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Hey Guys
What do you think about 3-4 weeks of Anadrol for contest prep? I never used Anadrol, but i'v read it keeps the muscle fool even at a calorie deficit. Should i stack the Anadrol to my Test P, Tren A, Mast cycle? At what doses?
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Why you need anadrol now mate?
buzeboIt was an idea i got from reading alot.
buzeboOk Guys, new plan
The Mast P started to eat my hair, i'v been running it for 3 weeks now. I will Drop Mast P now and add Anavar @60mg
Then 2 weeks before the contest i will add:
700mg Mast P (i should still get good results even though its only 2 weeks out)
40mg Winny
So now:
700mg Test P
535.5mg Tren H
60mg Anavar
2 weeks out:
700mg Test P
535.5mg Tren H
60mg Anavar
+40mg Winny
+700mg Mast P
I think you are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. Focusing way to much on tiny little details about the cycle which isn't going to bring home the trophy. It is your conditioning/diet and what you end up doing for your peak week prep. I am going to assume you have those dialed in and that is why you are flopping around with you cycle. This should have been all planned out well in advance, but I think you realize that now. Like they say, "failure to plan is a plan to fail." Stick with a simple cut mix eod and forget about this var and winni stuff and get focused back on your diet/training/cardio. You don't need to go overboard with compounds for physique. I hope you are putting this much fuss into your diet and training.lol
buzeboIam a perfectionist by natur, so i want it all dialed in like my training and my diet. I'v cut as natural the last 10 years and trained the same amount of time, so iam confident in those two things.
I just want to get the best out of it and i think adding one more DHT is not a bad idea. I need one more compound to dry me out a bit, since iam not gona use diaretics or something crazy. Also I'm not gona use Clen or ECA, since my mental health is more important to me.
Masteron P has been aswesome! Physically and mentally just great. The only part that sucks is my hairloss, which started after 3 weeks. So my idea is to run it two weeks, i think thats a fair deal. But 2 weeks of Mast P is probally not perfect, its just not enough time - thats why i planed to add Winstrol at a lowdose @40mg to compensate the short amount of time i run Masteron P.
For Cardio i do 1h of fasted (BCAA only) slow walking up and down a hill.
I hope you get what iam trying to say as english is not my native language, obviously :-D
PS: if i just could give you guys +rep for helping me but i think i dont have enough Karma to thumbs up.
You should have a look at this. there some natural ways to help dry out.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/peak-week-prep-strategy
buzeboThanks bro. About to read it.
Great even carb loading. I was allways wondering how its done properly and planned on reading about it next week and here we go you post it. Thanks alot mate.
I will test-carbload next week and see how much i need to make me look full, but not bloated. Do you think Winstrol can counter too much carbs? Lets say if for some reason the usuall amount of carbs that worked, doesnt work two days prior and i bloat, would running Winstrol counter that?ยจ
What do you think about creatine? I never thought about it, because iam pretty sure all the water retention from creatine happends in the muscle.
Winni isn't used for carb loading and will do nothing for you if you spillover. In fact there isn't much you can do if you spillover so that is why you don't do it in the first place. Better safe than sorry.
I'll run creatine on cycle but not during prep. Creatine won't cause subq water but if you get some cheaper creatine the additives in can cause water retention, so once again better safe than sorry and drop it during prep.
buzeboI didnt want to say Winny is used for carb loading. I ment IF i happen to spillover, could me running Winny help to fight it. But i guess no, as you answered it allready.
Do you think 2 weeks of Mast P at 700mg and Winny at 40mg will cause visible improvements? I can hardly image it wouldnt.
I wouldn't even bother with the winni, that is why we have mast now. I don't see the winni doing much for you here. I would rather back down the dose of mast and run longer going into the show. Two weeks is a pretty short time frame. I wouldn't be comfortable doing that.
buzeboHmm, iam eager to throw in some Winny action, why would you not? I have a bottle of like 80 tabs @10mg left so thats why i thought it would be a good timing, as iam not gona use it any other time for a long time.
Winni has gone the way of the dinosaur. It is an outdated drug in most of the bodybuilding world. Much better alternatives out there. Mast being one of them. Have I used it.,....yes. Will I ever use it again.....no. Just because you have some is not a good reason to use it. I would just toss it.
buzeboNow i'v never heard that about Winny, intresting. Can you go more into depth why it is outdated?
My friend is also competing, he is using almost the same cycle as mine, but added NPP @700mg while cutting. Do you think thats a good idea? Will he be bloated with NPP at this dose, or at any dose?
I used anadrol before a holiday where I needed to look great, I was around 10% so no where near contest standards but I ran anadrol for 12 days at 50 ED before work out to the day of the holiday. I was looking a little flat from dieting and afterwards it added what seemed like an inch everywhere. It was insane, no dreaded bloat anywhere even face, just what seemed like pure size which was obviously water.
I really have no clue on these things and I wasn't doing it for a completion and as Mack said usually it's best not to experiment during a prep.
