posted Mon, 12/10/2018 - 01:09
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I used to think frontloading eq was a good idea. Been reading a bit and most of what im coming across says its a waste. What do you guys think? Why?
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I used to think frontloading eq was a good idea. Been reading a bit and most of what im coming across says its a waste. What do you guys think? Why?
When frontoading, the end goal is the clinical outcome (what happens to the body), so for an AAS user it is muscle building or retention.
The question is, if you frontload; will you achieve extra muscle, or faster built muscle from that dose?
The answer is no, not really. (Most people who frontload do so and gauge by certain side effects like water retention and assoc. strength increases rather than actual myotrophic action (in muscle action).
Also, despite what people think, EQ is not a magical mystical compound that has a magical longer lead in time or voodoo-like 18 week on switch, with regard to building muscle. It is merely a poor muscle builder so results take longer to accumulate, whereas sides, including those from frontloading, appear relatively quickly.
It is more complicated than just lashing in a few extra ml's. Nutrients and proteins all matter too, as do limitations like the muscle-full effect etc. Strength is probably the one exception, but even then it is better to build that slowly over weeks rather than risk injury. Gotta check that ego.
Great explanation, much appreciated man.
PcushionThat’s some well spoken truth. Answers like that are why I joined this site.
Unless you are fairly experienced with AAS and have ran plenty of successful cycles you don't want to frontload. You can wind up in a bad mess in real hurry. There is alot more to actually doing a proper frontload than taking an extra shot or two so it is best left to experienced folk.
This is so true
Appreciate the input man, Ill steer clear of frontloading just isnt for me right now.
Dominick77Makwa, thank you for being a prime example of how an EXP member is supposed to present themselves. By intelligently and respectfully answering a question that a not so experienced member kindly inquired about. It is truly appreciated Makwa and I wish you and yours well this holiday season!
There is Bold Cyp also as an option. it's not widely available , but a few trusted sources carry it
Bold Ace has a very bad rep with pip, though I have never used the compound myself so I can not say for sure.
Yeah i read about bold ace sounds horrific. I need to look around and see if i can find that cyp. Pm me if you know of anyone who carries it.
search through the domestic sources not in the top 10 bro, you will find them.
I think its the amount of solvents used with bold ace, though again I've never used it.
I've frontloaded EQ before and it was just like some of the guys said below, it makes the side effects worse. Especially with EQ. It caused my blood pressure to skyrocket which lead to intense headaches and lethargy. Basically it made me feel like crap. I've found the best way to get through that wait for EQ to kick in is to incorporate another compound. Tbol works great because you can use it at a moderate dose for 6 weeks. NPP is another good option. You start with the quick onset of fast acting Nandrolone, then drop it 6-8 weeks in and let the EQ do it's thing. Or as other's have stated you can just wait for it. I wouldn't bother frontloading.
StevebJust don't try any short eaters of it like bold ace.
Ouch!
Well, I'm still a noob here (so take my thoughts with a grain of salt), but the concept of front loading (not just EQ) makes sense to me. Loading doses are used quite often in medical settings with other drugs that have long half lives.
The way I look at it, body will only observe certain amounts of it anyways so don’t see the point of front loading.
Why only EQ? The purpose of the frontload is to have the same amount released in your body as if you had waited several weeks (obviously depending on the ester / frequency of injection / quantity). The undecyclenate ester is a long ester, so the it takes time to reach optimum level and also to go down, there are two periods of time were the levels are not high enough or low. The advantage of the frontload, I see, is I think to be quickly at an effective level without the wait, and the default is probably that we no time to get used to the side effects and correct (change injected quantity or periodicity) if necessary.
I guess it applies to all long ester compounds really. Just looking at eq right now cause im considering running it. I see so the body does better when it has time to adapt instead of going full throttle out the gate and trying to adapt.
RustyhookerWhat exactly do you need to know? Pix? Priors? Real stats? Goal?
no track, stream? Sleeper acct....
Mastinos55wow rusty started investigatin again why u always actin like u where somebody from staff here
but that what u doin is always searchiin for reasons they none existent then u start neggin but go on and keep do what u doin with ur pathetic behaviour lmfao.......
RustyhookerYoure such a whiney lil baby girl. Yet you dont and didnt try to help the op at all
Here it goes genius.... how do you expect me to potentially post an advanced technique without knowing the skill set of the op? Front loading is advanced.
But youd rather put on your diaper and cry with the cool kids. You got magical powers that somehow told you all about the op
take note lil one.... the op acct is a sleeper. But you didnt even know that either, did you?
StevebHe just wants people's opinions or experiences with it.
RustyhookerTheres hundreds of forums on frontloading. So does he want the cookie cutter or advanced techniques? Those answers wont be just tossed out without knowing skill set.
Magnifying glass up top. Natures cure for research
A fucking shit show, I tell you.
I guess I could see both sides.
