Need help with E2 control
Hey everyone first off I just want to thank this entire community for all the helpful info and criticism you have all given me. Anyways I started a cycle of test e 250 at 500mg injecting twice a week been on for just over 5 weeks.
Also started HGH 4ui every night and just bumped it up to 5ui been on it for a little over 2 weeks on the hgh.
Started Equipoise at 300mg a week to help increase appetite but stopped it after the second week(will explain more on that later).
After about the first week on cycle I started taking aromasin 12.5mg EOD as a precaution as I'm very estrogen sensitive and it was really helping to keep me from breaking out in pimples on my chest and back as I always do on cycle. After about the second week I started taking my aromasin at 6.25mg ed instead of 12.5mg EOD. I think I may have crashed my E2 as I got some of the worst anxiety I've ever had, my entire body was sore and achy my joints hurt really bad and my moods were terrible. I decided to stop the aromasin about a week ago and instantly broke out in pimples all over my chest.
I also stopped the Equipoise as this was my first time ever introducing it into a cycle and after further research I found out EQ can cause anxiety in people who are already anxiety prone as myself lol so I quit the EQ altogether.
So I went and got blood work done today should have results back Thursday and will post them. I have a couple of questions was a week a long enough time to be off the aromasin before I took my blood test?
I know Test E is a long ester and really only needs to be pinned once or twice a week but about a week ago I started pinning it EOD instead with 27g 1/2" slin pins in my delts and I feel a whole lot better all around than when I was pinning it twice a week with 25g 1" into my glutes. Could be just my E2 levels building back up is why I feel so much better but I think I'm gonna stick to EOD pins with slin pins for the rest of my cycle as my moods feel great now and I feel my blood levels will stay much more stable.
I'll definitely need some advice and criticism when I get my blood results back so that I can get my aromasin dialled in. Thanks in advance to all of you!!! All criticism welcome!
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Ok sorry Greg still learning how this site works so many rules to keep up with!!!
My blood results should be here any day.
I didn't realize it could take up to 10 days to get my results back. I just got a call from the lab I ordered from they say I should have the results very soon.
I will then post them up for more criticism and insight from all you knowledgeable members thanks to all even the ones who help me on the correct way to paragraph my posts.
PcushionMy experience is to use the bare minimal AI possible. Not sure why you went from 12.5 eod to 6.25 daily. I have a little present for you though.
https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/1999/20753LBL.PDF
This will tell you everything you need to know about Aromasin. I dose mine at 25mg twice a week. I run 400 mg test.
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Thanks so much brother for the amazing reply and super helpful Info!!! I need guys like you who are willing to help a foolish newbie like myself right now thank you for helping rather than bashing on me.
The reason I went from 12.5 EOD to 6.25 ED was because I thought maybe it would help my blood levels stay a little more stable but apparently it was way too much for me to be taking!
Alphamale500Like Makwa said below, you sound really inexperienced! This is something you should've gotten dialed in during your "very first cycle". Look, you can pile up all the steroids and hgh you want, but if you don't know how to use them correctly and safely, all you're gonna do is end up hurting yourself.
RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH!!
BLOODWORK, BLOODWORK, BLOODWORK!!
Thank you very much for your input! Like I've already stated I am very inexperienced at this and have ran a few very foolish cycles in the past. This time I want to get things dialled in like I should have my first cycle but foolish as I have been I can't change that now I can only get advice and criticism at this point. Blood work is on its way and will post it as soon as it arrives.
Alphamale500You can also use the search bar and look up whatever it is you wanna know. You can't expect people to just spoon feed you all the information you want. You need to do your research. And forums aren't the best place to do your research. And I believe you can even look up topics on where you should do your research! Only you with your bloodwork can get your best AI dose dialed in correctly.
Thanks man not looking to be spoon fed just looking for some advice from people with experience when I get my bloobwork back that's all. I thought that's what these forums were for but I guess not. If anyone at any time wants me to delete this whole topic I will and just post the blood work when I get it back lol
What ai dose have you used for your other cycles? You sound really inexperienced for having already ran multiple cycles. This is kindergarten stuff you figure out with first cycle. My bet is this is your first cycle and you jumped into the deep end of the pool without learning how to swim first.
Alphamale500And I'd bet you're correct Makwa! Sounds right on point anyhow!
Yes I am very new to all this I have ran a couple other cycles foolishly but with pct I recovered just fine. It's been about a year since my last cycle I ran aromasin at 12.5mg EOD on that cycle but felt my estrogen was still too high and my dumbass never got my E2 checked last cycle so I'm trying to get it all figured out this time around and do it right. I appreciate all the help but bashing me and making me feel worse than I already do about it isn't gonna help my case just need straight clear answers and advice thanks to all who are willing to help. Yes I am still new and learning that's why I'm here!!! And every one can bash on how my post was constructed like I said not the best at writing post as you all can see.
