugs enhance so much would be possable. Also I'm not getting from this site so evething here I can get more of. So if my goal was to add 15 lbs and still keep losing fat what would you recomend? Like I said in the past I really responded well to tren aceate so would like to surround with that.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, prob is you can't pack on 15 lbs. of lean tissue and expect to drop fat at the same time. Please read the following which is a good summary:

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/spinning-your-wheels

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, you CANNOT bulk and cut on the same cycle. It's not possible. Period.

Dacky's picture

This guy sounds like that Millsjr77 fella with the pro body builder friend/cousin who subsequently claimed he got hacked. He writes in the same way. I really wonder. Damn funny this BS though. The cycle he desribes below is beyond belief.

Joe2324's picture

Can asure u this isn't that guy. And again Noone mentioned anything about being a pro.

Dickkhead's picture

The cycle is not beyond belief. It shows a complete lack of knowledge and almost no real experience with anabolics. I just can't wade through this kind of bullshit when it's over the top like this.

Dacky's picture

I hear you. Well beyond belief to the extent that it makes less than zero sense so why propose it at all. I'm with you though. Too over the top to even start somewhere sensible. Good luck to the OP.

Joe2324's picture

Ok understandable, so as I mentioned thru out my 20's prob ran 5 or 6 cycles, can't remember the the exact specifics but I can say I have done a little of it all. Always would run a test injection with a oral test, from sust, cyipinante, premobolin, tren and even suspension which I hated it did not last long. Would stack with dbol always, had a good reaction with that combo for mass, add a little deca, EQ, anavar and then to cut always loved premobolin, tren, clem and winnys. But at age 30 I ran cyip 500mg a week, deca 500mg a week, dbol 50mg daily and anavar 60mg daily, all for 12 weeks became a beast. Was gonna run a cut next but I had a baby and my attention and time was spent else where for the last 6 years. Then as I mentioned finnaly got back in the gym last april was sick of looking at what a let myself become. So this june a just ran a simple cycle of Sust 250 of 500mg week and deca 500mg a week. Didn't do much on weight but flipped all that fat to muscle, shrunk my waist line got rid of my man boobs and look like im in some shape. So as I mentioned also want to try and get back to what I looked like in my 20's. Iam well aware those days just aren't gonna happen just cause I'm older and just don't have the time as I did then to spend just on myself. But I can still get close. So with what gear I mentioned I was planning on running the sust 250 at 500mgs deca, 500mgs, dbol start at 20mg week 1, 30mg week 2, 40mg week 3 & 4 and premobolin 300 mg week. Week 5&6 add the Premo to 600mg week, tren 500mg a with a shot everyother day, and anavar 40mgs. Week 7, sust, deca, are done, so now dbol as my strong test at 40mgs, premo, tren, anavar thru week 10. Weeks 11&12 premo,tren,anavar. 10 days after last shot hcg for 10 days then hit my serm(clomid and nova) for 5 weeks.
So that's my plan. I would always like to have some type of heavier test company running with tren. So I might push the dbol back starting a week later so that way only 1 week with out it mixed with tren. Premo is great, love it, but I just don't think it's strong enough for the tren alone. Goal here is to put on maybe 10-15 more of muscle and still keep melting this layer of blubber off. But considering getting older now would like to stick to 1 cycle. I'm very aware that I'm trying to mix a start of a mass cycle and ending more with a cutting cycle. Never did this and wanted to get a little creative since I don't want 8-10 weeks just mass building, then 14 weeks off, then cut cycle then maintain. So I came up with this. Tried seeing online if anyone did this combo and time frame before but haven't found it. So here I am! So thoughts???
So again thanks for the time and advice.

Makwa's picture

So with what gear I mentioned I was planning on running the sust 250 at 500mgs deca, 500mgs, dbol start at 20mg week 1, 30mg week 2, 40mg week 3 & 4 and premobolin 300 mg week. Week 5&6 add the Premo to 600mg week, tren 500mg a with a shot everyother day, and anavar 40mgs. Week 7, sust, deca, are done, so now dbol as my strong test at 40mgs, premo, tren, anavar thru week 10. Weeks 11&12 premo,tren,anavar.

C'mon man. This is more than f'd up. I haven't seen a proposed cycle more messed up than this in a long time. You've got my head spinning here. Sust, deca, dbol, primo, tren, anavar....you've got everything thrown in here except the kitchen sink.

Makwa's picture

So I got my plan just wanna see what you guys are thinking as well.

Let's hear what your plan is first

flacidego's picture

Great job on getting active and doing the damn thing again my man. That's commendable. How many cycles have you run? Can you lay your first one and your last 2 cycles out for us? Let us get a better idea of what we're working with here. You also say you have a plan and want to see what we guys think, so lay that out for us as well if you don't mind.

Compounds used, dosages used, length of time, and PCT.

Joe2324's picture

Thanks bro! Appreciate this! I just posted my plan to cycle let me know what you thinking. I know it's differnt then the usual but thats what I'm looking for. Only want to run one 12 week cycle and try for mass and cutting with that time period.

flacidego's picture

Too many compounds with too many fluctuations listed above. Dosages aren't good either. If you want my honest opinion I think you should minimize to maximize your cycle and focus on diet along with the work you're putting in. What you've proposed is a cluster fuck, no offense. Cutting and bulking in the same cycle is counterproductive. Choose one. I'd get back to basics and run a 12 week test e cycle focusing more on diet and training.

Makwa's picture

Only want to run one 12 week cycle and try for mass and cutting with that time period.

Not another famous bulk and cut cycle :(

Catalyst's picture

Fella nobody is going to start building you a cycle out of a list of your available compounds. You'd be better off posting what you're thinking of doing and asking for feedback that way. You'll need to give done idea if BF or a self pic so people have done idea what condition you're in.

Joe2324's picture

I hear ya bro, I know this is a little different plan the the norm. Just want to just one 12 week cycle and try to get the best of both world mass and cutting in those 12 weeks. But I didn't want to say my plan for that reason. Trying to get creative and wanted to see what u guys could come up with from a total different perspective. But not a problem at all. I listed above take a look and let me know.

Catalyst's picture

Honestly?

It's a mess and makes no sense. I'm all for being creative, but......