+ 1 Lee Priest - No Test or PCT. Thoughts?
Lee Priest claims to have not used Test much during his cycles. To add to this, he also states that he did not prefer the compound and it's sides as opposed to other compounds. He preferred solo Deca. I was taken back, as gear causes HPTA suppression. I also found the cat stating that he wouldn't run PCT due to his dislike for drugs. He always seemed to bounce back. I am sure genetics play their part, and all, but more studies on this subject would be great.
Anyway, I'll leave the links down below, but what are your thoughts on this fellas? I have even heard Dr. Rand McClain, from JayCutlerTV briefly discuss the need for PCT being a "myth" outside of HCG for reproduction purposes. Do I support these findings I've come across? I don't know. I do know that I found it interesting. Let me know your thoughts.
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My mate has tattooed him.
He takes synthol.
If he isnt on test he certainly buys enough of it.
He gets growth hormone from a " sports dr" thats well known here and there is only a handful of those type of drs here.
I believe he gets it prescribed for a " longterm" back injury.
He also played a part in a new aussie tv series.
He plays a racist body builder and he wears a tshirt that say " white power" on the front.
He also has no tattoos on his face in it and it was filmed late 2019.
Im not sure if its laser removed or thick make up.
In that show he is thick and muscly as fuck and def on cycle.
What the cycle is is speculation.
I do know he gets steroids domestically though.
So do guy's who carry a lot of muscle in Aus get a lot of heat off the cops then with gear being so illegal over there?
Ps- ive always liked lee priest i still do but i said the same thing about rich piana and he died a few months later.
Rumors of drug abuse lately ( powder )
Also hanging around a certain criminal syndicate" bikers".
Anyway.
Law enforcement have relaxed on it over the past few years.
Customs still seize but they dont specifically seek them out.
Dealing them is a bad idea.
We have an ice epidemic here which creates scumbags and crime, l:e know that although steroids are illegal the people using them live decent lives, they are in the gym, eating well and sleeping.
Years back i attacked someone, they went to the cops on me and dobbed me in saying im psycho and im on steroids, 3 x a week for the next 4-5 months o got followed and pulled over and car searched for steroids.
Also waited at my gym for me.
It was severe a few yrs ago.
Not so much now.
If you get caught your still fkd but as stated they dont activeley go out looking for steroid users anymore.
I honestly think within a decade it will be pretty much legalised.
Large amounts and dealing will be jail time.
Personal cycles etc will be a fine.
I must be some sort of gullible fool
I tend to believe him, he has never changed his tune and has been open about use a hell of a lot longer than others
I remember those old interviews with Tom Platz. He absolutely cycled short runs of deca w/ anadrol and growth, did winnie etc
Dont forget he is a midget too, hell of a lot easier to grow wide. Also, he had been training from about 13, switched on since about 19 yo and he loves his grub too!
When most pros like him say they don’t take much gear or no test. Trust me when I say they’re liars. It’s the secret of bodybuilding. I think that he would atleast run 2000mg of test a week along with other compounds. He was just way to big to not be.
In this video "Vince Taylor" says he only did 250mg a week! Genetic freak or lying? Who knows.
https://youtu.be/ptie9dx0GlI
Not sure I believe that honestly, only LEE knows for sure. MOST pros aren't ever going to be upfront and tell you what or how they take it. Some cherish it like they got the secret no ones done or heard of before.
I figured you would know. You got to have some pro clients.
I tell people when you ask a stranger about how much gear and PED's they are running. That its similar to asking a girl how many guys she slept with.
You need to multiply whatever they say by 3 to 5 more.
I've so many gym bros that run a boat load of stuff and just look in shape and natty. And then they lie about what they take..,kinda a drug addict mentality..,or worse claim natty.
Seen a video of Ronnie Coleman where he claimed he got everything he ran from his doctor. So that was fine and made him different then the other BB's. Ronnie has been on the internet and tv making crazy statements.
People don't realize Ronnie is taking very large dosages of opiate pain killers. At first for the pain but now he is high all the time as well.
I guess to see if it works we would have to apply his theory..
Cplvela0811That's one way to test this theory. I just wish there were more studies revolving around our genre of play.
