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  • Guide: How to avoid Test Flu

  • skydancer4   •   Sun, Dec 1st, '19 05:27   •   22 replies, 253 views

Hello, as I said, I will write several articles about PEDS and how to try to avoid its side effects.

My first article is about the Test Flu and how to try to avoid it.

What is Test Flu

Test Flu its when we have flu-like symptoms, due to the use of testosterone, its duration and severity may change depending on the person's genetics, the dose used and the ester.

What causes it

After injecting testosterone, it breaks down into several metabolites, one of them the neurosteroid called ethiocolanolone, this metabolite is responsible for different actions in the body, as the feeling of well-being and also causes an immunological stimulating response in the body. This can cause several flu like symptoms such as fever, stomach ache, dizziness, inflammation….

What EXACTLY causes it

As I said before, this neurosteroid causes flu-like symptoms, when we use a short ester, the concentration of this neurosteroid increases very quickly without allowing the body time to adapt, if we used a long ester it would be very unlikely that it could cause fever unless we used a very high dose.

How to avoid it

The easiest way is to use a long ester but if we want to use a short ester, the way to avoid it would be to use injections subcutaneously so that the fast ester is released slowly, thus helping the body to adapt.
*Also you can use sodium bicarbonate prior to eating 2 times per day to impact in the activity of our lymphocytes to lower the flu like symptoms.

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  • Dudeman24
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Thanks for the read man

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  • Slowly
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Enjoy reading friend.

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Thank you!

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  • johnmarshall12
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I'm not a big fan of Sub Q oil shots for one. I usually try to use long esters and it hasn't been a problem for me.

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I've tried sub-q oil shots twice and both times ended up with big, painful red welts that had to be drained. Definitely not a fan

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Already a lot topocs about flu and how to prevent flu , here is a very good one:

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/test-flu-what-is-it-and-what-to-do

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i dont know if my response to you sounded cocky or something like that, if you think so im sorry, english is not my first language and i sometimes sound cocky.
:)

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That post is not related to my topic, he is talking about a kind of allergic reaction to the ester, and that can happen also using not test.
Also new papers are published everyday and the science of this sport changes everyday, my posts are going to be focused on the new clinical studies.
For example today there are new evidences saying that the famous GH bubblegut is not caused by increased organ size, is caused by insulin causing stomach problems when digestin the food, what i want to say with this example is that some of the old information is obsolete and is useful to new the newer information (before someone corrects me,yes GH can cause larger organs and bubble gut, but is not the main cause in today BB)

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It's got nothing to do with the type of ester used in my experience, you'll either get it from a contaminated batch of Test from a lab or you won't - simple as that. There was one lab I'd always get it from so I just stopped using it. I'd never ever pin test Sub q either unless you want to suffer needless pain and a possible infection/abscess from it not getting into muscle tissue properly & deeply enough.

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Yep. As I mentioned above I tried sub-q oil shots twice and both times ended up with painful red welts that had to be drained.

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What were the circumstances, ugl? Under .5ml? Ester? Some Trt docs will prescribe small volume subq shots now. I've done them with ugl and was not pleased, I should have used the Watson Cyp..

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OMG Really?! Whats the procedure when they drain things like that bud?

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It's important to distinguish the "flu" which is a virus and not bacterial (as you suggest with the contaminated batch comment). And, "FLU LIKE SYMPTOMS", which also is not the viral flu but caused by a "reaction" to taking test -what the poster is trying to express.

Also, for your information, this is not the 70's. Sub-Q injections are an acceptable option prescribed by many endo specialists. Drug companies do exhaustive, expensive, drug tests to get FDA approval. They are not going to go through retesting with the FDA so that they can add the sub-q option. It will not positively affect their bottom line and doctors are already prescribing it that way based on peer studies.

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  • @Greg

I thought the general advice we stick to on the site is to inject deep into muscle tissue to lessen the chance of an abscess from lingering oil in fatty areas and to make sure it is in good contact with blood flow within muscle so it disperses properly?

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Do a search, there are is plenty of discussion and debate on the issue. I've made posts recommending against using UGL gear and anything approaching 1cc sub-Q based on my own experiance... my endo doc has suggested using Sub-Q injections and that is what I do for my TRT.

Upside is if I want to "blast" during my TRT I don't have to look for additional sites for a pin rotation.

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Thank you for helping me with my topic, yes docs nowadays are recommending using subq injections due to steady liberation... When someone says they dont use them because they can cause an infection is probably because they are using some contaminated batch... With pharma meds 0% chance of an infection.

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Well, besides a ton of people who got bacterial meningitis from a spinal injection here in the US...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.spineuniverse.com/amp/42316&ved=2ahUKEwi8wIfg0pXmAhXNHjQIHWJ0DG0QFjABegQIDBAK&usg=AOvVaw2H6KVvrLpKM_c4hfNLYdfG&ampcf=1

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cdc.gov/injectionsafety/spinalinjection-meningitis.html&ved=2ahUKEwi8wIfg0pXmAhXNHjQIHWJ0DG0QFjAOegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw2c_8ZIefb231T8VikL8dLH

Yeah.. more than a 0% chance of infection from pharmacy medicine..
People died from it lol
I work with a guy whose wife got fucked up from it, requires constant care..

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As i pointed out on the other reply you can also get test flu symptoms from a contaminated batch, in that case is an infection and needs to be treated like one, but scientifically speaking the "test flu" is related with the type of ester (the teacher who helped me with my PhD showed to me studies of people getting test flu from pharma sust, and that cant be contaminated).
You are totally right about the subq injection, but is one form to avoid it and needs to be pointed out (i have used this personally without problems, on the other hand i did a leg shot a while ago and i ended up with an infection... so it depends), if someone is capable of doing this kind of injection and wants to avoid test flu, this is one of the ways to do it (but i prefer to be honest using the sodium bicarbonate way, lees effective but safer).
Thanks for pointing that out!

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How long have you used steroids for?

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If you read my presentation you will know more about my, if you are asking that because you want to know if im knowing what i am talking about, yes i know. My field of studies was kinda based on PEDS, my PhD was based on them and my current work in the lab is about them, as far as personal use im not that experienced compared with a lot of you, as far as scientific knowledge and not broscience im kind good. This post was only to try to help

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Vitamin C and zinc used to work wonders for me. Haven’t had issues with test flu in years though.

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Those can help in a certain way, helping with the inflammatory way, but more related to help if the flu like symptoms are caused by some kind of infection.
After some cycles your body adapts to it and it wont appear again unless you use some crazy doses, this post is more for newbies or very high dose users haha :)