Dead set on starting my first cycle
I used to work out religiously everyday and got satisfied with where I was at and stopped going. At the time I had been going to the gym for at least 2 years minimum 4 days a week, but usually it was 5 or 6 days a week. About 2 weeks ago I told myself I needed to get back into the gym and make it apart of my lifestyle again. I've been working out everyday since then and really wanted a good kick start . The profile pic i have was taken this morning so that's where I'm at. I was thinking about just doing test e by itself. Any suggestions on how much i should take for how long? Should I add something to it? My main goal is not to bulk up, I wouldn't mind if I gained 15 or 20 pounds but I really just wanted to see some strength gains and faster recovery time.
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Well my bad everybody, obviously i was going about it the wrong way. Guess I'll hit it naturally for a while and I'll post my progress in a few months.
Very cool. I truly hope you're not just saying this. (Not that I think you are). These fellas know what they're talking about and are only looking out for your best interest.
And it has already been said, but totally stick around, boss. The guys over in the diet & nutrition section are phenomenal with helping to reach your goals naturally. If you use this forum right, you have access to a fucking encyclopedia on how to make great gains naturally. Just read all u can, stick with it and the rest will follow.
+1 for actually heeding the advise you were given. Good luck.
PS. If you're ever feeling squirrelly again, read this before you go any further so you can understand what can be the possible outcome of even your first or second "safe" cycle...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/helpadvicequestions-abo...
Thanks dfromphilly. I was pretty stoked about starting a cycle but now I know I'm not ready. Plus i don't know shit about the cycle I wanted to do, which is primo and eq, but I have been looking up info, and I just realized how expensive the primo is. At 600mg a week, I'd have to spend over 800 bucks for a 16 week supply from our top rated online source. Haha I don't have that kinda money just to spend on gear right now. So I'll be saving for that. Btw I can't click on the link you have me.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/helpadvicequestions-abo...
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Might as well give this a read so u know what to research before you use AAS. If you intend on using when it's more appropriate for you, if you want to do it safely (which you obviously should) you should be able to answer all of these questions:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/answer-these-que...
Yea I can only answer maybe half of those questions. That's good to know. I'll print them up and start working on it.
you also got to research compounds and cycles more. Starting off with Primo and EQ isn't necessary (especially the expense) and you made no mention of a testosterone. Read up and gain knowledge. Knowledge is always power
I've heard that your first cycle is your best, and I kinda want to make it my last. Haha some people laugh when I say that but really I only wanted to do one cycle. And I want strength results that I no will stick around. So far, from what ive read, primo to me has been the safest one you can take with the fewest side effects. Ive also read in a forum that you should be able to keep like 90% if your strength gains which was really intriguing to me, plus I saw some youtube video about a guy saying that primo and eq together is like a dream cycle. However, down the rode when I'm ready I think I might just do primo and test. And hell yea it is expensive. The best deal I've found so far is a 10 pack of 10ml vials 100mg/ml for 600 bucks, the brand name is Dragon pharma too.
dawg I aint even gone talk to you when you bring that source talk non sense. read the rules brohammer
Your talking about the youtube video I posted? A video about some guy reviewing and giving his personal opinion on steroids? Which is exactly what we are here to do.
Testrogen_PropC...Thing is once you run one and see the results you got, then you lose them all or most of it, its damn near impossible to not want to run a second cycle. At that point it just snowballs and next thing you know you're on TRT and doing 6 blasts a year.
