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  • Lowkii   •   Fri, Jan 12th, '18 16:29   •   43 replies, 844 views

First week complete of pinning done in both glutes. Running Test Cyp @400MG /wk and I've been limping around all week. The left glute has only just recovered from Monday Injection did my right glute yesterday and was limping around all day. The PIP is absolutely horrible. I read about pip but didn't think it would be this bad.... or maybe I'm just p*ssy.

Add-on to the fact I'm petrified about getting an abscess. (I've had one before not AAS related) and it's not pleasant at all had to have it drained, twice. So the paranoia is killing me.

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  • rawmustard's picture
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I didn’t scroll page by page to see if he commented but RustyHooker has some great info on pip issues, he really helped me out ALOT when I was experiencing it and talked to me about it. That’s never fun but I agree with jarhead2 start getting more spots that was my main issue. Once I did that I was good to go. Hopefully by now you are doing okay though!

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My first ever test cycle I was crippled for a month from glute injections lol

It gets better as time goes on. Make sure to use a few pin sites brother

I personally find slower injections and flexing the muscle after injection help eliminate pip

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X2 make sure you go real slow with your injection it should help and like bass said use multiple injection places.

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  • Dr.BroScience
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For some, the solvent content of cypionate can be an issue and lead to increased pip

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What size pin are you using? Are you getting deep enough? Using a lower gauge needle and injecting too fast? I use a 1 1/2" 25g on my glute. And go very slow.

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I'm using 23g 1.25 for Glutes. Pushing the needle all the way in and doing about 1ml in 60 seconds i would say.

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Bro, I hope that isn’t the only injection spot you’re using.... if so, you better start hitting some more before it causes you something worse than pain!

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/failure-to-rotate-multiple-spots

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Same gauge I use and you probably take longer to push the oil than I do so as long as your hand is steady I wouldn’t say it was technique. More likely to be virgin muscle or the oil itself as others have said

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Thats a good point about staying steady. Thats like a little sword in your muscle and if your shaking all around just imagine what the tip of that pin is doing in there.

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First time I pinned my left glute I did that wiggled all around with a 25 in there because I was in a strain and it took so long. I paid for that shit too, that little sword did some damage. Pain lasted a week. Switched to 23's for glutes now, get those done quick before I get unsteady.

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I’ve been there too. Had it hanging out of my glute and not sure if I tensed involuntarily or what but the barrel sort of came out of my hand and flicked a couple of inches to the side and at a different angle. Needless to say sitting down was fun For a few days but it’s just part of the process. Sometimes dodgy jabs happen.

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X2

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X2.

I can tell a difference between using 23's and 25's on quads. After pinning slowly with a 25 I feel nothing at all during or after injection, but with a faster 23 I get a tiny bit of discomfort/pressure during and some short-lived soreness after, so switched to 25's.

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I used a 22 last sat on my right quad and had a bit of soreness for 2 days. Tuesday I did the left with the 25 and was fine. I find going as slow as I can manage is key for me. Im in no hurry anyway.

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Me either, would rather go slow and steady anyway, once it's in its in, no point to rushing at that point, worst is over lol.

25's helped me get past not wanting to pin delts, so now I have 6 active sites. Read about chest and triceps, but haven't manned up on those yet, though I know I eventually need to, really spread it out.

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Best tip i could give ya from experience of pinning new parts( chest, bis, tris ect...) is use a slin pin29g 1ml and start off with no more than .5ml in that muscle to test the waters...some oils ive used dont bother me at all at 1ml in the delts or chest others .5 can leave ya more sore than u might have thaught... i used a cut blend( 225mg short esters) 1ml in each delt and couldn'ttrain delts for 4 or 5 days.....shit hurt decent...lol

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Definitely gonna give the slin pins a go, planning on ordering some 29ga. My body fat stays pretty low, are the 5/8" length typically good enough for tri's and chest? Being pretty lean I use 1" on glutes and quads no problem, works on delts too but I was thinking 5/8" might be sufficient there as well. I bury the needle when I pin.

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Oh yeah...if your pretty leanthe 5/8 should work.The pharmacy up the road from my place sells them and they just ask me long tip or short when i buy em...i guess ths short tip might be like 3/8. I even use slin pins on glutes and quads as well. Definatly gotta bury it! Backloading is a tip thats helpful as well because its takes like 15min trying to draw up 1ml thru a 29g.
Just draw up with your regular 25 or 23 g, pull the back plunger outta the slin pin then load it with the big needle...just when u flip it upright wait for that air bubble to float up to the top before you push the plunger all the way back in. Also there is a way to pin more than 1ml at a time with a slin pin. Do your injection as nor.mal( this method works best on quads) and then when yoour done, leave the needle buried and pull the plunger out. Load with your already drawn up 2nd ml of oil then put thw plunger back in and shoot ml #2.....
2mls, one injection, 29gslin pin painlessness. If you got any questions pm me and ill explain in more detail.

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I'll give it a shot, lol.

Sent you a friend request, I do have some questions/concerns about the +1 ML method.

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You can really tell the difference between 23 and 25 I've always used 23 might have to pick up some 25 and test it out

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  • herpjunkie111
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I stretch the skin too, really tight, and hold until pin gets past skin/fascia and into muscle, don't really even feel the 25 go in, painless. Takes probably more than twice as long to plunge than a 23, but worth it to have zero after effects.

I do use 23's on glutes though, I do them myself and it's an awkward angle to contort my body, so the speed of the 23 is desirable there, for me, and my glutes seem to be able to handle the punishment. No homo...

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Yeah glutes are really awkward for me to I'll get some 25s and give it a run

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  • 333
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Dang someone must not like me for getting pussy negged on this and another post for no reason. oh well couple points isn't worth crying about I have a lot of homies here for advice

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I gave you a couple too, you didnt post anything to justify being negged.

I hadn't thought about running the loaded syringe under hot water, good idea, I'm going to try that next time.

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A couple of things. You can’t give karma until you have 50 yourself.

Second, running your syringe under running water is an infection waiting to happen. Heat your vile, but again, not under running water.

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So I guess giving thumbs up isn't giving karma, or just doesn't count until I get to 50?

I can see that on running under the tap.

I've wondered before if heating the vial multiple times degrades the product though, given the temp storage recs....

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It depends on how hot and the frequency. Warming it doesn’t do anything. Many folks just use a heating pad or the like. It a hair dryer.

Once you have 50 karma, you can give someone else a karma point. Until then , it’s jsut for looks I suppose.

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I've been using a heating pad, then a point and shoot thermo gun to get the oil to body temperature or slightly above.

Good stuff to know, thanks for the info vhman.

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Prolly fat fingered bro ... here I hit ya homie

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  • Makwa
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Probably a combo of shitty pinning technique and virgin muscle. Your technique should improve and you shouldn't be virgin for too much longer. One thing I also recommend to newbs is not to put all of your eggs in 1 basket. Get a couple different brands of test. Some people have issues with certain carriers and solvents so if one if giving you bouts of pip switch to a different brand and see if that helps. If you are stuck with only 1 brand and it is giving you fits it is going to be a long cycle.