+ 3 AI question
Good day yall. I have a question about AI but before I get to that question I will try to bring you up to date on my Journey to date.
I joined group 1 year ago and quickly realized that many noobs get flamed hard for asking dumb questions that can easily be answered using search bar. I have spent this whole year finding answers for myself. My first post I laid out my plan and asked for input but only after I felt confident in my research and gaining the knowledge I needed to run my first cycle. A member pmd me and told me my plan looked great BUT according to my stats I was a fat fook who needed to get in better condition before I even think about running a cycle. I took it to heart and lost 50 pounds this last year getting BF down to 14% as of January 11 2019.
So here we are 21 days later. I am running Test E at 500mg a week split up between 2 injections on Tuesdays and Fridays. I feel great and I think the test is just starting to kick in because libido is up, strength is up and overall well being is up. Here is where my question starts. Everything I read says to have AI on hand but also that it should be incorporated into cycle as if it is mandatory part of the cycle. I have not taken any AI yet and only wanted to start if and when I experienced any sides. This is where my ignorance lies. Should I take them before sides show and are sides a for sure thing? I have 0 signs of sides at the moment and would love to keep it that way or at least under control to the best of my ability. I will be getting bloods done again in 2 weeks.
Thank you for any response in advance and if a flaming is in order thats fine, I am a big boy and will only use the flame as a learning exp.
Thx again fellas.
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basskiller89Bro I usually keep an AI on hand
Getting bloods is obviously recommended but an easy way for me to tell that my estrogen isn’t getting high is by constantly checking blood pressure at the same time every day and watching weight fluctuations on the scale. remember that just because you’re not getting gyno doesn’t mean you’re in the clear.
jayiskif you find yourself watching the t.v. and you start crying over watching a lion tracking down and eating its prey..,i would say your estrogen is on the high side...lol
if you find yourself jumping up and down and cheering over that.., cut back on the tren.
Alphamale500Haha.Lol! That's funny bro, nicely said!
Lol. I actually don’t get any of that from high e2, I feel great. Low e2 gives me the WORST anxiety
PcushionLol that’s so funny but so fucking true.
Just had bloods done last week e2 wasn’t crazy high doc said I should be fine he was more upset about my free test being 300
No I’m on trt I get 1000 iu hcg weekly 240mg test and adex 3x weekly but when I run gear and bump up my test I feel it so I up my ai or try and blast it this has been happening off and on for a year plus but each time the ai seems to cause more discomfort
Alphamale500Your trt doctor gives you 240mg of test per week??
Question I have Letrozole and Aromasin from ugl but Adex from doc and all seem to do this when I feel a slight flare of gyno I take something then it becomes more painful and harder anyone had this experience or know what I might be doing wrong
Alphamale500So you're only taking an AI when you have a gyno flare up? And you listed 3 different AI's, which are you using? I don't understand what your AI's dosing protocol is, but it certainly doesn't seem right. You must have bloodwork done when you're using gear. And if you were doing that you can keep up with your e2 levels and dial in a correct dosage for your AI.
You seem like you need to do a lot more research, and I'm not gonna spoon feed you. Just do the necessary research before using gear, and always have bloodwork done frequently!
Respect on the weight loss and doing your own research. You seem like you are doing great.
These guys below got you I just wanted to say congratulations on getting it together and kicking ass.
Good luck and good gains brother
Thank you to all. Will get bloods done then and go from there. I do really appreciate everyone comments/advice. And Makwa thx for the link. Not sure how I missed that one, I live in the search bar on this site.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-cycle-when...
Congrats on the weight loss
Some people take 1g test with no aromatisation or DHT issues
Some, like me, cannot really go above 300mg without growing boobies
Bill G got you.
4 week bloods will show where estro is sitting. You will be close to steady state then and will be in a good position to decide if/how to manage the inevitable move in estrogen levels.
I agree with what Ace said, I’ve done several cycles in my life and I’ve never ever had to take an AI, with that being said I don’t do crazy big cycles either, the harshest cycle I’ve ever taken was a test,tren and mast cycle for 8 weeks I did 150 mg every other day, I don’t get all the tren sides that everyone talks about. Everybody is diffent on how they react to compounds. Like Bill G said bloods are the only REAL way to know for sure. But I think the problem we have here sometimes is a lot of parroting. Sure it’s just a base for most people to go off of but not always the right answer for everyone. As soon as I started to feel something isn’t right then I’d personally start an AI then. That’s my two cents not that it matters lol.
Bloods are the only way you will tell. Symptoms can lie to you. Gett blood work
I would take an appropriate dose of AI's before getting symptoms. After a couple of weeks on an AI get bloods drawn. I think at 500 mgs Test you will run high E2 eventually if you don't take the Ai. So, better safe than sorry!
Ace VenturaThat’s a great accomplishment, dude. Good for you for taking the advice, being patient enough to wait, and dedicated enough to put in the work.
I’m no doctor like some of these motherfuckers, but I’d wait til I experienced side effects (when I say “I” I mean this is what I would do. Not necessarily giving advice) especially if I were getting bloods drawn in a couple weeks.
If you choose that route, I’d recommend taking AI the second you feel a little sensitivity in the titty nipples. Don’t wait until you’re “positive” it’s from the test, and before you know it, you got big ol lumps on your chest. Then once you get bloods drawn, you can make further assessments.
Another option would just be to start with a minimal AIdose right now, and again, assess further with the results of your blood draw
Solid advice, mate
Thank you for the insight. This is pretty much where my thought process is so your opinion is a little confident boost in trusting myself. With that being said this is all new to me so having other opinions is a good thing. Greatly appreciated!