After you run one cycle, you will no longer have the "I just want to run one cycle" mentality lol
Another one that is going to keep fishing for a cosigner
Did you not read the top post on here that I put up 2 days ago saying I now plan on doing it naturally for a while? No I guess you didn't
I was fishing for a cosigner but I'm not now. I'm just reading about different types of steroids and figuring out what I want to do in the future. Thanks tho bro
So primo isn't known for giving you quality keepable gains? I don't plan on losing any of it, I plan on doing the best pct possible and keeping everything I put on. Check out this video and tell me what you think. https://youtu.be/ATYYFHZi1tg
Dude don't listen to anything that dude says. Everything he says is in the interest of selling something. Whether it be for him or a company that sponsors him. He doesn't give a shit about you or he wouldn't give half the detrimental advice he gives. And my last PCT was perfect and I still lost half and wasn't fully recovered 3.5 months later. And it was only my second cycle. It can happen anytime. And the more compounds u use the more likely it is to happen. The moral of the story is there are no gaurentees
I was under the impression that primo was some sort of golden steroid, with few cons and a lot of pros including quality gains you can keep with the right pct. I also figured that it's so expensive because of that. And I fully understood that the gains are slow.
It's expensive because it's an expensive compound to make and is often faked. its almost always going to be not worth the money for what you need it for, though. your physique already needs to be advanced to get the benefits that the difference it will make will be noticeable, and typically not worth the money unless you have some specific show coming up that a small change in ur physique will make the difference. In your case or mine it's just an expensive compound that isn't worth it for what we'd get out of it. But honestly we should save anymore gear talk for the future when it's more appropriate. let's figure out how to get u naturally maxed or close to it.
You lost half?? What were you taking?
Test only. I lost about half because I didn't recover. And I did a "safe" test only cycle with a perfect PCT. Training and diet close to flawless too. The point is it can happen to anyone on even the first or second go around. It's important that u know the possible outcomes. Even while playing it "safe".
PS. Dylan gemelli is a scumbucket
That's really good to know man. I appreciate the heads up cuz I've watched a lot of Dylan's videos thinking I'm getting solid info. He even made it seem like your for sure going to keep your gains in test, so yea. Guess I won't be taking advice from him anymore. Thanks for all the help Philly
Let me guess, you're definitely gonna keep all ur gains in PCT, all u have to do is take like 4-5 different products that he happens to provide a link to, you know, to help you out cuz he cares... not because he gets paid everytime he sends someone to that link to buy shit. Lol.
You absolutely can keep most (not all, some is just nitrogen/glucose/water retention) of what u get on your first cycle, but 3 things have to happen first. 1 you need a solid base before you start (e.g. Close to maxing out your natural potential). 2 you keep eating enough and keep training during PCT. 3 you run a good successful PCT and you recover. The only thing is, number 3 isn't always guaranteed. All you can do is run a proper PCT and hope for the best, but it's possible after any cycle that you won't recover. Its admittedly rare to not recover after just one test only cycle ran for a responsible amount of time, but it is definitely possible. And as was already mentioned both in the link I sent you to read and said here in this thread, your first cycle should never be anything other than test only. Otherwise if something goes wrong how will u know what compound is causing it since you don't know how you react to any of them? And that's only one of the reasons.
But like we said, you have plenty of time to research and learn before you start since you have AT LEAST a year or 2 of natural gains to make before a cycle will be truly beneficial to you anyways. That diet section on this site and the guys there will help u get there, and u can always PM me if u need any help or have questions. If I'm not qualified to give u the best answers I can at least point u in the right direction.
And watch the attitude with some of the guys on this thread. They're only trying to help. It may be tough love sometimes but it's still in your best interest and because they don't want u to fuck yourself up.
Testrogen_PropC...What? I didn't say a word about primo bud lol. But I will give you a hint, slow/gradual gains are most keepable as your body has time to adapt to it and accept it as the norm. Putting on a shit ton of size in a short amount of time is not sustainable once the medium that caused it is removed from the equasion.
Thank you for telling me something I already know. Primo, eq and test are all I've been talking about. What do you think I was aiming for?
Boooooooooooom............. +3
Thanks man
he meant me broseph -1
Good shit. Keep it on the back burner tho u got a whole life ahead of you and right now all the info u need is in the nutrition section. I'm routing for you boss
+1 for taking the good advice given and not throwing a pissy fit like alot of the new people seem to do these day eroids is a very good community lots of good info here and people to help achieve your goals natural
thats what I like to see, someone taking some advice +1! stick around for trianing and nutrition advice. there are a bunch of guys on here to help with natural things.
