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When is the best time during cycle to introduce proviron. I'm running 600mg test e with 40 ed dbol. I keep getting different schools of thought but all input it really welcome. Thanks

ashop's picture

You could add it at any time but ideal would be day one of the cycle.

Danavar's picture

Proviron gives me insane sex drive, if you keep the daily dose low 25-50 then you can double down before sex... that will put some lead in your pencil.

Makwa's picture

I like to add in the provi when I seem to hit a plateau during my cycle. We all reach that point in a cycle when it just seems like things have come to a standstill. That is when I hit the provi to free up some test and get the scale moving again. Some cycles I may not need it all and others I'll have to add it in earlier rather than later. Last cycle I ran my weight was bobbing around the same for about 2 wks and seemed like I had hit a wall. Added provi in at wk 10 and gained an additional 4 lbs over the next four weeks. Don't need to add it at a predetermined time period. Use your body to tell you when you need it, if at all.

Smevans13.'s picture

Yep I agree... and it also will put more lead in your pencil!

RangerVet's picture

Be careful with dianabol. You need to know what your blood pressure is before taking and a hour or 2 afterwards. At 39 I cannot tolerate it again because of severely high bp levels. Just a warning to anyone who reads this. Stay as safe as possible. If you don't know.. your playing a dangerous game.

jc24863811's picture

Cheers pal taken that on board. Nice one

stairmaster's picture

I personally use it when I do a bulking cycle with deca and oxy or dbols included. It helps me to keep my E2 a bit lower and it increase my libido. It also helps that I look less bloated and it increases my free test which is great cause so I can dosage the test lower . But like the two vets below me already mentiones keep care bout your cholesterol.
Do regular bloods and stay safe!

Danavar's picture

does it ping your cholesterol as bad as anavar or dbol?

Sam I Am's picture

X2 the blood work is important. If your gonna do it be as safe as possible.

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Sam I Am's picture

I personally wouldn’t run both at the same time because both of those will jack your cholesterol. Out of the two I prefer proviron personally. It doesn’t raise my blood pressure like dbol.

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herpjunkie111's picture

Very true as well, especially for us older chaps, we don't need to clog our pipes no more than we already have.

I feel like 2 grams of niacin per day helps, if you can handle the niacin, it's a beast to get a custom to, but it does help control cholesterol and seems to aid in blood flow. I take alot of vitamin c along side it as an antioxidant to destroy the free radicals released by the niacin. This is all based on research though, don't ask me for proof as I'm kinda just running on faith on this one, lol.

Johnny Bravo's picture

Do u take the niacin all at once or spread out? I heard all at once works better and the extended release doesn’t work as well as the instant release.

Also heard vitamin E binds to LDL and protects them from oxidation. I was reading up on that stuff for my mom

herpjunkie111's picture

I spread it out, I take 500mg at a time and always after a good meal. And yes, use the instant release, the slow release is said to not have rhe same results.

If you take 2 grams of niacin at once I bet you won't do that again, lol. That would be like snorting 5 big lines of wasabi. Just a half gram is bad enough when you first start taking it, it's gonna burn bro.

Lucky for you I'm a nice guy or I would tell you sure, go ahead, take it all at once, lmao.

Bearded_muscle's picture

I take three grams every night all at once after dinner. At this point it feels like 500 mgs did when I started. But that tolerance goes down QUICK. Just missing one day will have the next days dose flush my skin noticeably more. At this point I find the flushing and mild itchiness (same as you get from beta alanine) kind of pleasant. It feels really good to rub my face lol.
Work up to that dose! Three grams was the dose that showed elevated hdl and decreased ldl in the studies. Lower doses than that only affected ldl numbers.

Johnny Bravo's picture

3 grams and feeling nice to rub ur face lol? Sounds more like ecstasy than niacin. Damn I hate when I mix those up lol. I think around 3 grams is what I would take but without the tolerance I’d hop right into the cold shower and suffer. Thanks for the info I’ll let my mom know to work up to a respectable dose and be sure not to miss any or prepare to feel the wrath

Bearded_muscle's picture

No doubt. I take it after my biggest meal of the day which is dinner. It slows digestion a bit to lessen the bite. Also if I turn red nobody sees but my girl because I’m in bed at that point.

herpjunkie111's picture

I know what you mean, it seriously only takes missing one dose for the flush to return for me too.

Alright, I'll kick it up a notch - under protest though, lol.

Johnny Bravo's picture

I told my mom to take them for her cholesterol, BP, and triglycerides and she was like “isn’t that the stuff that made u turn all red when u were trying to pass ur drug tests when u were younger?! No way I’m taking that” Lol. I took em by the handful I’m no stranger to the burn. Like sunburn and poison ivy at the same time

herpjunkie111's picture

I wasn't even aware you could take it for drug tests. What does it do, push metabolites from weed or other substances out of your system faster?

Johnny Bravo's picture

Since thc is fat soluble and niacin clears cholesterol and triglycerides it’s thought to help. Also is a vasiodialator so the toxins clear out faster. Supposively works but never did for me

herpjunkie111's picture

Running the long ester test, and dbol as a kicker, I'd say the last 6 weeks - using it to dry out and harden up a bit. With the water retention from the dbol I can't see running it up front.... That's my 2 pennies.

Danavar's picture

does proivron bind to aromatase or does it just generally dry you out being a DHT

Sam I Am's picture

I agree.

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