posted Tue, 05/21/2019 - 03:48
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Mixing oils
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I'd like to get some feedback on mixing oils.
Specifically
Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml with Nandrolone phenylpropionate 100mg/ml.
I don't see this being an issue but would like feedback from more experienced members.
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From a personal experience, I've mixed Test, tren & winny suspension (water based) many times in the same barrel and never had any issues. The water helped lube the inside of the barrel even more and the whole lot goes in even easier than normal. The only thing I wouldn't do is leave it all in the barrel for any amount of time - just load it and pin it in one go.
Its totally fine, no worries.
Mixing oil in the same pin is not an issue. I have mixed multiple oils and added B12 and all went fine.
I never mix oil and water, never inject more than 3ml of substance in one go and never inject same spot for 7 days.
Great advice exactly how I go about it only difference I wait 10 days instead of 7 great info.
Sound logic.
basskiller89I'm actually about to start a cycle with deca and eq added in. My plan is to add 600mg deca and 600mg eq, happens that at that dose I don't really have to mix, but if I had to I would
jayiski mix different gear in the same syringe all the time. since the pin is 3 cc's when needed have mixed 3 different oils. usually its 2 cc's and 1 cc of some other oil.
obv. dont mix oil with water based.
RustyhookerLong time ago folks posted pix of their lava lamp mixes. Was fun and interesting.
Can’t mix oil and water. Remember that and you’ll b ok.
IMO. U could have found that answer w a little research
Just out of curiosity do you know why? Sure, oil and water don’t mix together nicely in the syringe... but they’re both going in the same place. I can’t imagine the muscle is gonna care what the compound is in. It’s gonna absorb it regardless.
Is it a pip thing? Just wondering why is all. I’ve never done it, but I’ve also never used water based gear.
EDIT: never mind. I just read further and greg answered my question. That makes more sense to me.
I actually did look into this and found several contradictory statements on different sites. Some saying don't mix any compounds at all, some saying mixing oils is fine, but not oil and water, others saying mix whatever you like, it's not an issue. Hence my need to start a dialogue in the topic here.
Let me clarify something then. You can't mix oil and water but you can mix oil and water. It's not an issue.
I'll just stick with mixing oils only. Purely to cut down on the number of injections needed.
odds are, you only have oils anyway. Some oils will have different "weights" meaning that they won't readily mix unless vigorously agitated; which is also unnecessary.
Once in the body, the carrier "fluid" is absorbed rather quickly (no matter what it is), and leaves behind the test with the attached ester dissipated in the muscle near the injection site.
You can experiment in the kitchen. Take different cooking oils and water and slowly pour a little in a glass. Heavier oils will settle near the bottom and stack in layers until you get to water at the top. Then pour the glass onto a paper towel... all will be absorbed even though they never were mixed. In case you haven't guessed it, the towel is your muscle. Guess which part of the towel will dry first.
With the way you explain how things work, you would have been a great school teacher. If you weren’t already. Like the way you explained why concentrated oils hurt more by comparing it to eating a hot pepper then putting the hot pepper in a bowl of chili and seeing which would be more hot.
Noted.
There is no issue mixing oils. You simply need to know how to do it using a sterile vial and keeping the entire environment sterile. If you meant true mixing. If you meant simply injecting two compounds then it not an issue.
Thanks John, I simply meant injecting two compounds using the same syringe. I.e. drawing the two compounds into a single syringe barrel. Is that ok? I would change the drawing needles to avoid cross-contamination, and obviously make sure the vials are cleaned with alcohol swabs before and after.
You don't need to change the needle between bottles. Just put a fresh needle on before injecting into muscle.
I did it with a water based Winstrol and oil based test. They don’t mix obviously, but the big thing to note is the viscosity of the liquid.
Using a 23 gauge needle, the oil will take more pressure to push than water. When i would inject, i would draw the oil first, and then draw the Winstrol. This kept the oil at the bottom, so when i injected, i pushed lightly to get the winny in, and then it took more pressure to do the oil. This prevented me from using too much force on the Winstrol and shooting it in at Mach 3 after the oil went in.
I would only do these double shots in my glutes though due to the size of the muscle.
Thanks for your input. I'm currently using 18 to draw, and 25 to pin, but that's with a single compound. Still get major PIP though but it's slowly getting better.
With regards to mixing oil and water, I don't think it would matter which order you free the compounds due to the density of the oil.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback, I'll bear what you said in mind.
Looks like everyone has been fixed up and I’m not here to judge anyone’s body weight. For all I know you’re a lightweight division boxer, but I wouldn’t given there’s such scant info
But yeah. Zero issues
Thank you for confirming that mixing oils isn't an issue. Now that that has been confirmed, I can put together a cycle with further information and allow that to be scrutinized and critiqued for further feedback.
If there’s a clear description of precise goals and what you’re trying to get done, you may not get scrutinized or critiqued like that. It’s easy to brush it off as “no one’s business,” but that’s just kind of low it goes here.
Brooklyn, I encourage scrutiny. There's no progress without criticism. I'll be sure to include the pertinent information about myself, my goals, and the cycle itself. Also, I'll look at other examples of cycles that have been submitted, for reference.
Fair attitude. Welcome back to the green
RustyhookerREMOVE BRAND NAMES. POST FULL CYCLE. YOURE NOT 12 AND NOONE IS GONNA GUESS HERE.
Age: 37
Height: 5'6
Weight: 70kg
BF:
Unless youre 6%....youre way too light for some huge cycle bro
I posted brand names so people could see exactly what I would be mixing. Why is that an issue?
Secondly, I wasn't asking for feedback on my proposed cycle, that would be a different post under the forum for cycles. I just wanted to know if mixing oils is ok or not?
RustyhookerTypically when someone is 30lbs light, refuse to post, cant follow rules....
They come back messed up blaming the gear.
Yolo...good luck. Im done here
"Why is that an issue?"
That u haven't read the rules and don't do what rusty says!
Doesn't answer my question but the post has been amended.
You were told to read the rules... That answers your question.
Rules have evolved over the last ten years. Years ago there was a serious problem with people and sources pushing their brand or bashing another. It was difficult to weed out a true post v. one that was shilling for a lab or source. Thus, the SI pages were born so you can talk about specifics there.
Makes as much sense as saying I Need to post, "what ratio of Jif peanut butter to Smuckers jelly is needed to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?" for you to understand what exactly I was trying to do.
Yes I agree. In hindsight, I realise only the active ingredients were needed. I feel this post has ran it's course now. Thank you for your response.
Can’t post brands in open forum, needs to be kept to whatever src you’re looking into’s src discussion page. Should prob read the rules.