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+ 8 The Proviron Experiment

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A few years back I was torn about Proviron being suppressive or not. Information on this is very conflicting and it appeared Proviron much like everything else in the hormonal world was not universal. So being as the timing was right I decided to find out and that was how the Proviron experiment began. I was 20 weeks outside my last cycle. I had originally purchased the proviron to help me bridge from cycle through pct. At 20 weeks ran my pre cycle labs everything was normal for my body. I looked everywhere for the lab work I compiled running this experiment but I am afraid it got thrown out in the years since this experiment was run (my wife would be the culprit of this she hates clutter). So I am just going to fill in what you may need to know. I average 1100 nd/dl naturally so I have high testosterone levels and I also do not have a very high aromatization rate estrogen is always on the low end of normal around 15 pg/ml. My labs also had LH and FSH level over the course of the experiment. I have never encountered a problem recovering so outside of pure curiosity I don’t test them often. Nevertheless those were also normal at the beginning of the experiment.
I ran proviron ONLY for 10 weeks just so I would know if it was suppressive or not and this is what I found.
Week 1-2 25mg 12.5 A.M./P.M. I ran labs. Everything was virtually the same. FSH normal, LH a tiny bit lower but still in ballpark of original, total test slightly lower but same ballpark, but free test a notable bit higher at 10%, estrogen was the same.
Week 3-4 50 mg total split AM/PM Labs
FSH down by about 15%, LH down by 20%, total test down respective 25%, free test back at baseline, estrogen lower by 40%
Week 5-6 75 mg total split three times a day Labs FSH down 50% LH lower by 60% total test down 60%, free test lower by 50% estrogen nearly undetectable.
Week 7-8 100mg total split A.M./P.M. Labs
FSH down 80%, LH, total test, free test all pretty much nonexistent. All three registered on the test with estrogen being the lowest of them all, but based off the numbers I was clinically shut down.
Week 9-10 25mg split 12.5mg AM/PM Week 10 labs
FSH, LH, Total Test, free test, estrogen were all up but none showed an increase more than 10%.
I concluded that it’s dose dependent on how suppressive it is but nevertheless suppressive. It appears that at a dose of 25mg it could help with moods and sex drive during PCT but I believe it would draw out the time one needs to run PCT and perhaps how aggressive the PCT. I base this on the fact that while my labs showed the 25mg dose didnt have a huge effect on an already active HPG, the presence of the same 25 mg dose on a shut down HPG didn’t do much along the lines of rehabilitation. Still this experiment is primitive. Not nearly enough time and not enough variable control for it to be definitive. This is not meant to condone or deter the use of Proviron. This is solely me sharing my experience.

ashop's picture

I would never use it during PCT. Its still an anabolic steroid that will have a negative impact on recovering your natural HPTA. During the cycle or even on TRT is when you will really see it shine.

jtomey77's picture

I'm interested in how Proviron would be applied during TRT. And for what duration. It seems to exist in a grey area where SHBG modulation, PCT and oral androgen meet. I'm not clear on how one on long term TRT would appy it.

ashop's picture

I've seen its proven effect on SHBG though blood work so I am a believer.
I like 12.5mg daily on TRT.

jtomey77's picture

Great info - Proviron is such a mystery to this end but your results seem pretty clear. This is especially helpful in consideration of long term application.

Any SHBG numbers?

I'd be really interested to see how the values stack on on cycle.

SL's picture

Really great info P, I haven't ran proviron in a while but those benefits are great.. and all the labs you did for this experiment ++ thanks alot bro

dbombs's picture

I did something similar a few years ago. Here was my result: https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/proviron-in-...

Thanks for putting this together pal. It can only help others!

dbombs's picture

I think it would be great if it could. It seems the consideration of using Proviron as a bridge is becoming more common. From what people like us have experienced it definitely seems suppressive and should not be used during PCT or ad a bridge.

Nice work in the EBC by the way!

dbombs's picture

Agreed. Since I conducted this experiment, almost all the feedback I've seen from folks that tested like us concluded proviron is suppressive.

Thanks again for posting this. Very valuable for the community!

dextetherdog's picture

That’s great experiment. How did you feel and looked in the mirror when your Estrogen was your lowest??
And did you body composition change at all?

dextetherdog's picture

Low energy levels could easily be a result of a low estrogen. Thanks for sharing this, very interesting

Makwa's picture

Glad you posted this. Others here have also shown the same thing and this backs up those findings. Unless you are on exogenous test I wouldn't be using provi.

johnmarshall12's picture

Good stuff! TY for posting it. It's interesting for sure. Some guys think Provi is like Candy and not suppressive. This helps clarify the issue. +

Makwa's picture

I would have been curious to see how much of a negative feedback with just the 25mg dose would of had if you stayed on that longer. I have a feeling it would have dropped more if you were on it for 4+ wks compared to just the 2wk window you used that dose.

professer X's picture

Npp is one of the best results producing compounds there is. It makes me feel excellent, improves strenght, recovery, makes evrylift feel smooth as butter, pumps are 24/7 appetite increase more than EQ by far and doesmt effect me sexually. Oh yeah and dont bloat on it like deca.

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Carlos Danger's picture

Yeah it’s cool to see folks trying their own thing and getting their own firsthand experience but yeah this was done a while back. I’m not a huge provi fan anyway. Shit made me bald like no other aas I’ve ever used. Acne like a teenager too

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XmadXscientist's picture

Used it for eight weeks at 25-50mg/day and my HDLs were 10 and liver enzymes were elevated too, both more so than 40mg var for 10 weeks. Didn’t notice any results worth anything, but it was all I was running. Won’t be using that again.

XmadXscientist's picture

Yeah definitely not for growth. I was super lean and wanted to see what effect it had since some rave about it. Nada for me. Not so sure it’s that great for end cycle finisher either, mast seems more superior, I noticed that and so did some chicks.

I have pretty liberal access to primo and will continue sticking with that as my base. Just finished a tattoo that took 4 sessions over the same amount of months and starting the summer run soon with a small amount of something new and maybe exotic that I haven’t tried before, hopefully I don’t overheat this time ;)

professer X's picture

If u live in the south or anywhere it gets blZing hot tren is a no no in the summer! The heat is just too much if u work outside...

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XmadXscientist's picture

Agree 100%