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High concentration test pip

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So for my first cycle i decided to buy high concentration test 500mg per ml. I got pins and injection advice from a guy i know who does trt made sure everything was sterile and injected in my right glute. No pain until two days later and nearly couldnt walk. So my question is did the gear crash in my glute and how should i go about carrying on with the gear i have. Ive heard cutting it with sterile oil will keep it from crashing before its absorbed. Any advice? Thank you in advance this is my first post go try to go easy on me.

Lifted4life's picture

I had the same thing happen to me when I did a quad of 400 last week, so I decided to just stick with glutes, but now I feel a decent size lump under skin on glutes. Is this lump normal or does this mean that I didn’t go far enough into the muscle. Porbably never using quads again…lol

Mrcoolbeans's picture

Used to use 400mg per ml back in the day. First and second cycle i ever did. Then realized I’d rather just stick with 250-300mg per and pin more oil. Specially when most charge more for the higher stuff anyways.

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

For starters, I'm not sure if you're ready for AAS yet, with that in mind I have some questions.

How long have you been training naturally for?
Are you warming up the oil prior to pinning?
Are you pinning slowly?
What gauge needle are you using to pin?

If you're going to insist on running AAS, if I were you I probably switch over to a vial of Testosterone dosed at 200-250mg/ml. This was you just take around 1ml x 2/week. I bet it'll give you way less PIP.

Davidalbert969's picture

High mg of any compound can cause soreness. 500mg in a ml is alot of raw in 1ml.
Now if they use eo to dissolve the raw the pain won t be as bad. I've made sust at 450 with little to no pip.
Test prop 200 with no pip.
If it's a virgin muscle it will be sore as well.
If I can help anymore let me know

Carlos Danger's picture

You’ve got to train your body to handle high dosages and have gear made by a first class brewer. I’ve regularly injected 500mg/ml. I was 5+ years into regular use by then. You’ve got to learn how to crawl before you walk

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hugeandstrong's picture

Hi.

I have myself bought High Dosed AAS out of thinking if I pin just 1 cc that means 500 mg of testosterone. So I thought less quantity to inject plus more juice for cheaper price. The PIP was horrible.

I learned my lesson the hard way. Now I realised I would rather inject more cc's and be PIP free then be crippled from the pain.

Try 0.5 CC at once maximum. Warming up the oil prior to injection helps some people.

If it is too bad just buy normally dosed gear.

Good luck.

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stairmaster's picture

Buy high concentrated gear is nonsense in my opinion, I think its defo better to pin pip free 2cc instead of 1cc high concentrated pip gear....

Greg's picture

Give it some time. If you're only pinning 1/2 mil as you implied below, it could mostly be PIP from having virgin muscles. I recall my first time and I felt someone had hit me with a baseball bat.

333's picture

250mg cyp for me on my first pin ever into quad lol I was like oh shit I don't know if I can't handle this pain every week haha i walked around like a pirate with a wooden leg for the first few pins

Johnny Bravo's picture

My first one was 1cc of B12 in the glute and every time I went to the bathroom for the next few days I would pull down my pants and look at my ass in the mirror cuz I thought it was infected I was in so much pain. Felt like I got bucked by a moose

Fred G.Sanfords's picture

Lol same here people would ask what’s wrong with your leg and I’d say damn I think I pulled a muscle working out!

dextetherdog's picture

All the guys with high concentration substances seem to go through the same process.
Why would you do this, is this greediness ???

Sam I Am's picture

Gear is dosed at certain mgs for a reason.

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the_gainz's picture

I see people buying high dose test all the time to try to save a buck. End up spending more when the gear is unusable.

Hustle28's picture

So I’m questioning ur stats bro because ur young and very irresponsible for not doing proper research . But ur glutes are in pain because u decided to use high mg gear on virgen muscle smh it seems like you did very little research before putting something in ur body so with that being said u can keep going through a painful cycle or stop and re asses ur mistake and take the proper time to research ! Before I started my first cycle It took me 2 years of non stop research and yet with year in I’m still learning so take ur time read and ask questions do things properly for ur own health benefit

R1NG3R's picture

I appriciate the reply man and for sure i didnt research as well as i should have i thought the most important things would be pct and making sure i had everything i needed. I bought high concentration gear thinking injecting less volume would be better in regard to pip only to find that the opposite was true. But ive decided to reevalute what i was doing and my question is would you suggest cutting the gear with sterile oil? Im only here asking because i understand ive made a mistake and ill admit that but the only way to learn is to ask these questions from someone who knows more than me or through trial and error.

Hustle28's picture

Well you can cut it but you know what’s even better ?? Buying gear that’s not so high in concentration. You will benefit much more from that especially since it’s ur first cycle. For instance how I started was with test e 300 and I would only hit half dosages my first run just to get my muscles used to injections and by me doing that now I can on everywhere. And to further what you said up top you should always have ur pct before you even have ur cycle for the reasons that you have now that if ur in pain or even something pops you can jump off cycle and recover. My best advice to you would be grab something lower in mgs and if you can cut you will have to search for sterile oil and reduce it by 2:1 ratio but even then you will be pinning a lot of oil in ur virgen muscles so it’s a lose lose. You can try heating it and pinning small volumes but you will see pain the whole way no imagine pinning thatvin ur quads or delts

Before you even jump on cycle you should have your money and time squared away so I hope you have money set aside to grab what you need. Any other question hit me in PM I’ll try my best to square you away

tattoofreak's picture

Many guys making the same mistakes. Less volume gives less pip sounds plausible. But the reality is totally different. With this high concentrated gear the most guys got such a pip, that they have to throw it in the garbage or mix it with pure injection oil respectively with "low concentrated" gear for a better toleration. Most important thing before starting a cycle, is research and more research!