+ 1 8 weeks Turinabol Cycle, is this safe?
Hi Everyone, going to embark on a steroid cycle in about 6 months when i've reached the 3 years of training mark. I've been shopping around online sites, occasionally using their Tip forms to find the best steroid pack suited for me.
I keep getting back Turinabol as an 8 week cycle. I've read that 6 weeks is the recommended length of cycle due to liver toxicity, so why are some online shops pushing 8 week cycles? is this even safe for someone thats never taken steroids before? and is Turinabol even the right steroid to use anyway?
appreciate any advice on my first cycle, going to use the time wisely to pick the right route, its strikes me that Tbol isnt even a reccomended starter steroid, so i'm unsure of using it anyway, and more inclined to go with test E first, but again still learning and more than open to help and own experiences.
thanks
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I don't recall seeing any online shops, as you put it pushing 8 week cycles. Either way, I'm sure if you have done as much reading as you say surely a test E/C only cycle would be the way to go....cycle length?
Would you need an AI to take along side with this? Do you know what an AI is?
There are many products that can bring you performance. For a novice with years of training clean, a small quantity of a PED can produce big effects. For example, most people will certainly tell you that Testosterone undecanoate pills are useless, but in fact for someone who has trained hard for years clean, this small boost of Testosterone can produce huge improvements. Do not let misleading advertising guide your choice. I believe the best way to start is probably to use products which will helps your body enhance what it can produces naturally, and not to add it exogenously with injections. I think the capabilities of PCT products are underestimated and knowing them all and how they works with your body is important. Also remember that orals steroids are not good for your health. There's a yin and yang, always ; a liver in a good health is essential. Start small in safety and climb the stairs slowly. I up vote you, because someone down vote you. Good luck !
RustyhookerSo....GOODIE! You promote a very weak magic pill. Does it make you feel good?
I don't promote, I am sharing my experience. Very weak for what ? I am sorry but T Undecanoate pills are not weak, I have used them when I was more of an endurance guy, cycling, running ... than a weight lifter. These pills are easy to put in a pocket and use at any time, in the cycling world we use to call it, easter eggs. Endurance sports can make your natural test levels go very low, so a little boost like this, when you body has been trained for years to resist to this low level condition, can provide a huge boost in performance. Obviously you won't become hulk, a bodybuilder, a powerlifter using these ... What I just want to demonstrate here, is that 1. It's better to train first clean for years to get the most benefits of a PED and 2. You don't need to start with the BIG things to get good benefits.
I don't see why I should feel good or not ? I am just sharing my own experience, and I am not an example, just someone like others.
Alphamale500Since you've never done any steroids before and I don't know much about you, I'm not advising you to use turinabol or any steroids, and I suggest that you do a lot more research before even considering using steroids! With that being said, I would like to make some general comments.
To begin with, testosterone should always be the base of any stack, including while using turinabol. Using turinabol without testosterone will shut down your natural testosterone production and possibly lead to problems such as sexual dysfunction, among others, including long-term issues with testosterone production.
IMO turinabol is a great oral to use in a stack, and is known to have some of the mildest side effects, however it can have some negative effects on your lipid profile, like cholesterol values. It actually works very good in either a bulking or cutting cycle, and really helps the other steroids in the stack to work synergistically with each other to maximize the effects of each steroid. Any oral steroid should be limited to a 4-6 week max to limit any negative impact on the liver.
Also, a popular choice by many men for a first cycle is testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate by themselves. My honest advice to you is to continue learning and doing research before using any steroids. You're a young man.
Turinabol isnt worth shit in my opinion
Tbol as a muscle builder, meh. Hardener, meh. Strength, meh. Only good thing about it is its SHBG lowering properties but you are better off running provi then.
FortySIXand2what about endurance for runners or athletes?
Don't know. I am a bodybuilder.
For sure. Ive never noticed any physical or strength changes from tbol and proviron is cheaper
Alphamale500I certainly agree with you Makwa, about t-bols ability to lower SHBG and free up testosterone, and while the t-bol binds to SHBG, it let's the other compounds in the stack do their job to their fullest effects. By itself with just test, it doesn't do much. But when used with 2 or 3 other compounds, you really get the most out of each compound with modest doses.
That's been my experience anyway. I'd have to say that I've had more success with turinabol in a cutting stack than in a bulking stack.
Booooooooooooom....................... +3
Who the fuck negged this comment ????
i can soon find out though then shit will hit the fan.
