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What do you guys think about this about this. both cycles cutting and bulking
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http://www.evolutionary.org/trenbolone-boldenone-cycles
What do you guys think about this about this. both cycles cutting and bulking
Therealdeal12For people that haven't run those compounds for to run them together will be way to much. More isn't always the answer in this game.
+1 for posting I though it was a very informative article thanks Gnar
Testrogen_PropC...I think both are really versatile compounds but personally I wouldn't want to run both of them together for health reasons. My blood pressure is already high enough on just one of the 2 combined with test let alone all 3 together
My blood pressure is spiking just thinking about running EQ and tren togther!
Have you ran both separately to see what the sides are like individually?
Double trouble.
GnarkillI've never ran eq I was just reading on the Web about it though came across this and wanted to see what the home boys here thought. I don't think I'd run eq if it spikes bp I run a little high in that department and don't want anything that will make it go crazy
RustyhookerI've stacked quite a few chems with eq. I see many problems with what they propose. On paper folks just see POWER. I just see issues. Especially with this new crowd of children here using anything without any base or experience.
First issue I see is bulking. True that for a short burst the tren could add mass. That's what it's created for in CATTLE. Until your appetite is smashed and your sleep is greatly disturbed. It's medically proven that lack of deep sleep hinders all recovery.
Second for me is falling flat. Bulk or cut is run by your foods. Common sense or you might as well wipe your butt with the money you flush. Loss of appetite and the characteristics of tren and your muscle fall flat. Not full and sense. Carbs can help a little bit then thermogenisis kicks in and sleep doesn't happen.
Third is the children who never run bloods. Pump in 2 chems that are notorious for rbc boost and you're lined up for lethargy, agitation, powerful headaches and screaming high blood pressure. Add in improper hydration and you're on a road towards stroke etc. And hydration does NOT mean just drinking a gallon of water a day. I've made a few posts on balance issues.
Anyone know ALDOSTERONE? Doubt it...
Appetite boost of eq....false if you're feeding properly. Add in a chem like tren or for me some of the orals and you won't be anywhere near 6k cals for bulking.
I think there's simpler ways to redesign their ideals. Ester change and timing. Eq isn't kicking til towards week 11. By week 8 tren e already destroyed your appetite and sleep. Short ester switches have been simpler. But again, not for the gimme crowd.
Trends of cut/bulk in same cycle farce is getting old and redundant. You shouldn't think of anything but bulking if you're headed to stage. Sounds stupid? I'm watching guys solid cut 215 drop to 198 light heavies. Frigging monsters!!!! There's no growing up to stage imo. Or at least within reason.
Gym rats.....nothing wrong with being a gym rat. Big bulky and strong. So why throw overkill into the mix when a simple stack adds 10 pounds. It's the food and training that keeps your base.
Sent you a FR, was wondering if I might be able to tap into your aldosterone knowledge?
RustyhookerThe full scope is miles above me. The basics is on dryout it's common to up the water intake to flush salt then low water intake.
During high level intake your body will start dumping water at a high rate. The body senses the water having a rapid drop and aldosterone is produced which then stops the water drop. Two edged sword.
You'll know you're flushing too fast when a head splitter headache hits.
There's many ways with foods or Chems to get the water to drop but again, way above me. Makwa and Viking are constantly on stage and/or training competitors. There's a comp prep group as well to assist with folks ready to compete. My buddy as example starts hitting asparagus, vitamin c, adjust salt intake etc etc
Thanks for the follow up brother.
Excellent post brother............. took me back in time, thats like reading good meaty posts that we used to do daily around here back when we had a real serious crowd at Eroids.
Thanks for reminisce bro...... i enjoyed reading that and could feel the passion as you put finger to keyboard
RustyhookerLet's get this place back to retro roids. Get the meat back in the bones.
I'm impressed +1
RustyhookerAppreciate it sir! Wish I had more time to look at options for each item. We used to post up some really cool medium level cycles.