Is the OP curious about front loading EQ in general, which is a mid AAS with a long ester that needs to be run for a longer cycle. Would there be any benefit in general for doing so. Legit generic question. Cookie cutter I do say.
Or is he asking about his cycle, if he should do it, and the pros and cons of doing so which you could never answer without knowing stats.
Sending holiday cheer to all you grumpy fucks out there. 12 days till christmas. Better to be on the nice list than the naughty list when the jolly old man comes down your chimney.
RustyhookerFolks get pissed if i post a cookie cutter. But the op didnt even post any replies to show that hes ready for advanced cycles with frontloading. So another shit show and the op admitted not enough skill to frontload. Go figure.
Ya cant post up adv info without a cosign.... strike two by this crowd. Lol!!
StevebNew peopl ask stuff like that all the time, they just want to hear people's experiences and responding in certain ways discourages people from participating on eroids.
I didn't know it was nature's cure for research?? And the advice thing goes both ways, what makes someone qualified to give "advanced technique" advice?
RustyhookerIts obvious the op hasnt the skills to even need a frontload which, the op could have answered. Had he known and held the skills to properly frontload then its quite possible he could have looked into advanced option in cycles.
Once again the cookie cutter approach says it all.
StevebWhat makes someone qualified to give "advanced technique" advice?
RustyhookerDid you offer advanced advice to the op?
Then its obviously not you thats qualified. If ya have to ask...
StevebDid you offer advanced advice to the op?
That's advice
What makes someone qualified to give "advanced technique" advice?
There is no difference with someone with fake stats asking for advice and someone with fake stats giving advice Rusty. That's advice for you.
RustyhookerAwwww....how sweet!
You post pix yet mouth? Didnt think so....
StevebYo did post pictures and that was the problem
Rustyhooker'You'
And since you haven't posted pix, go sit in back of the class with Mr silver star and crayons.
Mastinos55and u sittin no where nobody wants to be around you!
RustyhookerDiape r change for a lil one....isle 6. Bring the mop!
And still havent posted up top for the op. But like a lil skinny baby, here you cry. Fake ass karma whore, promo whore, lil wee baby. Hahaha!!!
jayiskwhy are you bringing up old shit.
do you have something to add to OP question that might be helpful?
use name sounds familiar.., oh yeah the promo whore that got negged to troll status?
Dominick77Hooked on Phonics.....helped me TREMENDOUSLY with my reading and comprehending skills..look it up and thank me later bro!
jayiskHelp you get your G.E.D.?
Dominick77Na I actually graduated high school, but have nothing against individuals who got their G.E.D. Much respect for going back and finishing.
jayiskI am all for people bettering themselves.
But there is NO way you can reason that taking a simple test and getting a G.E.D. is anything like the yrs of learning and social interaction one gets from an actual high school diploma.
RustyhookerWhich part of phonics stumped you? Or did i need to use smaller words?
Dominick77Nothing particularly stumped me, but you, however seemed confused. The OP clearly asked his question about opinions on frontloading EQ. Then you ask "what exactly do you need know?" It's pretty clear what OP was asking, but you seemed confused. I understand clearly what he was asking, you on the other hand...
RustyhookerSo basically youre merely the sidekick here. Good for a one liner and thats about all. Which clearly depicts your character and flaws. You failed to stand alone and give advice so went for the cheap gaffaw.
Its like your earning karma via posting pictures. Kindergarden with a crayon drawing but you got that pretty silver star sticker and get to sit front row next to the teacher. No character. Just a fizzle of what could have been that went right to the trash. Lol
"What exactly do you need to know". The op posted an open question thats got literally hundreds of prior posts and answers. Had the op however wanted to dial in an advanced cycle, thats the exactly do you need to know part. Had you been educated enought, you would see those flaws which required more info. But as i stated, your placement was simply a silver star, crayons, and teachers pet.
Dominick77If you say so bro. After all, you are EXP and MUST KNOW EVERYTHING. Just like how you knew about aspirin thinning your blood an all....
RustyhookerSo, since you couldnt properly an OP on his forum youre here to still cry over your spilt milk. Again showing your lack of character.
Youre lvl 2 and couldnt even attempt a reply to the op. Are you sure you shouldnt just go back to posting gear pix for karma? Silver stars included!
jayiskGive this member a "Participation Trophy!"
Obv. another oversensitive snowflake. Check your estrogen levels cupcake.
I am not seeing how bringing up a past discussion about aspirin is helping the OP make a decision about front loading EQ bro.
Whats the point in starting a fire dude?
Sorry to bother you man.
RustyhookerSo the questions were too hard? So you just wanted to be spoonfed? You asked about frontloading yet looking at the other replies, it seems noone else knows how. Strange....
Mastinos55rusty ur avatar says all we not in the army man slow ur role loosin over 300 karma points was not enough???
u should go more often to gym !
Dude your on a power trip calm down. Im just trying to have a casual conversation and your getting all serious. If you dont want to talk to me then just leave the thread. Your just looking for conflict man grow up.