First time injecting quads
Hey guys, so im in my prep for a show thats due in 5 weeks, and due to eod pins i finally got to pin quads to give my other sites some rest. My current doses are 125mg tren, 125mg mast and 75mg test prop eod. Its my 6th cycle but first time urilizing tren( apart from some night sweats its going great i might add)
Normally i pin glutes n delts. I shot my lats as well but it hurt like a mf the day after. Although i think its the fact that its a virgin muscle. As i said, i pinned my quads and holly shit. Its day 2 post quad injection and i cant walk or bend my legs for the life of me. Is it because i popped their cherry or just the fact that fast acting substances can irritate more the injection site?
I do the following procedure:
-Have a hot shower
-Swipe the bottle caps with alchohol swipe
-Draw all 3 substances in same syringe
-Change needle to a 1" blue ir 5/8" orange dependig where i pin
-Heat up the oil in the syringe with wifes hair blower or a heating pad
-Wipe the area with alchohol and let it sit for 20-25 seconds
-Mildly stretch skin and pin slow
-Depending the spot me or the wife pushes the oil in 30secs per ml
-sterilize the area again
-use a heating pad and gently rub for 10 mins
Anything else i could do to make pip less painfull? I cant bend my knees and im walking like a cripple! Do u think its just the fact that is a virgin muscle? I dont think i damaged anything tbh im leaning to believe that its a combination of the fast drugs + the virgin quads to oil. I used a 5/8 pin im quite lean and have visible quad separation. Shot as instructed the outer part of the quad in a 45 angle
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LOL. I hated quad pinning. but, short esters and virgin muscle are a recipe for a bit of pain. Make sure your sitting down, relax them babies, heat the oil a bit and pin slow. once pinned dont push the muscles around AKA massaging the pin site. It might be a bit itchy but leave it alone. In time it wont be an issue. Good luck in the show!
Thanks brother! Pinned them today for the third time so far and every time is getting better and better.
Injected 1" in quads, mild soreness and discomfort 1 day after but im feeling better than ever the following day. No pain, no soreness like i never injected! I rotate glutes, lats, rear delts/delts and quads now. Every time on a different spot and so far no lumps or major pip. Cruising smoothly into the show and hoping to keep at it! Thank you all again
RustyhookerLOUD APPLAUSE
Im going to try one more time pinning quads today. Ill use 1" and bury it. Hopefully it wont take me 4 days walking like a cripple lol. Thank you all for thr support and the valuable input from ur experiences btw. Much, much appreciated
I think it's a combination of virgin muscle and the compounds you are pinning. I can throw 3ml of Test E/EQ in my quad and not feel a thing. Pinned 1cc of Tren Ace yesterday in my quad and its a bit sore. Depending on shot location and how it went can also determine pip. As others advised, try a 1" next time and go deep from the side, see if that helps. Good luck with your prep!
And call me weird, but all I do is quad injections. So if you need any more advise then let me know and I will gladly help you with what I can brother!
Hey man I was looking up subject of inj rotation. All I do are my glutes right now. In the past I have done delta and quads but it’s been years and I had a bad experience with quad , was redness, limping afew days which blows at work but passed. I saw on post you only do quads or did at the time(older post) ?
Anyway any advice appreciated on quad inj. I’m thinking I’ll rotate glutes/delta/quads but quads I have biggest concern with. Thanks again.
Ps: I alcohol clean site and bottle and heat oils then. Usually massage or use heating pad or car seat heater if driving afterwards.
KB
I know this is old post I’ll start my own if need be.
Eventually you'll just end up with a load of scar tissue there and hard cracking skin that eventually when you penetrate it with a needle will send you screaming up the walls as the needle snaps in - Trust me!
The Good times don't last forever, you need to rotate with other injection sites otherwise your body will end up a mess.
This may help you and it may not, but try NOT to massage the muscle after injection as this can further tear the muscle. I have found in my experience that this helps me with PIP. Hope this helps.