Ok, we all can guess here whether you crashed it or not by taking aromatise inhibitor however the only truly way to find out is blood work and well done for doing it. Once you have numbers on the paper then you can adjust dosage accordingly.
In regards to EQ, it’s quite a long acting compound and you should have not experienced anything from it on the second week of taking EQ.
I would do the full hormone test, not just estradiol, to see where you are, maybe your test was bunk and you took all that aromasin on the top, consequences are obvious.
Thanks brother yeah my blood test should definitely show me where I'm at and how to dial it in at this point. I did do a full hormone panel to check where everything else is at too should have it back tomorrow. I trust the source I got my Test E from so I'm definitely not doubting it's real.
Cool, keep us updated once blood work is back then we can have a look and identify the problem
Thanks so much for all your help brother and I appreciate your one of the only gentlemens on here not bashing on me!!! I get that I've been foolish running my cycles in the past but now I'm just trying to get help for doing it the right way and this is the only way I can possibly do so is by asking people here. Nobody I know in person knows a thing to give me real knowledgeable advice. Thanks so much!!!
I'm not sure you crashed E2. The only way to know for sure is bloods. BTW; it's always best to start hgh 4 weeks or so before cycle. The results are much better that way!
You didnt crash your e2. You got side effects from taking too much aromasin which means you were taking a ugl dose not pharma. Dont be surprised if your bloods come back in range for e2 levels and if its lower then you didn't need it to begin with. Trust bloods not what you think you know.
You crashed it. For me a sign of low or crashed estrogen is massive anxiety heart palpitations and big fat zits on my back and chest as well when in check I have no bacne. Like said below get bloods done
Or just maybe its a sign that he is getting side effects from the aromasin because what he described is the well known side effects. If taking 6.25 of aromasin every day "crashes" your e2 than I'm roger rabbit.
Its just not possible. Period.
From my personal experience 6.25 aro is a fuck ton that's why I said get bloods cause everyone is different. I would like to make a gentleman's bet if he's willing to keep what he's doing and run a panel
I definitely can't continue the aromasin until my labwork comes back should be here Thursday and then I can get even more input on my particular situation lol thank you so much for your input!
Considering the average dose is 25mg a day 6.25 is nothing. I made a post about aromasin and attached real scientific studies that proved crashing your e2 using aromasin is extremely difficult to do. Males not even on cycle were taking 25mg a day for 3 months and their e2 levels were right at the low normal levels.
Ask pickle how he takes his aromasin, every day at 12.5mg and his e2 is normal.
Funny you mention that. My E2 feels all out of whack right now. The EQ i was running before is out of my system (mild AI properties), i switched brands of test to one that seems considerably stronger, and i switched brands of Aro. All at the same time. Not getting the usual emotional high E symptoms, joints feel good, actually down on water weight a bit, but the nips are unbelievably swollen and tender. Running caber too (started tren). Im going to up my caber for 2 weeks and see if that helps, if not then im going to up my aro to 37.5 ED. If that doesnt work im switching to adex for the remainder of this blast. Just when i had it perfectly balanced it decides to shit on me lol. I can do another round of bloods in about 2 weeks so will know more then, but since im running tren I need to get the sensitive E2 test which costs almost 3x as much, yay. Anyways, thats what im dealing with right now.
Your aro I might be bunk. Is it actual pharma or url? You did say you switched aro too.
Alright instead of playing the guessing game over the next few weeks im just going to get BW done. Full workup orderd and paid for, will have bloods drawn first thing monday morning. Going to be a little upset if it turns out this aro is bunk and i get mantits because of it. Im running Raloxifine and even that isnt helping.
Good idea. Get those bloods because you already stated you were loving life until you switched.
It’s ugl, check out my recent pics. It’s a top brand which makes me think it’s not bunk but who knows
Im getting mine dialed in but to keep gyno from flaring on 120mg eod of prop i need around 18mg a day.
Well to me that sounds crazy but hey who knows I only know what works for my body and what I've read. This is making me interested I'll look up your post and read it for sure. What's the benefit of taking it if your not running anything
Sounds like you crashed it to me.. everyone is going to tell you what you should do and that's get bloods done and calm down with the ai
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Thank you for editing my post and making it much easier for other eroider members to understand I'm still learning. I really do appreciate it! I'll take all the bashing and criticism and help I can get I just wanna learn how to control my estrogen. Yes I should have done this my first few cycles but at least I'm attempting to do it now.
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