posted Wed, 02/17/2016 - 23:56
5150
+ 1 TRT and gyno
ad
Im starting to develop gyno on a high trt dosage. Doc thinks its ok and wants to let it normal out. Honestly Im getting very self concious about this. Especially when in the gym and its noticable in a shirt. Ive started working out at night to avoid people. What would you recommend? Should i get an anti e from a source here to help? Try to cut more and lose more fat? My doc has me at 400mg test weekly now.
- Bookmark
- 1
- 0
Dumbell001People, if your doc would rather keep your total t at a certain level, vs how you feel, get a new doc!! Some people feel better at higher levels, vs some who feel better at a slightly lower. Everyone is different
Dumbell001Go to everyday subcutaneous injections. My doc first started me on 2 a week injections. But the burning and itching was too intense. So to keep the peaks under control, we went to everyday injections. I use an insulin syringe. .5 ml, 31 gauge. Man, when I first started, I was using a ton of arimidex. Now, I use a sliver I cut off of a 1 mg tab to keep the water at bay.
I promise you, if you go to sub q plus every day, itll be night and day.
And, no, it's no biggie injecting everyday. First thing in the morning, i inject. It's my routine. And best thing, is I've been able to increase my dose big time. Hope this helps.
Lol, normalize. That shit is going to normalize into a B or C cup.
Area-1255OP should get on Tamoxifen tabs + Andractim gel pronto!!!
400mg...wow. Being a noob myself, I can't imagine doing that with no real anti-estrogen support.
You may want to rethink your strategy here man.
You need a malpractice attorney!!!
You need an AI or SERM most likely. Some guys I know on TRT swear by DIM but I think that may depend on your TRT dosages.
Wow that's a monster dose
when I first started TRT in Miami I was on 200 a week of test c. I had to take an AI right away. I took aromestan 25mg once a week. Now I am on my 4 cycle. I'm doing 800mg of test e, 150mg of deca, with aromestan every other day. My wife and I moved to Greece and the price of gear is a joke. I can buy this stuff for like $1
So you are saying he did not prescribe you Arimidex? Is the doctor working out of a van or is his office in the bathroom of a gym?
This isn't even a standard TRT does, a typical protocol starts out at 200mg test c, once per week, an AI 2 x week, and HCG once a week. This doesn't sound like any doc who knows anything about TRT.
Did you get any blood work done to see where your test and estro levels are? The dosages shouldn't have been changed until you got some bloods done. Find another GP. You don't just up the dose because you feel sluggish, that could be anything, even low O2 blood levels, thyroid, whatever.
I agree with everything you said, except 200 mg a week as a starting point. That's high for most doctors and endos. Many start with the gel crap and then move to 100 my every two weeks (which is idiotic but standard). After bloods they can move you up. I'm 150 mg every week, but it took over a year for my doc to get me there.
I'm going from my own experience. Since I initially tested at 119 they went with 200mg for me. Now I test near 1000.
My initial test for total test including free test was a 32
Glad it's working for you. Most docs won't keep you near 1000, but some will.
Brother, these lads below have summed it up.
400mg/week is a true cycle that can add incredible amounts of muscle, but it comes with it's issues.
True TRT is much, much lower per week, like 100mg - 200mg Test Cyp, tops.
As they've stated, you'll need an AI. Get on the source board and order one, ASAP.
Or, this thread is total bullshit and you're taking us for a ride. Even if it is, it's a good thread to keep because future men surfing the forums to learn will see that 400mg/week is a fucking cycle, not a TRT dose!
And brother, if this is indeed real, dude, get an AI, get your estrodial checked, and get your TRT dose down to 150-200mg/week, tops. Holy shit.
" True TRT is much, much lower per week, like 100mg - 200mg Test Cyp, tops. "
I talked my doc into a little above the 200,...........now I have to buy a vault to hide it in. But yes, 200 mg/week tends to be about the max.
ETA: I'm over 60, so the doctor doesn't think I would be saving up for a cycle.
Old age it's a trip,......... and a fall.
@KMC, you're a hoot! (That's what you are.) I appreciate your candidness, as well as your humor!
Personally, I'm self "prescribed" TRT, so I've started super low TRT at 100mg test cyp per week. I feel like I can kick it up to 150mg per week to see how that effects me, but at 100mg per week, the changes have been worth it. Slow and steady works, and that's why we preach it.
As for being old, I'm 39 this summer. For the first time in my 30s, brother, this low dose T has me feeling like a man again. I'm not "high" or "euphoric." I'm just HEALED. I've lived hard. I work hard, I play hard, I lift hard. I've gotten used to being perpetually sore. Not anymore. At this small "replacement dose," it's medicine for my condition. I don't have anymore energy, or enthusiasm, etc, but I'm simply healed. As a result, I feel like I'm kicking more ass in life than I was. What a ride it is.
Its very real. I wanted to upload pics of what i got and my script info. But it doesnt let me unless i put a source on here yet this is from the pharmacy so no "source" here to submit it under.
I asked her for the highest amount she could give for trt to keep me at the upper ranges and not the bottom. She has me taking 200mg twice a week. Im looking at a few sources now but i want to stay with one from within the EU and not just someone that ships to the EU. I dont want an issue with getting a package caught and I get in trouble.
You put eroids as the source.
Ah ok perfect. Thanks!
400 is cycle dose, docs a fucking tart! Is this lovely doc prescribing you an ai?
" 400 is a cycle "
BINGO
Something ain't adding up.
Nope. I asked her about one but she said not now. Just checked the tenderness and i need to go back in 5 weeks.
400 mg per week....wow! That was my first cycle I ever did.....maybe u should get your doc to join eroids so she can learn about trt doses!......get your hands on an ai bro...
There's you're problem! No ai which you need equeals high estrogen and why you we're feeling the way you are. You better reduce that dose, get on a ai asap. 400 a week for trt is not fucking safe bro. This also tells me she's not checking your estrodial levels smfh.
I asked about one. So guess ill just go find a source and just order an ai that way then.
You need you're estrogen checked but it's needs to be the estrodial test not total estrogen test. I'm telling thats the problem.
Geez what endo gives 400mg a week? What's your numbers like on that. I was on 200 every 3 weeks and they just adjusted my dosage to 100 every other week. If I was you check your estro on blood work and hop on an AI if it's high
Its a GP not endo. I was on 200mg a week. Felt sluggish and tired all the time from other things. I still had room in my upper level so she increased it.
You may have been feeling sluggish due to high estro. It's just irresponsible of your doc to be giving you a cycle dose for trt. Now you are going to have to run even higher doses when blasting. 200 every other week or 100 a week is a trt dose. Just my .02
Get your glands removed or ask for an anti estrogen IMHO.