posted Tue, 12/27/2016 - 02:43
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+ 3 WHAT STEROID WILL YOU NEVER USE AGAIN?
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what's yours and why?
Was were the sides that made up your mind to never run that particular roid again?
Mine would be any form of tren..I go freaking nuts on tren..violent dreams..super aggressive..insomnia..anxiety attacks.
i know tren is a supreme game changer I just cant deal..I have a few buddy's that live on tren..and there sides are really not that bad?
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nitetricks73Trenbolone for me. It just won't click for me. I couldn't take not being able to sleep.
For me, it is DHB(1-T CYP). i have usd 2 brand DHB, both are Horrible Horrible PIP! I can't walk for 2wks after shot. it probably a great gear, but i won't use again.
For me, probably dbol. I get good results on it, but I hate how it makes me feel mentally. I attribute it to its estrogenic effects. Guess I would make a terrible female. LOL
I gave dbol another go but had to lay off after 2 weeks... I started bitching and getting mad at everything. Even at 1mg of Adex mon/wen/fri....
nitetricks73Love DBOL , made me feel great.
CibaDon't forget the loss of appetite which was terrible for me since I'm already a difficult eater...
Same exact scenario here but after the second week I start to get depressed, over nothing. Definitely isn't the compound for me lol
Eq. Started my cycle and dick was a limp noodle. Stopped the Eq and I was all good. Googled eq and Sex drive and saw so many testimonies about how eq killed their sex drive. So for me , never again.
CibaYou probably tanked your estrogen, since eq has ai effects. I was on test only with so so libido retaining water, added eq dropped water and my libido went through the roof. Used EQ for a while and got joint pain from low e2.
X2. I’d bet a lot of money that EQ didn’t give him dick problems, crashed e2 did. I know for a fact it was the case with me cuz I get bloodwork done all the time
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/equipoise-eq-...
I’m about to start my third cycle. I have some tren but I think I’ll save it for a year. Does it stay good that long?
Yes as long as you're storing it properly. Even if the "expiration date" has passed.
Thank you. This is what the source said but I needed a second opinion before I inject it a year for so from now.
under what temprature is the best to store vials? for a long period
Room temperature roughly between 68 F and 75 F
Is it still unopened - what's the expiry?
Hey hombres great thread real helpful in what NOT to try, but so I just got shafted by my source telling me Winny is out of stock, so now I have over hundred bucks in cred , looking for a substitute for it to use at the end of my cycle to shred a bit, any recommendations? Last resort might be Var but I think it’s expensive for its lower-moderate results. -Thanks
PcushionYou need to post your cycle as previously mentioned can’t get an answer without a proper question. I will say I have never understood people trying to cut at the end of a bulking cycle. It’s too much to fast and I believe stressful on the body. I am always clean bulking these days. Always in the pursuit of size, but also keeping my bf as low as I find reasonable. Keep in mind by me choosing this path I am not going to get as big as a guy who chooses to bulk for a span and then cut for a span but I also don’t have the headache either. Without your cycle plan, diet, main goal I really can’t recommend anything else other than changing your diet at the tail end of the cycle (which does work great in my experience. I want to give you some food for thought though. Your 25 and 190 not sure of bodyfat but at 190 pounds if your concern is shredding a bit I would reevaluate my eating habits. When I was 190 I might not have been stage ready but a cutting agent wasn’t anything I even considered. Shredding down was nothing other than swapping my diet. Worry more on diet and less on gear. You can put all the modifications you want into a car but without gas you still have nothing. Happy Pinning my brother.
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Ya wanna have a watch of that video I posted up buddy - there are some great tips in there about effective bulking such as going for 10 minute walks after meals etc to keep digestion levels high and contant so you can get more food in throught the day ..
PcushionI absolutely do man. I am all about gaining knowledge. I saw where you posted it and was stuck at work. I didn’t have a chance to watch it. I guess my thing is I am addicted to the lean full look. I guess it would be different if I was 195-205 pounds but I am a solid 230 first thing in the morning and I just don’t want to see my abs and obliques disappear to see the scale show 245. Everyone is diffferent though. I am actually about to watch that video as soon as I get out the shower.
RustyhookerWinnie is crap compared to anavar. Neither is a big mass producer. Might research then post your proposed cycle.
Anavar is my favourite!
Love it when I read people using 80-100 mg a day and they train properly......... it's complete bullshit.
40 mg of real and correctly dosed var will be unbearable at best when trining
I remember the proper stuff giving me nose bleeds on real dosage.
Never had nose bleeds but I have felt like I've had an elephant stood on my head at times lol
RustyhookerBingo! I tried to hit 75 with the 25mg tabs and couldnt. Was just too strong when its real. I was also really suprised how my strength shoots up on var as well.
Definitely bro......on 30 mg of a certain lab 2 years ago. Back pumps and forearm pumps were brutal.
Var is very underrated Rusty......amazing strength gains but another thing I've noticed people shotting about the forums is it's a "weak and less toxic "oral.
Another parroted load of bull shit.
RustyhookerThe anabolic rating alone imo makes it a perfect choice on calorie defecit or tail end for added last minute gains. Before it got popular the prices were a lil better too. Haha
Yes sir I'd pick anavar over any oral for me personally I just respond very well to it ;)
Its too drying and cramping also ...
