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New to working out and hgh--

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So I posted on here a while back around a month ago that I have been a heavy drinker for the past 10 years and not working out at all .....well I have quit drinking for the past eight months entirely and now I have hired a personal trainer and been going to the gym for almost 2 weeks three times per week. I also have a good supply 4 to 6 months of HGH which will be my first time really using it the correct way while working out and not drinking . Given my stats above all of my weight is in my stomach and face nothing on my arms or legs.

I am giving the workouts 100 percent and I am committed to this. How much growth should I be taking per day to get the maximum results? I am just trying to become leaner ....get rid of the beer gut and and I am committed to this. How much growth should I be taking per day to get the maximum results. I am just trying to get rid of the beer gut and fat face.

My eating habits aren't perfect.... but I look at it like this. I'm no longer drinking anymore which I had tons of sugar and calories between the Coke and the whiskey and now I've introduced a strenuous workout regiment into my daily weekly routine which did not occur .......also on top of that the help of some Growth..... with that said I'm not a rocket scientist but one with think I have to lose some weight ?

eclipse627's picture

I have been tracking with the Fitbit and burning 3000 avg calories a day with just normal activity with work and without workouts

eclipse627's picture

So your saying that the hgh could be actually gaining weight or working against me? All I have ever heard is it eats fat is why I started to begin with. I am however dumbfounded bubbly seeing any results. I know it won't happen overnight but damn.

I quit drinking which was a massive amount of sugar and calories a day

I'm eating the same as I used too. (Not anymore)

I am working out regularly with a trainer doing high heart rate activity for 30-40 mins 3 times a week

How can't I be looosing anything at all? Could it be the hgh?

DragonDog's picture

If your diet ain't right and you take in too much carbs and any processed sugars, and given your starting point, you will end up getting fatter from the increased insulin resistance. Diabetes is a real possibility.

eclipse627's picture

So your saying that the hgh could be actually gaining weight or working against me? All I have ever heard is it eats fat is why I started to begin with. I am however dumbfounded bubbly seeing any results. I know it won't happen overnight but damn.

I quit drinking which was a massive amount of sugar and calories a day

I'm eating the same as I used too. (Not anymore)

I am working out regularly with a trainer doing high heart rate activity for 30-40 mins 3 times a week

How can't I be looosing anything at all? Could it be the hgh?

DragonDog's picture

My doctor calls HGH miraculous, but you need to research the living shit out before using it. It has multiple sides that need to be addressed. Two major concerns are increased insulin resistance and inhibited T4 production. So, it is a possibility for HGH to increase body fat via lowered metabolism and HGH facilitated Type II diabetes. You need bloodwork to know for sure what's going on. You could use a cheap blood glucose monitor to know if your insulin is functioning well enough to clear the glucose in your blood from your carb intake. If you had been abusing your body for years then jumped into HGH, it is very likely you already had a high level of insulin resistance and are now worsening it with the HGH.

eclipse627's picture

77 was tested level

DragonDog's picture

+1, if I could, for looking out and checking your glucose levels.

eclipse627's picture

I'm going to pick up a glucose meter at Walmart in a minute..... what is an ideal range ? That being said, shouldn't I be able to determine if my body is actually resisting the insulin by these results?

DragonDog's picture

Not necessarily, your insulin levels may be increasing to compensate for the resistance. Eventually, the pancreas craps out from the workload, the point of no return, Type I at this point. Best bet is to test your insulin levels. That aside, reference your glucose levels, anything above 100 to 125 after fasting overnight indicates pre-diabetes and anything above 126 is diabetes, so your 77 looks good. If you ever see 200 regardless of when you last ate then you probably have diabetes. Regardless, just watch the glucose levels and if it starts increasing then it probably means your pancreas is having a harder time providing enough insulin to clear the glucose from your blood, i.e., insulin resistance. If you can, I recommend getting a full hormone work up to include insulin levels. I had type 2, but I managed to stop taking meds by eliminating almost all added sugars and eating a realistic carbohydrates intake based on my activity. Surprisingly, my energy levels became sustained and I stopped spiking and crashing. Good news, bad news scenario. I have a permanent borderline condition that requires constantly watching my diet, the good news. The bad news is not much room for cheat meals. Again, I recommend going to an endocrinologist and tell them that you want to get back in shape and you want to know your hormonal baseline.

You can get stronger and improve your health. Stay the path!

Makwa's picture

Lots of good advice below. I would listen to what they are saying.

SenseiMiagi's picture

You should be taking 0 gh per day. You havent even developed a base yet. Training and good eating should be done for years before even thinking about PED's.

Youngshadow's picture

Cardio and diet is the key for losing weight. Do not start taking HGH without proper diet and training. You've been lifting weights for 3 months only! You need 3-4 years of training at least.
My advice is to do cardio early in the morning before your breakfast. Personally when i am cutting and trying to lose weight..I adjust my diet accordingly. Track your diets and eat fish and chicken. Avoid process food and sugar drinks. Drink a lot of water. Do twice a day cardio. Add asparagus as veggie to your diet and take your protein through fish and chicken. Also beef make me fuller, and my opinion is that is not the ideal source of protein when trying to lose wieght.

XmadXscientist's picture

You should save the growth it's not the miracle it's made out to be, very subtle results. It's better suited for someone who's been at this for 10-20 years beating their body up and in need of some help with tendon recovery from all the abuse. Since you're just getting started my recommendation would be to start tracking calories . I use an app called MyFitnessPal, it has almost everything you can possibly buy on this earth to eat and only takes about five minutes a day to put the food in. Be real honest with yourself and eat like normal for a week or two while tracking it. This will let you know how much you're eating and then you can use a tde calculator to figure out how much you need per day and adjust your intake from there. If you do that and keep working out 3 to 4 times per week you'll start seeing good results. There's tons of stuff on here about eating in training that can help you out.

muscleman1687's picture

Totally agreed!

J_Shmoney's picture

Give yourself time to heal from all that abuse you've done. I'd say at least a year or two of not drinking plus training and eating right. I'm 5'8 and without muscle I'm like 155 with a decent amount of body fat. I think at 5'7 170 you're kinda heavyset. Lose some of that over the year or two. Just do that and learn for now. This place is great to learn about tons of stuff not just gear. Good luck bro