EPO
Ok guys before I started loading my 30,000 IU of EPO I started 1 wk of:
Iron
Vit E and C
Folic Acid
Daily Vit
B12
Fish Oil
Aspirin
Resveratrol
I take these once a day everyday. I did sub q 3,000 iu EOD. My HGB was 44 when I started and it didnt budge now that I am done. Im thinking either I did something wrong or shit was bunk. The only think that I can think of that I did not follow directions on was getting my Ferriten levels checked, other than that I did everything. I did alot of research and followed all direction. I got my EPO from Melanotanpeptide. They are a good website and I have made a few orders from them. They are very reliable but Im thinking the E is not so good. Unless someone can chime in and tell me if I did something wrong. I have another 30,000 iu coming from another website that I was going to use for maintenence but its looking like I'll have to load one more time. So what do you guys think?
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looking for a reliable epo source- please pm me if you know one
Did you ever find one?
depfife30,000 iu with most athletes should increase your hematocrit level 2.5%..(a very modest increase) This should last about 3 months before returning to natural levels. You probably would not feel much different with that increase, but your endurance should increase somewhat. Your 44% was either a lab error, or bad EPO possibly. Once EPO is injected, it takes at least 8 days to mature into mature red blood cells, to get an accurate count.
Looking for reliable EPO source. I am in Vancouver. MSG me please
Do you still have an EPO source. I'm in California.
yeah EPO is hard to come by this days.. All my sources dissapeared and other upped the price .
also looking for a reliable source can someone PM me thanks
You have to be careful with EPO. I have use it about 5 times. I have Lab reports to show proof,but I used 4 vials of 4000 iu and my Hematocrit levesl rose from 43.9 to 51.8. Maybe it's the way I inject the EPO. My first pin was 1000 iu and then pinned EOD 500iu. I used ERITROMAX and EPREX. Check your HGB levels weekly at the same LAB and the same day to get an idea how much it raises per vial (4000iu in my case). When your levesl reach 50 I advice taking 1 aspirin (81mg) daily to prevent strokes and Heart attacks. Maybe injecting too much at a time might not work, since EPO gives a signal to the bone marrow to produce red blood cells ( my guess) I have been taking EPO under observation of a Dr. of my Country Cycling Team (as you know by now all big teams used EPO and other heavy stuff). If you want to get the real thing you can google for ACTOVEGIN (it is called instant EPO in our cycling group) it acts right away. This is my daily supplement intakes :
Iron
B12 Shot (1 per month) NEUROBION 25,000iu
Folic Acid
Omega 3
Aspirin
DHEA
Multivitamin
Gucosamine
2 Protein Shakes (30Gms each)
Vitamin C 1Gm
Glad to put my 2 Cents in what I can. Good Luck!!!
depfifeKronos,
Are you sure your dosage was 4000 iu each? 16,000 iu should only raise your Hematocrit 2% at best, in most people. 51.8% is a safe level. Plus be sure to stay as hydrated as possible.
Why would you take DHEA?
how much iron etc was you taking?
About how much does it cost to check your levels at the lab each visit?
I found a great supplier or original Eprex, after many let downs on a few sites .
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It's become my choice of brand, try it, just one word of caution; get your Hematocrit levels checked before use and after about 50 000 Iu's,
Mine have raised to 48%,which is great for me,
52-55%is pushing it and at danger levels.
Also stay with Branded products like Eprex,
The body can build a resistance to this stuff
could you send me your supplier. I have scoured the internet but not sure how you tell what is legit and what is garbage. Thanks - [email protected]
I'm trying to source this now, ideally original Eprex. The 4000iu single dose packs seem like the easiest way to go. One 6 pack takes care of the 2 week load, a second takes care of maintenance.
Is it possible for somebody to please send me a supplier, I just need someone reasonably priced and reliable.
Eprex is $1500 for 60 000 iu's, seems pretty expensive to me.
What is the theory behind using the EPO, if you are not a distance athlete? What are your goals?
I don't follow you. The gain is in your body's ability to carry oxygen, which results in large gains for athletes e.g. runners/cyclists/swimmers etc. It has little relevance for weight lifters. Besides improvement in running performance I have noticed that I have not been ill (cold etc) for a very long time. It also makes veins much more visible and has enlarged my thing down there ;)
In my experience, iron is an important supplement since RBC production places high demands on ferritin reserves. Vit C is used to help iron absorption. Folic acid, B6 and B12 are also worth taking as well.
Asprin or Trental are your insurance when doping at high levels (55% RBC and above) and don't need to be used otherwise.
Get yourself a cetrifuge to monitor hematocrit levels although you'd have to a very large amount of EPO for it to be dangerous.
Ferritin levels shouldn't really matter unless your severely anemic or you're taking 24,000iu in one sitting. Overall healthy diet or not, you should see your hemoglobin rise along with your hermatrocrite. If it doesn't rise then its not real. Every 12,000iu's will raise your hermatrocite 1%
ferritin does matter. if you don't have a high ferritin, your iron will probably be depleted before you reach your goal hematocrit. At this point your epo will stop having an effect and you will be wasting time and money.
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I used the same source as well. The results are very good for me. How did your second loading go?
make sure you supplement with iron, iron is what will bind with all of the new RBC's that you are going to create, if you do not, the hemaglobin will bind with zinc and thus will not carry oxygen, and you would have wasted your money, supplement for a month prior!
Hi, I am very interested in how you got on and on your sources. I had a very good source for EPO that's just gone down. Please contact me: [email protected]
The stuff wasnt bunk either I just didnt have my ferriten to optimal levels. They should be around 100 before you even put a needle in your belly. Ive learned alot since this cycle. There are also alot cheaper places then these guys.
How far did 30,000iu's take your hemocratic level too?
Half is for loading the other half should be fore maintenence depending on your goals. I like 52-53ish. Then its maintenence dosing after that.
Sure but roughly how much epo did it take to get from where you were to where you are now. The reason I ask is because my Hemocratic level is naturally high "49.7". I would like to get it to 53 but obviously I do not want to go too high. I have heard that 12,000ius raises it about 1% so I would need around 30,000ius using that rational. What says you? How much epo did it take to raise your hemo level 1%? Thanks.
That sounds not too far off for me. I was at 37% and now I'm at about 55%. The first 10% came with about 80,000iu. The last 7-8% took a bit more. Maintenance is about 6-7000iu a week. As other have said, iron supplementation is crucial.
Also, get a centrifuge to monitor RBC. I bought a Ames Microspin from Ebay and it's dead easy. Don't forget to take blood after sitting for 15 mins, for consistency.
only thing i've done is bioyetin or however it is spelled. the mexican stuff. my hematocrit levels shot through the roof. I'd love to have a new source. My source is soooo expensive. [email protected]
did you ever find a cheaper source? I am looking for a reliable source that isn't going to break the bank. Thanks.
goodjob bumping this 2 year old tread lol
i have found 2 sources that are very scheap... google and search is your friend took me 1 day to find it another 2 days to confirm it was good.
I have ordered there and are waiting now... slow shipping I will report here ones i recieved it
bump again. I found some good priced sources. just started dosing so we'll see if they're legit. friend me for info
Also new here and looking for EPO source. Can you please dm me if possible? TY!!
We have all spent hours doing research etc. EPO is harder to source than other substances but you can still find it...So do your homework first (you will find sources) and contribute and surely more guys will be willing to help you.
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Sorry for the random request I'm new on here and just looking for a reliable Epo source, would you be of any help?
Hello. Looking for a reliable source. Thanks.
sent you a FR, bro. anticipated thx!