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  • Not really enjoying this at all...

  • Lowkii   •   Fri, Jan 12th, '18 16:29   •   37 replies, 323 views

First week complete of pinning done in both glutes. Running Test Cyp @400MG /wk and I've been limping around all week. The left glute has only just recovered from Monday Injection did my right glute yesterday and was limping around all day. The PIP is absolutely horrible. I read about pip but didn't think it would be this bad.... or maybe I'm just p*ssy.

Add-on to the fact I'm petrified about getting an abscess. (I've had one before not AAS related) and it's not pleasant at all had to have it drained, twice. So the paranoia is killing me.

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  • basskiller89's picture
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  • basskiller89
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My first ever test cycle I was crippled for a month from glute injections lol

It gets better as time goes on. Make sure to use a few pin sites brother

I personally find slower injections and flexing the muscle after injection help eliminate pip

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  • Dr.BroScience
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For some, the solvent content of cypionate can be an issue and lead to increased pip

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  • Jayzgainz
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What size pin are you using? Are you getting deep enough? Using a lower gauge needle and injecting too fast? I use a 1 1/2" 25g on my glute. And go very slow.

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I'm using 23g 1.25 for Glutes. Pushing the needle all the way in and doing about 1ml in 60 seconds i would say.

  • JARHEAD2's picture
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Bro, I hope that isn’t the only injection spot you’re using.... if so, you better start hitting some more before it causes you something worse than pain!

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/failure-to-rotate-multiple-spots

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Same gauge I use and you probably take longer to push the oil than I do so as long as your hand is steady I wouldn’t say it was technique. More likely to be virgin muscle or the oil itself as others have said

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Thats a good point about staying steady. Thats like a little sword in your muscle and if your shaking all around just imagine what the tip of that pin is doing in there.

  • herpjunkie111's picture
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First time I pinned my left glute I did that wiggled all around with a 25 in there because I was in a strain and it took so long. I paid for that shit too, that little sword did some damage. Pain lasted a week. Switched to 23's for glutes now, get those done quick before I get unsteady.

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I’ve been there too. Had it hanging out of my glute and not sure if I tensed involuntarily or what but the barrel sort of came out of my hand and flicked a couple of inches to the side and at a different angle. Needless to say sitting down was fun For a few days but it’s just part of the process. Sometimes dodgy jabs happen.

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X2

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X2.

I can tell a difference between using 23's and 25's on quads. After pinning slowly with a 25 I feel nothing at all during or after injection, but with a faster 23 I get a tiny bit of discomfort/pressure during and some short-lived soreness after, so switched to 25's.

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I used a 22 last sat on my right quad and had a bit of soreness for 2 days. Tuesday I did the left with the 25 and was fine. I find going as slow as I can manage is key for me. Im in no hurry anyway.

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Me either, would rather go slow and steady anyway, once it's in its in, no point to rushing at that point, worst is over lol.

25's helped me get past not wanting to pin delts, so now I have 6 active sites. Read about chest and triceps, but haven't manned up on those yet, though I know I eventually need to, really spread it out.

  • 333's picture
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You can really tell the difference between 23 and 25 I've always used 23 might have to pick up some 25 and test it out

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  • herpjunkie111
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I stretch the skin too, really tight, and hold until pin gets past skin/fascia and into muscle, don't really even feel the 25 go in, painless. Takes probably more than twice as long to plunge than a 23, but worth it to have zero after effects.

I do use 23's on glutes though, I do them myself and it's an awkward angle to contort my body, so the speed of the 23 is desirable there, for me, and my glutes seem to be able to handle the punishment. No homo...

  • 333's picture
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Yeah glutes are really awkward for me to I'll get some 25s and give it a run

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  • 333
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Dang someone must not like me for getting pussy negged on this and another post for no reason. oh well couple points isn't worth crying about I have a lot of homies here for advice

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  • herpjunkie111
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I gave you a couple too, you didnt post anything to justify being negged.

I hadn't thought about running the loaded syringe under hot water, good idea, I'm going to try that next time.

  • vhman's picture
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A couple of things. You can’t give karma until you have 50 yourself.

Second, running your syringe under running water is an infection waiting to happen. Heat your vile, but again, not under running water.

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  • herpjunkie111
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So I guess giving thumbs up isn't giving karma, or just doesn't count until I get to 50?

I can see that on running under the tap.

I've wondered before if heating the vial multiple times degrades the product though, given the temp storage recs....

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It depends on how hot and the frequency. Warming it doesn’t do anything. Many folks just use a heating pad or the like. It a hair dryer.

Once you have 50 karma, you can give someone else a karma point. Until then , it’s jsut for looks I suppose.

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I've been using a heating pad, then a point and shoot thermo gun to get the oil to body temperature or slightly above.

Good stuff to know, thanks for the info vhman.

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Prolly fat fingered bro ... here I hit ya homie

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  • Makwa
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Probably a combo of shitty pinning technique and virgin muscle. Your technique should improve and you shouldn't be virgin for too much longer. One thing I also recommend to newbs is not to put all of your eggs in 1 basket. Get a couple different brands of test. Some people have issues with certain carriers and solvents so if one if giving you bouts of pip switch to a different brand and see if that helps. If you are stuck with only 1 brand and it is giving you fits it is going to be a long cycle.

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That’s really good advice. I do best on EO. A lot of guys don’t. It’s really kind of trial and error until you figure it out. When I find a brand I like I buy a lot from that lot.

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  • 333
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Your muscles just not used to it yet also just keep up on cleanliness alcohol wipes always on place you set your vial down on top of vial on injection site and then after injection. I use 4 wipes each time also warm up gear under hot tap water it will thin it up and inject smoother I inject in quads mostly I prop my leg up and relax it as much as possible. Once your muscles get used to injection you won't even feel it anymore. Each week gets easier and easier. But I'm sure you know this already from using the search option and looking up how to reduce pip

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Yes, I read some stuff on pip and reducing it. For my second pin and put the viral in warm water cup for like five minutes, didn't seem to do much because the pip was worse then my first pin without warming viral. Maybe it just wasn't hot enough, or it cool'd down before I could get into the muscle.

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I run my actual syringe under as hot of water the tap will make and inject within a minute or really helps me. Try to not flex your buttcheek while pinning if you have someone that will help you lay down on the bed and have them do it

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Awesome, I do the same

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I'll keep that in mind... I think my second pin was a bit of a mess tho, I think I pinned to low in the glute and had trouble aspirating. Hopefully in time my injection technique will get better.