RustyhookerWhen i was young, i loved it. Id finish solid and strong. But as an old dude even 15mg split x 3 and my joints are dry and hurt. Stops the heavy lifts and reps in high range too.
I did try a bro on here advice and it seemed to balance it out. Npp while cutting and joints were happy and the winny didnt cause pain. I might try that again soon. To see if it was placebo or effective
Oh yes, sometimes when I am pressing it can end up feeling like someone is firing a nail gun through my front shoulders at the same time! Thats when I've called it a day on the stuff, shame as it is effective for power.
I think you'll still find after a week or two it will be painfull, I've tried that method before and run NPP higher than normal to counteract it and the winny still got the better of it. Worst is when you are in the shower after training and your forarms and hands start cramping up when washing your hair, and you are having to push your fingers back on the wall to relax the muscle back in again Lol
RustyhookerOne time on a tren stack i did a side job helping a buddy on his lil car. All the small screws, ties etc had my hands pumped to where veins popped out all the way down my fingers. Couldnt close my hands, painful pumps. It kinda looked cool veiny but was freaky at same time.
Alphamale500For me, I would have to say Anadrol. The worst side effects I've ever experienced were when I was taking Anadrol. I developed such bad acne all over my chest, shoulders and back! Taking a shower was so painful because of the water hitting the huge pimples, that I would have to adjust the setting on the shower head to make the water come out as soft as possible. I still have bad scars to this day. And, I'll never use Anadrol again just because of all the sides that are attributed to it. The way I see it, is there are so many other options of different steroids to use, why use one that is really known well because of it's side effects.
But also, I really want to stop using orals anymore in genaral, except for maybe some Anavar for 4 weeks at a time max. And, that is after I finish some
Turanabol that's currently part of my cycle. But after these t-bols, that's it! Like I said, maybe just some Anavar for the last 4 weeks of a cycle, but besides that no more toxic orals.
I figure that since I'm getting older with more and more gear under my belt, I should at least minimize any exceptionally toxic steroids that I can, therefore minimizing any unnecessary side effects.
Tren also for me... altough my name has an "A" in the end of it, (miswrite it) i´m a guy, so i really felt tha lack of libid when i got my Tren.. but you´re totally right, it´s really a game changer in gains quality, but i´m just like you, just can´t deal with with.. either type, fast or slow tren
Tren...in any form. Tried both Ace and E and just can't justify needing or really wanting to run either ever again.
Never tried superdrol or Anadrol and probably wont, same with halo. Just too harsh for me.
NPP made me feel like shit physically and mentally. Tren makes me feel like a god
Very interesting. It's the exact opposite for me. NPP puts me on top of the world and Tren makes me very lethargic and cloudy headed.
Anadrol for me. Only used it once and swear I could have started breast feeding...never experienced that side effect with any other AAS. Needless to say never touching it again. Lol
Gotta be tren, although it will be difficult.
Any sort of very toxic oral is out of the question for me (halo, superdrol, m1t, methyl tren)
PcushionSuperdol
I ran it at 20 mg a day for four weeks. Bloodwork showed it completely trashed my lipid values, raised liver enzymes through the roof despite all my best efforts to combat it. All things considered I still think the worst side effect was the lower back pains some refer to as “back pumps”. I couldn’t even walk through the grocery store without my back killing me. This was back when you could buy it online with your jug of protein.
jayiski agree with you with Superdrol. Plus it made me lethargic and feel like shit. I would have to eat Taurine like candy to try to keep the back pumps away. That shit is horrible its one step below a cramp.
i would do a set then have to lay across a bench and wait to do another set. couldn't even lean over the sink in the gyms bathroom without feeling ridiculous lower back pain.
didnt do bloods back then but by how bad i felt everyday on SD i know the blood work had to be way off.
yeah i also got it online when it was legal for 10 to 20 dollars a bottle. gave my last 2 bottles away. couldnt deal with it.
Not really funny that prohormones are legal..,or like SD banned but ugl.., and young kids would run these prohormones that had 3 or 4 very toxic and strong compounds in them. but on the label they threw in a little milk thistle and saw palmetto which was under dosed but made you think it was protecting you...
PcushionYou nailed it on the issue of legality. There was very little information about it for one and kids had no idea that this “dietary supplement” was a steroid, and worse they had no idea what a pct is or where to acquire one. Ahhh the good ole Taurine method. I tried that one too. In the end spent more on Taurine thank the superdrol.
Completely agree on the Superdrol - Feel like complete sh** on it. Lethargic, unmotivated and just awful. However there's no doubt its effective as hell for strength & power gains and quick too. On the times where I've grinded it out for 3/4 days the quick results I've experienced have been phenominal, unfortunately even trying low doses though it still catches up with me.
jayiskit does increase strength but I'd be doing bench and the weights moved nicely through i felt like shit and just wanted to go back to bed.
Its a freaky feeling as you are so strong on it but at the same time feel so tired and shi*, kills any enjoyment in it for me.
jayiskLike being on steroids and being married to the same women for 17 yrs..true story
How do you even want to still talk to the same woman after 17 years of living in the same house together? lol you must have to put on a front somedays...
jayiskWe live in separate bedrooms and don't talk to each other.
Any questions 90% of the time go through text message or she has one of the kids ask me.
I just talk to my kids. Not an e enjoyable situation by any means.
Better than fighting with each other.