posted Tue, 02/26/2019 - 03:15
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How come my RBC count is normal, yet I inject over a gram of test per week??
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I'm confused by this....I inject over a gram of test per week, yet my test results show that my RBC count is only slightly above normal. Even my dr. was like, it would only go high if you were taking testosterone....That is what confused the fuck out of me...Why hasn't it risen? Now before anyone says "cause your gear is crap", i can say with almost 100% certainty, it's not...its from multiple very high ranking sites on here...sites that have been around for quite awhile...
If anyone has experienced this, let me know...or if you have any reasons why this isn't effecting me the same way, you'd think it would...oh, i do inject subcanteously...if that makes a difference...
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Have you tested your TESTOSTERONE levels?
My hemoglobin are always on the high range of normal when I donate.
bigvampireand how much do you use, if i may ask? mine is slightly over normal...I just expected it to be higher...
Define normal... normal will an exact number. So will abnormal.
You've been asked several questions by several members that know exactly wtf they are talking about, that you have completely ignored.
If you are not going to pony up with the answers it means you are choc full of shit or havent a fkn clue of what normal is. So it's a -2 from me until you do.
bigvampireI have answered their questions...they wanted to know what my other blood results were...I said that this was just a routine blood test...there were tests for testosterone or estrogen levels or any of that...not sure what else was asked that I didn't answer....
nope you didnt.
3 in a row below, including mine. One of the lads is a medical professional.
bigvampireOk...i looked up my test results that i got....RBC was: 6.03 My Hematocrit was: 48.8%
my RDW was: 20% not sure what else is needed....
You really aren't very smart, are you? Honestly, I dont think you should be running steroids.
'Q' is the seventeenth letter of the English alphabet. 'Q' is used for 'question'.
bigvampireI know how to take the syringe and put it in the vial and inject it. not sure why the insults...I asked a very simple question...some have asked for additional info that I simply do not have...that only makes you ignorant and thick headed, not to understand plain english...I provided what results I do have...I don't appreciate the insult. I was warned about posting any questions on forums such as this...cause the people, not all, but many can be total douche bags, which is evident...I have answered any questions that were relevant...
I would think a big vampire such as yourself would have a better understanding of blood work.
Just seeing this...lol
Alphamale500I'm curious to what your other numbers like total test, free test, e2, SHBG, AST and ALT were like?
bigvampireAs I said, none of what you mentioned were tested..they weren't part of my routine blood work..it was just a basic blood test..it was just something i noticed...
Something smells here
RustyhookerSounds like a retread
First off, why are you injecting over a GRAM of test Subq? Thats a shit load of oil to be putting subq every week, over 4cc's depending on strength. Any particular reason you are not doing IM shots for this?
What is your BF%?
bigvampireI read about subq. injections online a couple of years ago...also watched some youtube videos...also read about how it had more stable test levels. And i'll be honest, i'd much rather use an insulin needle than those huge syringes...as long as you rotate the sites, you can manage it...sometimes the spot gets sore, but not overly sore. and it can last a few days...not sure my bodyfat %....probably too high...i do want to get leaner..definitely...
I use slin pins for glutes , delts, everything. That much gear you should be pinning IM. I can see sub q dpr small 100 - 200 mg trt doses i guess but i would much rather put it in a muscle that has blood flow to carry that hormone to the rest of the body. That coukd be your problem there. You might not be absorbing near as much as you think...
bigvampireWouldn't it all eventually be absorbed? it's not just going to sit there...i can understand it might take longer, but eventually, it should get into your blood.
https://www.gertitashkomd.com/blog/2017/9/10/subcutaneous-testosterone-i...
This shows that subq. is actually better and less is needed to achieve the same results...now, not sure how that is for much higher doses. I also found this article:
https://www.t-nation.com/pharma/get-20-better-results-from-testosterone
How much over a gram?
What is your CBC values...all of them....even platelets and RDW?
What's the length of time you have been injecting this amount?
When hematocrit (volume carrying capacity) elevates between 55 and 60, that's a concern for donation. Hemoglobin's value indicates oxygen carrying capacity, which I'm sure you know this.
Keep getting your BW on a regular basis.
Q: What was baseline? (baseline is your pre-cycle/natural/stable TRT level)
Q: What is it at now?
A: If it isnt at baseline then it isn't normal
Forget ranges. Ranges are for muppets and golf players.
RustyhookerWhy? You really want maxed out rbc and a good old stroke or death? Nothing like drooling like a rabid dog while folks pass by making comments about the funky weido.
Age: 50
Height: 5'8
Weight: 275
BF:
Might address bf a bit so folks know if you need more worries
Like said below people are different
So you tested your blood, what was you total and free testosterone levels on the test? Just so you can COMPLETELY rule out the suspicion that your gear is bunk.
Secondly, not everyone experiences elevated rbc’s at the same rate. We’re all different. The important thing is to track what your “normal” readings are so if something is out of whack, you recognize it.
For example: I have genetically low BP. If I have a reading of 120/80 normally the doc would say great get out of my office. I know that’s about 30 points higher than my normal and I know that something is up. (usually it’s because I’m blasting tren or deca or anadrol or something...)
bigvampireafter reading, i'm starting to think that the reason for the rbc count not rising is of my mode of delivery...which is subcantaneous...since it gets in the blood much slower and more steady, i feel that is the reason...
bigvampireI never got my testosterone levels checked...this was a completely non related blood panel test...they just ran basic blood tests for a checkup of sorts. I know the stuff is legit...from some of the best reviewed sites on here... and ones that have been around for quite awhile...
bigvampireI had tests done that just happen to run the RBC count and Hematicrite levels...and they were both normal..everything i have read, has said that subcantaneous injections have resulted in more even levels..but that it is also equal to muscular injections as far as absorption...it just takes longer to get in...
Thesis like the third Sub Q post tonight. I repeat I'm not a big fan of Sub Q injections for oil! It creates absorption issues and can cause issues at the injection site. Dis you do a lab for Test? If so what was it? That could give you a clue as to what's going on.
At a gram of Test you should have a high Test level.
Tell that to the doctor of my trans male son.
Greg, thoughts on utilizing it for a blast vs hrt? With a half a cc a week I don’t see any problems with sub q if it’s working (no irritation at injection site) but what if we’re shooting 10 cc’s a week? That’s gotta go IM right? I think John may have been assuming this guy was shooting more than hrt levels of oil.
I've tried it and had less than stellar experiences with UGL injections and injections more than 1ml at a time. (redness, welts, pip or discomfort)
If you're doing 10 ml a week I'd suggest IM. experiment, add it as an option for a site rotation, or, for the TRT dose during a "blast" or cycle.
The doc explained the only reason pharma can't put Sub-q as an option for administration is because when they submitted the (rather expensive) studies for drug approval they only studied IM injections.
It has nothing to do with absorption or "problems". Doctors have been prescribing sub-q injections for years and reporting "as good" results, less pip, and easier patient self administration.
Fuck man there must be something in the air cause I was one of those subq forums lol I honestly have never heard of it till today