Same I did it like 2 summers ago for right around the same amount of time and damn did it do me right. Filled me out like crazy no subq bloat all the water went straight into the muscle. I was dry and hard looking, crazy vascular and full. Man I haven't looked that good since lol. Really haven't cut hard since either though. Hopefully this summer I can surpass that look with the cut I have planned.
buzeboGreat insight bro, thanks. I cant stand the bloated face. I have a maskulin face and the bloat ruins that, iam glad you had no problems with that. I will add Anadrol for 10 days now and see what it does. Then stop it and if i was satisfied i will add it again 2 weeks before prep.
But i got a "problem", i want to add winny at 40mg too. And possibly anavar at 60mg.
So:
Anadrol 50mg
Anavar 60mg
Winny 40mg
Not high doses at all and i will clean my liver with NAC so it shouldnt be a problem. What do you guys think?
I'd definitely do a test run early. What class are you competing in? Honestly man if my friend who's a pro and steps on stage at 245lbs shredded at 5'9 only uses 30mgs of anavar cause that's what Dave Palumbo told him back whenever he hired him for prep i doubt you need double unless you're bigger then my friend and or also a pro. Fyi, his doses of test and tren are lower then yours when he was going into the Pittsburgh pro. 600mgs of test, 350mgs tren a and only the last either 1 or 2 weeks did he up the tren to 100mgs ed. This was his exact cycle for an an ifbb pro steeping on stage at 245lbs at 3% bf. 600mgs test c ( I didn't have prop for him) 600mgs mast e, again no mast p, 350mgs tren a until either 1-2 weeks out when he upped it to 100mgs ed, 50mgs winny and 30mgs var. he also tore up his shoulder during the prep and couldn't train for a few weeks and went against doctors orders and started training again a few weeks out. And still placed 3rd. So I hope your close to the same stats to be running a heavier cycle then a pro bb, really hope this isn't for men's physique either, if so you could have gotten away with half this shif.
Noones asked, what's your stats?
buzeboI usually dont run that much gear bro. I blasted on 600mg Test E and 400mg Deca. Sometimes i added Dbol. Its just that iam in panic mode lol. Its my first contest.
Actually i wrote my Tren dose wrong, i use Tren H 1ml a day, which is 76,5mg not 100mg. So my actuall Tren dose is 535.5mg / week. I mixed it up sorry.
Weight class in pounds.. i think thats 195 or 200. But thats so low, i might aswell jump up one weight class to 205-210. Iam allready pretty low in BF and would need to lose too much i think. Iam at arround... 10-12% today.
1% are 2 pounds for me. I will aim for 5%. I compete in physique.
The shitty thing is masteron kills my hair and i dont want to risk it to be honest, so i thought instead of upping my Mast P dose (350mg now), i rather add Winstrol - with Minoxidil (Rogaine) it doesnt cause my hair to fall out. That Rogaine shit is like magic lol.
I use 0.5mg Arimidex EOD, the funny part is i cant go any higher in dose as i get joint pain and i look flat. I think i aromatize very poorly. Should i still up the Arimidex dose when iam 1-2 weeks out, even though i look flat?
I'm not commenting on this any further.
buzeboNeed some more quality infos guys. I know there are some pros here that know their shit.
my idea after your cycle you will be dry enough its better if you use dbol 20 days before the contest prep . it will keep your muscles fuller .
buzeboAre you trolling me? Last time i used dbol i blew the f* up and gained 30 pounds in 4 weeks lol.
Keeps the muscles full lol. I just realised i used fool :-D
Is the dbol gave you 30lb and you look for androl, then you are smart guy , about dbol 10 days before the contest I did some guys did it . I don't go to contest . So just an advice from what I saw . Anyway follow makwa he will help you .
buzeboDbol gave me the bloat of hell lol. Iam reading alot into Anadrol and it seems to give you a bloat aswell, even though its a DHT and does not convert to estrogen. Can anyone speak ont hat?
If you haven't used adrol before and know how you respond to it, don't experiment with it during a prep.
buzeboThats makes sense but iam loosing too much volumne. Weird part is strength stays the same, but iam sure i lost too much water/glyco in the muscle. I still got 6 weeks untill prep. So i thought about adding it now, so if things go wrong i can allways drop it after 2,3 weeks.
Of course you are going to look flat, you are on low carbs. Adrol won't fill you out unless you give it the carbs it needs. No point in taking it now hoping to fill out and you sure the hell don't want to be taking it for 6 wks. You are prepping to look good for the 10 minutes you will be on stage not for what you look like 6 wks out. Who cares what you look like now, as long as your conditioning is coming along you will fill back out and be fine once you carb load those last few days.
buzeboSo your suggestion is not to take it?
Iam cutting, but in reality its a recomp. I got 10 pounds to lose in 6 weeks, should be easy. I will probally put on 2-3 pounbds of muscle.
Then i should skip anadrol and instead add anavar?
I have no clue what you have going on here so I am really not in a position to recommend anything until I get complete details of your cycle. If you are thinking of dropping 10lbs of fat and gaining 3lbs of muscle in 6 weeks I can tell you that isn't going to happen though.
buzeboI thought the same but the tren seems to do magic. I got me 4 dexa scans for a low price, and they show a steady loss of fat and gain of LBM... i wouldnt have believed it myself so i cant blame you.
Cycle is:
Test P 700mg
Tren A 700mg
Mast P 400mg
Now ill add an oral, depending on the feedback i get.