I'd never believe anything a Pro or many other competitors say regarding gear usage - It's the same old story trying to look good by saying they barely use anything at all. Most of the video's I've seen of him show him barely being able to speak obviously on some kind of tranq's, comes across as more of a drug addict than anything nowadays.
Cplvela0811It would be insane to think these guys are lying in retirement. If your statement is true, they would be doing more harm, than good, if that's the case. I can definitely see your standpoint though.
I know Lee Priest partakes in Marijuana. That could explain the "Tranq" behavior, but then again, you could be right.
I also included some thing from Dr. Rand that seemed interesting, regarding our game.
Thanks for the input.
Just look at the amount of muscle mass he still holds, that isn't just from running 500mg Test a week lol These guy's live by the sword and die by the sword more than anyone else, their whole life and living has been created from Bodybuilding, food and gear. No way on earth are they going to want to go back to the life of a norm again after walking around so jacked for so many decades.
Cplvela0811Case in point. I can see what you mean, mate.
I believe it!!! Genetic freak... I loved how he bulked up like a human tick & then ripped up after with ease. Unbelievable!
Robbie Robinson was the same way! A shot of Deca every other week since 1975! No test
Cplvela0811That bulk was insane. It was a complete body recomp. Unbelievable is right.
Robbie Robinson, too, huh? Interesting. He had a nice body, and to consider that off just using Deca. Interesting.
https://youtu.be/_D6VE7SKoyA
He talks about it at the 17 minute mark!
Deca Durabolin 200mg every two weeks year round & last 8 weeks before show Primo Depot & Primo Acetate! Thats it until very late in his career 90's
Cplvela0811+1 for taking the time to provide this material mate. Outstanding to consider no Test.
PcushionMan he was genetically gifted no doubt, and without looking at his lab work no one can say for sure if what he is saying is true or not. I would venture to say he is prob telling the truth about the test thing. I have said for years that’s test has a lot of side effects and isn’t as user friendly as some make it out to be.
As far as the pct goes he is prob telling somewhat the truth. He prob didn’t use pct drugs but ultimately is was bc lack of knowledge or it just wasn’t common yet. I also bet his “bouncing back” was just not being off cycle long enough. I bet those old school guys would take more than 2 months off if any at all.
Cplvela0811You're right about the lab aspect. That would help out more. Test has sides for sure. I feel like the majority of folks who suffer from heavy sides are the higher body fat users. I could be wrong though.
That's a good thing to point out about the eras. Different era, potentially different methods of recovery. I remember seeing a video of Rich Drasin (Golden era) speaking on behalf of dose methods and off time. He said something along the lines of "less was more", and that "when it was time to come off, they came off." He did mention folks staying on, too. Interesting none the less mate. Thanks for the input.
PcushionYeah dude with changing times comes changing in drugs and dosing patterns. I will say from my personal experience these days I prefer my test low.
I never believed Lee Priest with the dosages he claimed to use. But who knows maybe his genetics just respond great to gear.
He is Australian so his accent may make him sound a bit off. But again wouldn't doubt he smokes or takes pills.
His behavior has been the same forever though. Remember he has been banned from the IFBB for decades.
Lee beat Ronnie Coleman and Ronnie has said several times he hated competing against Lee. Because Lee's physique was that good. And Lee is short and was competing against monsters back then.
I do believe in the early days before the internet and ugls. When BB got their gear from somebody at the gym they did use less. Back then everyone used single amps..,not 10 cc bottles..., and only certain compounds were available. Deca back then was usually from the vet and only 50 mgs a cc.
I would reason that would have used more if they had all the gear and PED's that are around today.
Back then it was their intensity in workouts with barbells, db's and some cable machines. The food was much fresher and healthier but they didn't have the nutritional knowledge that is around now.
Cplvela0811Thank you for sharing.
I remember hearing Ronnie say that in an interview. Insane to consider.
Your statement about ampules and diet, wow, because i believe you're right. The food was more "whole", so to speak. That eras hardwork cannot be denied.
If Lee Priest would fall into the ocean and hit a coral reef he could cause an oil spill even BP would be proud of. That would be before the USA try to invade him to use his many oil reserves
Cplvela0811That would be quite the spectacle.