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UGL product sterility / handling quality

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Without mentioning any specific UGL, was wondering what the consensus on leading UGLs and their injectables sterility? Though the products may not be pharma grade, does one assume that the conditions and materials of preparation are generally safe and hygienic? Setting aside any obvious contaminations or breached vials, if there any other determining factors?

Thanks gents.

Bill1976's picture

I could take a drop to the lab at my job and put in in the hand held biotrace. I could snap a picture of the results. It’s called a luminometer . It test for even the smallest bacteria. You put a drop on the swab and it tells you what contaminates are in it. They are approved by the FDA. Or you could buy one. They cost about 2,000$ These labs have an interest in making sterile gear. They would go out of business if they sold contaminated stuff. It would be all over eroids if somebody was selling tainted gear. That’s why this site is so good.

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MegaT883's picture

New Underground lab mixing up some Tren A. makes how to DVD

DfromPhilly's picture

I wish there was a way to guarantee sterility. Would save my fiancé from having to pop a pill every night... it would also save me from the eventual snipparoo I’ll be getting in the next year or two.

I shutter thinking about it.

Engineereddisaster's picture

I think it all depends on how clean the bathtub is that the high school kid brewing your gear is using.
You might be better off adding some extra ba to your vial for good measure. Smile

kodiakGRRL's picture

I really want to say something really smart but some of the guys here take things pretty literally so I have to pass .. but I am thinking it ;-)

MegaT883's picture

Isn't that the truth GRRL.lol

kodiakGRRL's picture

I know I'd hear it later in a pm or email "but you said in the forum ......." smh

Engineereddisaster's picture

Smart or smart ass?

kodiakGRRL's picture

aren't they the same thing here?

johnmarshall12's picture

There is no way to tell is a vial is sterile. If it's cloudy toss! Other than that it's always a possibility that something can be contaminated. That's why i won't inject a new vial into Quads! Best to open a vial and inject Glutes...infections are easier to contain there!

sunamcaxa's picture

even pharma grade products can be infected with some bacteria’s, if you don’t see any swimming shit in there then its good I guess

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sunamcaxa's picture

that’s what Im saying bro

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addicted.to.pain's picture

lol yea sunam I gotta say that is horrible advice bro.

sunamcaxa's picture

so what do you want? lab test every vial or what? it’s my opinion not advise its 2 different things

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sunamcaxa's picture

it wasn’t advise it was my opinion

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sunamcaxa's picture

ok I will keep it to myself next time even though nobody’s gonna lab test every vials has or you do test yours?

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sunamcaxa's picture

got it thank you, Im still learning

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addicted.to.pain's picture

Ah bro your looking for a warm and fuzzy feel on using UGL's, there is no such thing. Even pharmaceutical grade hormones are not always what they seem, it is all to easy for labs to fake labels or a large company to out source there aas manufacturing to a sweaty warehouse in India .

You learn over time bro, how to recognize quality. The look of the oil the viscosity, the quality of the vial, the rubber stoppers, how well crimped the cap is , How the oil pulls and injects speaks volumes on the quality, whether the oil pulls when pressure is added to the vial is tell tell of the hermetic quality. The smell of the product and of course "pip" tells the story on how the product was brewed.

You will find ugl's you trust, they are out there labs that take real pride in there work.

IrishMack's picture

Actually a company in Massachusetts did that and they are out of business and owners in prison. They were cutting corners and not checking for contaminants in their test and flu meds. They killed a shit ton of people. New federal rules make any manufacturer of Injectables follow a stringent checklist punishable by massive fines and imprisonment now.

Manshit's picture

That lab actually contaminated eye drops with meningitis on purpose.The employee finally admitted it and got like twenty to life!

addicted.to.pain's picture

good to know dude, it is scary what a company will do just to turn a profit.

IrishMack's picture

You cant see with your eye any contaminants that are microscopic. One of the biggest things besides germs is heavy metals. There was a study showing high levels of heavy metals in the raws. Pharma uses pure raws. If it's not pharma I'm pretty sure the cost of running the raws through a machine to sample the metal saturation out weighs the cost. I'm not saying all ugl don't test for it but don't hold your breath. Worry about metal poisoning too. Yes it is a thing.

Livelife76's picture

That’s what this site is for, you will always run a risk of getting a bad product it’s the black market. This site helps protect you from it by people informing everyone of issues on si page, reviews, etc....

Ain’t nothing guaranteed no matter how big the lab bro, but site helps hold accountable and poor operations get put in the SCAMMER bucket here fairly quick

Kgp's picture

Reviews, discussion, how long they have been around, and price point. Cheap doesn't always mean good.

Livelife76's picture

X2 exactly bro

giardap's picture

They are all great until you see the pics of them being busted in the news!!!!

sunamcaxa's picture

hey man haven’t seen you for long time how you doing

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stairmaster's picture

Especially if you saw youtube videos of these labs how they produce before and then u realize the whole video was a total fake.

giardap's picture

Exactly! Then fast forward to dingy dirty basements and filth!

stairmaster's picture

I don't use ugl bunk cause there are too many labs where u can be sure that their quality is on point.

stairmaster's picture

I know bro but there is a difference between big ugl labs and garage brewers I think, but u're right!

IrishMack's picture

That was a well known source claiming "pharma grade" too. Pharma grade product, bathtub gin brewing.

kodiakGRRL's picture

well .. it says pharma on the label rusty.. jeez

kodiakGRRL's picture

pulls up beach chair and sits

stairmaster's picture

pharma = pharmaceuticals , doesn't mean anything...

kodiakGRRL's picture

yeah I m pretty sure i got that memo ;-)