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spot on info
RustyhookerThanks bro. The OP been here a while and it sparked up some cool interest.
I'll post a medium level cycle in the steroid cycle section...I need to do another one soon, but I have to have mast p, or e, in it.
RustyhookerI do enjoy mast! This new years I'm looking at food cutting then a spring run.
I love how they add the Sarms and N2crap onto those cycles...classic! lol
I'll say it again bulking and cutting are all about diet. You could run either of the cycles for a bulk or cut and get the same results. One or the other isn't better suited for cutting or bulking.
I'm sick of repeating it mak I really am. They don't care about diet. It's all drugs don't you know? I know natural tested guys that would crush our steroid junkies.
It's really terrible there's so many people running gear at my gym with shit physiques and making zero progress. A lot of them picked me out real quick on my first cycle that I just finished and would ask me what I'm running that caused me to gain so much. When I told them 250-300 test and 500 eq every single person told me bullshit and didn't believe me. I would ask them what their diets like and if they know their calorie needs/macros and not a single one had it nailed down. I told everybody that knowing your calorie needs and when to scale them up is one of the most important things and to get 7 hours of quality sleep. No one listens and my one buddy said he wasn't taking enough so he's going to almost double it... smh. There's a lot of teenagers running gear these days too and it's just sad, especially if they're getting it from one one who's been at it awhile. I've noticed very few of the people who sign up here really care to learn about the important stuff and I know it annoys you guys that have been here awhile, but I really learned more from this site in 6 months about training, eating and how to prioritize than I have in the 13 years I've been training from all other sources combined.
im planning on getting back in sharp shape again ..... i have give it some thought what to run and you know what i have ended up settling for?.......... good ole Sustanon/Nandrolone (durabolin)..... and thats it! i dont need a kicker i dont need any fancy shit, i can create what the fuck i choose from those 2 old school common compounds.
Brain is in positive mode, which is important to create ANYTHING!!!....... Kitchen and work ethic will the common denominator to results as always.
No shortcuts, no fucking around, 24/7 positive nitrogen balance and away we fucking go again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you be willing to share your strategy for keeping positive nitrogen balance?
Eat a meal with good some protein every few hours and a slug of casein or some other slow digesting protein before bed.
Thanks bro................ saved me typing
Thanks, I've been reading a lot of your threads and it's been such a goldmine for me.
That's all I usually run. Deca and sust. Maybe an oral.
I'm way out of shape. I need to shit or get off the pot. I have no motivation. I've just been resting alot.
Maybe I'll get motivated from you getting back into it lol
RustyhookerYou're 2 shakes from a massive build and trophies bro. The mental game is the kicker. I feel ya
yep............... headset is the key to it all bro, i had to do my french job it was simply a necessity! it just had to be done during the summer, but ive paid for it with a 12lb weight gain... a bad 12lbs at that!..... i did find a gym to go through the workout basics but i didnt have suze or my guys around me to really bring out the animal............. now i am back home its a whole different ball game, i have the familiar buzz around me again and im back to my set lifestyle which just revolves around Bodybuilding 24/7.
No plans to get ripped , but i just want to get back to "myself" if you know what i mean
RustyhookerCompletely understand that. Thank gawd for muscle memory and your food skills
Have to admit that I did not read the article as I really dislike the site due to their N2bullshit but one of my buddies runs that stack every year for the past 3-4 years and loves it. I've seen him bulking on it as well as cutting. The results were dictated by his diet. In my opinion boldenone is such a versatile drug that it could fit into any stack if the person knows what they are doing. Tren? I'm not a big fan and it is really powerful drug so adding more to it except for test and ancillaries might be a little overkill unless you are really experienced pro who has really pushed it's body to the max. The way I go about this, you either use few compounds that are less toxic and if you want to use the harsher ones just limit the number of drugs in the cocktail. I can only imagine that the above mentioned combo might sky rocket your rbc count so the user really needs to be experienced and monitor bloodwork.
Gnarkill+1 for the solid response bro