Testrogen_PropC...That's the best route to take for sure. Keep your diet on point and kill it in the gym.
There's this false idea out there that steroids take the average Joe to Mr Olympia but that's not how it works. Gotta have a good solid natural base and consistency in training and diet to take advantage of steroids which are really just the icing on the cake, not what makes or breaks a physique.
Smh what's going on with new guys on eriods lately
blessed87I went with a sixer so bring over the jd and crown shoukd be enough
2 week lol
Hey I woke up today and decided I want to drink some booze, what do you think guys? Should I pick up a liter of JD, a fifth of Crown royal and a 30 pack? That should do it.
GnarkillLmfao crown for sure and just a 12 of platinum
All I can think of is... Vanilla Ice stop collaborate and listen. Sorry if this is the wrong place for this?? People want to post stupid stuff I guess I can to???
Prove it!!
The more persistent you are lifting, eating and resting, the stronger you will get.
Here's some lifting regimens you can google...work outs could be chest/biceps, then legs, then rest, then back, then rest, then legs, then delts and tris...alternating days of the week...you have to rest so max days working out would be 5, cardio could be 20 minutes on the bike or a brisk walk, prior to beginning lifting.
Hit the compound lifts...alternate heavy and light days...dead lifts, squats, flat bench press, do tbar rows, weighted pull ups, weighted pull ups, dumbbell concentration curls, curl bar bicep curls, forearms, calf press, bent over rows, incline dumbbell press, flat bench dumbell flys, skull crushers, triceps pull down, dumbell pullover, dumbell.shoulder press, side lateral raises, dumbbell raises, seated triceps press, ham curls, knee extensions, stiff leg dead lifts, hexbar deadlift,
RustyhookerBack to the basics. Boom
GnarkillThis kinda made me feel lazy lol +1 brother
:).. pit falls and barricades....easily understandable without a coach, or someone to push and teach....people get trapped...same thing goes for nutritional cal/mac plans...so glad this place exists because without Eroids, I believe our direction for progress would be skewed...
OP can query each of these lifting regimens and get an idea on how and what to do.
exactly........ eroids is a great motivator for those that want to take advantage of what we offer here, no matter what level we are we all need direction at some stage.
Yep...no matter what level..that's what brings us all together...
Testrogen_PropC...For anybody unaware- https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/testprimoequipoise
Look bud, you told us you've been training for a week and you're 152 lbs. You have no base for steroids to even work with. If you took 3 grams of gear right now you would look like somebody that's been lifting for 6 months at best, then youd lose it all through inconsistency and tanked natty test levels post cycle. You need to train hard naturally for a good long while and get and keep your diet on point.
We aren't here to tell you what you want to hear, were here to tell you what you need to hear.
RustyhookerGood catch!
Testrogen_PropC...Thank you bro! Sometimes I catch things.....mostly just STD's, but sometimes i catch other things too. Lol
(That was a joke BTW)
GnarkillLmfao that shit is funny
RustyhookerLil shot of antibiotics and no hookers for 2 weeks.
Lol
you need you focus on diet, consistency and gaining weight natural. many guys on here train like total beast for 5 or more years straight before even considering steroids.
taking 2 years off and waking up one day and deciding to run a cycle and get back into the gym simultaneously is a terrible idea.
you're very underweight and clearly lack a long standing history of dedication and consistency. running a cycle won't get you much more than eating a training natural can get you. don't put stress on your body and risk health problems, especially for something that can be obtained through natural means
Sorry, but no one here is going to cosign you running a cycle. If they do their head will get squashed. Take the advice from your last post and roll with it. You can't get any better advice than that.
Do you think anything will change from your last post? We gave you the best advice we could for your frame and experience...WAIT. if you dont like the advice then do what you want and fail. We will not assist you fail as we are here to help people succeed.
You weren't supposed to notice that it was the same guy.