Rustyhooker+2 and seated during pin
Oh yeah...and that too lol
Try. A 25 gage needle or smaller. Relax the leg on a pillow. When I say relax I mean really relax that quad. One inch long needle. Try to do it after a hot shower. Hope this helps.
Used to experience same with quads therefore I switched it to arms, rather inject triceps.
Dave Polumbo says injecting quads potentially could be dangerous.
Will never to quads again, I know myself pre-contest you have too much of injecting to do but I would advice to find alternatives
Advice would be to never pin quads ever.
EOD and you cannot rotate between 2 glutes and 2 delts?
traps? chest?
The lower i get in bf i find it more difficult to find a spot thats not irritated still. Im splitting my 2.5mls into 2 injections for shoulders but for glutes i didnt. So i would shoot 1.25 into each delt, next shot would be 2.5 ml on the right glute, next shot would be 2.5 ml on the left glute and repeat. But now im trying to split it every time to get my body more rest time with less oil. So now im trying 1.25ml in each delt, following shot is 1.25ml in each lat, followed by 1.25ml in each glute and lastly 1.25ml in each quad (and thats how i ended up injecting quads) it was never my intention to pin quads out of fear of fucking something up in my legs but i said at the end of the day better to start including them now proactively than when im closer to the competition in case something goes wrong
You certainly are making a risky move to first attempt a quad injection at lower bodyfat during the end of a prep. Being "proactive" would be to attempt this in the offseason in preparation for possible prep pinning.
I would try insulin pins and try top of the delts, traps, and lats.
Again I would avoid quads most especially in lower bodyfat conditions.
Trying new things at the end of a prep for the first time usually does not end well.
RustyhookerHow often you pinning? You get as many points as ya can or have oil issues.
Im pinning eod gonna swap to ed for stability on bloods the last 14 days. I think ed pins will give slightly better results but i already feel like a pin cushion. What do u mean by oil issues Rusty?
RustyhookerId go ed pins for oil volume. Avoid sterile abscess risks.
Pin cushion....i do understand that feeling.
Ventro glutes...2
Medial delts...2
Rear delts......2
Quad outer....2
Intermedius quad....2
Thats my rotation. 1 pin per spot and gives more time to recover. Less pincushion feeling. But...gotta have smaller total cc. Im short so 1.25 for my delts is close to my max. The other spots i can get to 1.5.
Oh the joys of short esters. Effective but gotta be creative. Im planning on adding traps into my rotation. See how that goes. 25ga is my go to size.
Ive used 25 for traps. But now i buy the 27's just for them
RustyhookerI have some long 27s....gonna try that!
Heh i feel u brother, not a giant myself on 5'7 but i shot my dets with 2mls the most at once with no problem. Well truth be told i had some fuckups in the delts as well, but with fewer dosage as well. As i said delts are a hit or miss for me as well. I shot em yesterday and im feeing ok so far. Ill take my heating pad to work just in case though. I think ill try your totation when i start ed pins or if i see that the oil started to get too much as i gradually increase the dosages abit. Thanks for the info
Rear delts jesus - doesn't that hurt? I'm assuming you have a partner do that for you
RustyhookerHelp yes. I can barely reach with my lil trex arms. Lol!
Alphamale500I still go with the knowledge that juice should be injected deep intramuscular with a 1.25",1.5" pin, and I don't inject anywhere this can't be done. I know everone may not agree, but that seemed to be common knowledge from the medical community years ago, and I haven't seen it change except with guys who use juice, so I stick with it! I know there's gonna be many that don't agree, but this is just the way I like to do it, and I'm not saying anyone should follow.
Maybe you can massage that area. It's very possible like you said, that it could be happening because it's a virgin muscle, and maybe 3ml's is too much for that muscle at this time. You did inject 3ml's right? Personally, I wouldn't inject 3ml's into a virgin muscle, especially into quads! But from reading your procedure, is seems like you did everything fine.
Injecting into quads can be very difficult for some people, and it has to be done in the correct area. It's not for everyone.
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you are absolutely right bro, oils should be injected deep intramuscular especially when injecting more than one ml . I'm a male nurse and in the medical field the practices used in bro-science would get me fired instantly. I actually wrote a forum on injecting correctly from a medical stand point and it caught a good bit of flack.