Rob i just hit you +3 because i agree with your comment.
Appreciate the back up.... must of offended someone
He's been dealt with...
Note to everyone:
I would suggest you save your downvotes for people who post incorrect, dangerous, and abusive comments. and NOT because they have an opinion different from yours. What do you think eroids is? Congress?
If you disagree with a post, put your view forward, thereby opening a discussion on the matter. Don't be a pussy and "neg-and-run".
I even said, “in my opinion.”
first I don't recommend the OP to cycle reading her post, I see she needs to do more research.
Saying that let me say this Iv'e noticed TBOL getting a lot of flack recently, now I cant speak for anyone else experience . My experience with TBOL has been to say the least decent, I have ran it twice in the past both times making good lean maintainable gains, nothing spectacular mind you its not Anadrol. But with proper diet , and being sure your getting decent TBOL, you can make 5-6lbs of gains in around 8 weeks. Now thats not spectacular , but base it with test and your looking at a very good cycle. A good cycle if your looking for slow but dry maintainable gains. Its a slow compound, but it does build muscle.
Why would it strike you that tbol isn't recommended? Little bit of reading here and you will understand why running an oral only cycle is a waste of time unless you are a female. 2 steps forward and 3 steps back trying to run oral only cycle.
i've only been on this forum for about 5 hours, everything i've read thus far has been google sites
Tool is a bad choice as a main substance. You would be better off with an injectable like Test as a base and if you're experienced you could add an oral later.
PcushionTestosterone should the base of all cycles. There is a thread called steroids for beginners Or something like that. It’s got a lot of valuable information for beginners who are starting off. There just a little deeper to make sure you understand exactly what it is you’re doing because it’s highly unusual that anyone who knew anything about anything or something like that. It’s got a lot of valuable information for beginners who were starting off. You need to dig just a little deeper to make sure you understand exactly what it is you’re doing because it’s highly unusual that anyone who has any solid experience with gear would not recommend a T-bol only cycle. Use the search bar in here also it will shuttle you in the direction of all kinds of good information. Happy Pinning
25/15%BF/188lbs
i'm running jonnie canditos strength/control, i've ran this routine for over a year now and made great gains, but the last 4 months i've been stuck in a plateau that i simply can't break out of even trying other routines like 5/3/1. My idea was to maintain strength now and trim down for summer, then hop on during my next bulking cycle in june/july time.
my current lifting stats are B:275 S:400 D:475
my diet has been pretty strict for the last year too, whole foods, barely eat anything processed, lots of protein, complex carbs, haven't had a beer in 6 months!!! chicken/beef/eggs/salmon/potatoes/pasta/brown rice/green veg is basically the consistent parts of every meal i eat, and milk is my main drink of choice these days, usually full fat.
my goals now are just to pack on more size and increase my lifts further, i've never prioritised one over the other because i've seen them coincide doing the LP, with strength came better musculature, so being in this plateau i'm not really getting anywhere :(
You do need to prioritize. Do you want to get bigger quicker or do you want to get stronger quicker. Two totally different types of training. Train like a powerlifter and you will get stronger quicker but not as big. Train for hypertrophy and you will get bigger faster but not as strong. Sure as you get bigger with hypertrophy training you will get a little stronger but you won't get strong as quickly compared to if you were training for strength and vice versa.. Can't have the best of both worlds unfortunately, so train appropriately for your goal.
A year is way to long to stay on the same routine. Mix it up. The muscles adapt pretty quick.
Anything over 6 wks for me is too long.
i've spent 3 months doing 5/3/1 but getting nowhere, so switched back to candito's just because i really enjoy it anyway, and i can adapt it easily to my upcoming cutting cycle, i hope to get to 11-12% hopefully.
At 25 you could ride the natural train a little longer. Post up your diet and routine and what you are aiming at and I’m sure a lot of good advice will come your way. Listen to what these guys say. A lot of the vets here have been doing this longer than you’ve been alive.
Post stats, age, diet... AN ORAL ONLY CYCLE IS A NO GO. You must have a test as a base (usually a 12 week cycle at 500mg a week), if this is your first cycle I recommend doing a test only (to see how your body responds to it). And also must follow up
With a proper PCT protocol!!
Also guy to be honest 3 years of training isn’t shit, you are not ready for AAS. It’s not magic bro, and you won’t benefit from it.
Hope this doesn’t go over your head...