I've done quite a few test / tren cycles. Made mine from finaplix pellets. Now you have a fuck load of UGLs making it so no need to do that these days... And from what I understand they put estrogen in finaplix and component th now.

Every time I'd do a test / tren cycle I would run more test than Tren. Usually 600mg test e / 300mg Tren a. The strength gains and look are ridiculous. I got more size off a test / deca cycle but the strength and vascularity were unmatched with the test / Tren cycle. Hands down my favorite cycle combo. Cut? Bulk? It can do em both. Only sides I had from Tren we're night sweats. No problem sleeping or eating. Strength would skyrocket at week 2 and just keep going until end of cycle. And when I say strength I mean huge jumps. Last set on bench I was doing like 255, 6 reps. After Tren, my last set on bench was 335, 6 reps. This was at 185#-200#. 2nd cycle of Tren and test put me close to 220# weight wise and bench was approach 405 on my last set. I have never gotten strength increases like that from any other compound.

My Tren experience comprises 3 cycles. I did a lot of reading prior to doing any cycling simply because I wanted to be educated about the process I was considering undertaking. A common refrain in my reading on the topic of Tren was that it was both extremely powerful and harsh.

Edit: A very noteworthy side effect that I forgot to mention that was present with each run of Tren was the loss of cardio capacity. It was tolerable on the first cycle and much less so on the second and third runs. While the decreased cardio capacity didn't slow my strength gains any appreciable amount, it sure made doing heavy sets of 5 an exercise in oxygen debt. I'm no cardio king but fuck, breathing hard while I wash myself in the shower sure gets old....

My first cycle to include Tren consisted of 500mg of Test E, 300mg of Tren E and 200mg of Deca per week. Doses were evenly divided and shots were taken on Wed. and Sun. I increased the Tren and Test dosages to 400mg/week and 600mg/week, respectively, at the half way point of the cycle. Strength gains were excellent, better than ever before with other compounds. The only side effect I had was the night sweats and I viewed that as inconsequential, basically just a minor cosmetic issue. So what if I soaked the sheets? If that's the worst of it then the benefits are far outweighing the drawbacks. I remember thinking that this Tren stuff wasn't bad at all. Strength increases were great, I had found my go to compound.

Next cycle I wanted more so I bumped the Tren to 600mg/week and the Test to 750. The Deca was dropped for fear of prolactin side effects that could occur with (2) 19-Nor compounds. The same respective esters and dosing protocols were used. Strength gains were even better than before and my physique changed dramatically; body fat melted away at a rapid rate. I'm not a body builder but rather a strongman athlete so I don't focus intensively on my appearance but at the same time I want to present well and look good for my wife. It was a well received change. I like having abs at 275lbs and 50 years of age. I experienced more profound side effects with this cycle as well. The night sweats were even sweatier (I had to sleep on a towel. When I would get up to pee (which happens 2-3 times a night) I'd then have to get rid of the soaked towel and put down down a new one. Getting into a thoroughly soaked bed, which is also ice cold, really sucks. Tends to cut down on the snuggling with the wife substantially as well. Prolactin sides also showed at this dosage with signs of gyno. My solution for that side effect was .25mg of Cabergoline twice a week and to back the Tren down to 500mg/week. That fixed the prolactin issue. There were 2 other side effects I also noticed for the first time. One was a slight appetite decrease. Not too concerning, I was still getting stronger so all was good. The other was "Tren lethargy". Again not too severe and I managed to.push through it.

Now on to cycle 3 with Tren. My previous experience told me that using Tren and Test together at a 2:3 ratio, respectively, was my sweet spot. This cycle consisted of Eq at 300mg/week in addition to the Test and Tren. Esters and dosing protocols were the same as previous. My plan was to use the Tren through week 14 and then drop the Tren and pick up the Eq dosage starting in week 15. My strength began to pick up around week 3 and my body began to transform substantially by around week 6. Again with the night sweats, the diminished appetite and the lethargy. Of the 3, the lethargy was the most troubling. It was more pronounced than ever before. It was becoming a monumental task to come home from work and go to the gym. It wasn't an issue of being tired but rather motivation. I kept thinking to myself that the reason I was taking these drugs was to improve my body and that one of my chosen substances to accomplish this task was ultimately hindering me. After thinking on this for about 4 days I came to the conclusion that I no longer wanted to put up with those issues and decided to drop the Tren. Forever. It did pretty good things for me for a while. And then it was too much. I can't fully explain my experiences the third time around. My dosages were similar to previous runs. Maybe there's a cumulative effect with Tren. Maybe in my advancing age I'm less tolerant of inconveniences/discomforts than in previous years.

I do know at this point in my life that the Tren train no longer interests me and that is a complete 180 from where I was 5 years ago. Five years ago I was thinking Tren was the shit and these guys providing warnings of the evils of Tren were alarmist. I now understand those positions.

Tren is a beast. Proceed with caution. It will most likley have you achieve the results you seek, but the shit that comes with it is not worth it.

Tren works like nothing else, but there ain't no free rides. You will find very few of us that keep going back to that well, besides making you crazy it also fucks your lipids and may even increase risk of Alzheimers later in life. I would strongly recommend never dancing with it.

Hey brother, There's absolutely nothing like Tren out there, Nothing! It's like the ying-yang of gear. amazing results followed by horrible side-effects. you will look your very best and feel your very worse. I felt in love with Tren after the first time i ran it. it gave me a "look" I never had before. My abs looked crazy, my muscle bellies were insane, It took my physique to the next level. The first time I ran it, it was low ace eod, short 6 weeks burst. I didn't have any crazy sides just night sweats and insomnia. no crazy strength gains, it was a cutter so I didn't gain any weight. I had success with Tren but, after implementing it on other cutters the sides outweighs the benefits. It messes with your head to the point where its better to avoid it.

Experiences from tren, fighting, paranoia, delusions, muscle gain.

Results, 3 ex misses, jail, psych medication and convictions.

Dont bother i.m.o.

Dont do Tren bro

Sounds like a lot of good advice on this rather than the usual forums that would be telling you to smash the Tren and there’s nothing better than it. Fair play guys

Not worth it for the recreational user. Sides vs benefits are not worth it.

dhb would be a better option instead of tren. tren is for retaining muscle in a severe calorie defecits for comps or getting really strong. it shines best when cutting. but DHB has less stress on the heart, kidneys, bp and lipids so if youre worried about health take that into consideration

Only use it if you want to get much stronger, if you are more bothered about aesthetics there are way easier compounds and cycles out there that you will feel better on.

Are you dumb brother, you wanna get fertile and talk bout tren, seriously?

Truthfully, unless your goal is to step on stage, I truly don’t see why someone couldn’t put on all the muscle they want with the basics of like test and Deca plus food. Tren is great for when you’re really cutting hard but the sides don’t justify using it casually. That being said I’ve used it out of wanting to understand it and see for myself the effects, and honestly it’ll lean you up more than anything, hence why a contest prep is the way to go.