Alphamale500That's certainly always been how I learned to inject oily solutions properly, and how I've always done so. I'm not knocking anyone who injects any other way, that's your business. I just prefer to do it my way, that's all.
Ill go with 1" on quads next time, i didnt inject 3mls in a quad. I injected 1.25 in each quad id never go over 1.5 on quads
Alphamale500Oh, I must have misunderstood. I thought you injected 3ml's into your quad. But I do think it's very possible that your pain is from injecting into a virgin muscle, especially with the muscle being quads. Besides using a heating pad on the area and massaging, you might just have to give it time to go away. Are you sure you injected into the correct area of your quad?
It's just the short esters in virgin muscle.
It will better.
Alphamale500Yep. Definitely seems so.
You take great care in prepping and that's good! I believe the problem is the 5/8 pin. You really should never use less than 1". Also Quads are tricky! As long as there is no swelling or redness you should be ok:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/quad-injections-a-love...
This link is a goldmine. Thank you for sharing brother. Also im sorry to hear that about your quad. Im sceptical though about my situation now. I hope i didnt fuck something up in my leg,the right quad hurts slightly more than the left and im still feeling stiff n slightly swelled. I take great pride over my legs and id be seriously pissed if i caused damage to one of my strongest points. It took me years to develop them id hate to see that diminished by a shot
I never shoot quads or calfs. For me
Left delt, right delt, left glute, right glute, lefft pec, right pec
Left trap, right trap
Perfect schedule man, thats how I do it too.
Thank u all for the advice and feedback guys. Its a bitch to walk today but i got a workout and cardio to smash. Im feeling a bit better than last night. Ill wait a bit and head for the gym. Aint no rest for the wicked
I get less pip with 25g 1.5” in my quads compared to the 1”. I’m very lean like yourself. Can’t pinch any fat on my quads. Some people never pin quads because of the pip.
I dont even pin my glutes with 1.5 let alone try my quads man lol
ill try 1" but no chance pinning with the 1.5 in quads tbh
That's what I use the BD blues love em
Im gonna try to microdose going forward! Thanks for the advice man
Yeah bro I'd say your combination of compounds plus shooting into virgin muscle both contributed to your discomfort. Try using a heating pad on those knotted up areas and work your legs as soon as you can handle it to get some blood flowing and move that crystallization around. Both the guys below gave you good advice. I also try to stay around 1cc per quad until I'm certain I can handle more. In the meantime just stick with the "I'm super sore from a killer leg workout story." Other than that it sounds like you're doing everything right and understand why it happened.
Try pinning less gear at once. I'm assuming you pinned at least 3ml right there at least. That could be the problem. What i do is back load a 100 unit insulin syringe and hit front delt side delt upper chest - easy af. I get away with .5ml without any problems. 1ml per delt is hit or miss for me whether it's painful or not. Boom
Yeah delts are hit or miss as well for me. Im gonna start microdosing so ill split 0.5ml in each delt head for delts for today. As for quads i split 2.5ml in both quads not one at a time
so it was 1.25 ml per quad.
I always shoot around 3ml through a 25g 5/8" orange and never have any probs into quads, I've been doing it over several years now. I do occasionally get a bit of pip the next day but its only if I've hit a vein or nerve and not really noticed it at the time if I've had a painkiller in me etc. If its virgin muscle then you'll definately get some discomfort at first in legs until they are use to taking injections. I've always read never to massage/rub the site afterwards also.
So many mixed information regarding pip tbh. I even heard guys icing the area the day after. It doesnt make sence to me since it might make the solution crystalize but wtv. I also heard both, massage and dont massage the area, and pin pre or post workout. So far i tried pre and post workout and i think post workout is better for glutes and lats, but for my delts pre workout is better. Might just be coincidence btw. I found zero scientific backed evidence of which method is better, so different strokes for different fokes i guess
You shot all that with a 5/8??? How many cc’s?
Sounds like too shallow and too much oil.
I stick with a 1 inch for the quads and bury it.