posted Sat, 10/06/2018 - 03:01
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No more alcohol. What can I take for a buzz?
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I can’t have any alcohol at his time but would like something that will give me a buzz or something to take the edge off. I took soma one time, but getting a little difficult to find. Any suggestions?
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Enjoy life being sober. I'm at the point of my life where I don't want to be high or drunk, I just want to feel good and normal.
Chasing a buzz landed me in prison for 3 years 9 months. Countless treatment centers. Everyone has had bad things happen to them, I use to think I was terminally unique too. My worst day sober is better than my best day using. When you feel you need to get high, go kill it in the gym. Good luck bro
I made that joke below but I was being lazy I've been hectic.
Nothing mate trust me. Avoid the buzz.
I used to drink and swapped it out for pills, pain meds etc, chronic addiction that has ruined my life and when it came to drugs I've always been straight 180, never touched then boom got hooked on the " buzz' I basically took a year to recover from serotonin syndrome I was basically intellectually disabled from it, just trust me mate fuck the buzz. You really are better off just having a few beers making sure you drink plenty of water and take your kidney and liver ancillaries etc.
Plus once you end up being addicted to alcohol or a certain drug the buzz goes away anyway, it becomes more a case of using it just to feel 'normal' or to function. Which of course you think you are doing well but in reality its anything but..
jayiskAlso once you start messing with different drugs to alter yourself.., regardless of legal status.., 99% of the time you return to your drug/booze of choice.
So much for staying on topic
There’s always glue, gas, dust-off, etc. Huffing will give you a “buzz” and there no alcohol involved. Problem solved!
Lol
Don't be like that sweetie, dry your eyes and come give me a hug.
benadryl should do the trick
Try some of your grannies titty milk, really takes the edge off.
StevebAmericans don't use any of those Australian home remedies
liberty cap season starting now here in Ireland
Ahhhh didn’t think anybody here knew about the liberty caps. Psilocybin semilanceata.
jayiskbeing your avatar means you are a Deadhead its pretty safe to say you would know...lol
Oh yes. Been going to see the dead since the 90s. Had a rough patch with my gf two years ago and we were ready to split up. I brought her to see Dead and company and we dosed with 500 mcg of lsd and we connected in a spiritual way that we never have before. We have been happy ever since. I believe you use more of your brain power on them and lsd. And you connect with people and understand them better. Not a drug you can get addicted to. A true gift to mankind.
Bend and Slaps give one helluva buzz
Honestly ...I have no idea what that means, but I wanted to give it a 'like' coz it seemed so off the wall - kind of like a Banksy but with words.
Its an old school calisthenic that is seldom performed today. My extra dry response to such an absurd question being posing on a bodybuilding forum
Magic mushrooms.
Celestiaxhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/behindtheheadlines/news/2017-1...
I can attest to this, having designed and successfully used a protocol based on Cahart-Harris' studies and also James Fadiman's work.
Psilocybin can (for want of a better word) cure depression (doesnt work for everyone, but does for a massive amount more than anti-d's). Aaaaaand.... it literally works overnight.
Main paper showing 6 month follow up on treatment: https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk:8443/bitstream/10044/1/54802/2/Psilodep_1_...
But just watch this really accessible TED talk to understand what the paper is saying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kfGaVAXeMY
On a side note; Fadiman's global study showed a massive range of benefits to microdosing, from curing cluster headaches to removing period pain!!
Back in the day I used to take a reasonable amount of LSD and other psychedelics recreationally. When I did and especially immediately after I used to feel super “connected” to myself and the world around me. Now I haven’t for a number of years and depression/anxiety/ocd runs deep in my family. I have managed to maintain the strong connection to myself and the world around me although it is more subtle now than before when I was taking psychedelics often. Now I may just be lucky but I have a strong conviction that the psychedelic use in the past has allowed me to move through life and deal with the shit life throws at you without developing some sort of depression or anxiety conditions like the rest of my family - none of who used psychedelics like I did. Obviously there is no proof here it’s just an opinion and a conviction I thought I’d share given where this topic has gone.
Nice!
And no, your anecdote is now firmly rooted considering the more recent studies. If you get a free minute throw your eyes over the TED Talk I shared, Rosalind Watts. Honestly, it pretty much explains what you experienced at the time. If your family have a bad patch, I would recommend sharing the microdosing approach. Risk free (apart from the obvious wrt legality), effective for most. It is, for me at least..... nothing short of magic.
I’ve never microdosed before but I have tried a ketamine protocol before and it worked better than anything I’ve ever done. I have treatment resistant depression as well as ptsd. Ive been a patient at a clinic for almost 2 years and receive infusions as needed after the initial treatment of 3 infusions a week for 2 weeks. The idea is since it is a dissociative it forces your brain into neuroplasticity over repeated treatments. Haven’t had to see the doctor in almost a year since my last treatment.
I’ve never tried micrososing but the ideal dosage is less than what is needed to feel funny. A lot of ppl mess that up. I believe hallucinogens have a huge potential for healing. At least that’s been my experience. Makes me feel grounded and it’s eye opening. I would assume they work in a similar way as ketamine but that’s just my guess
Brilliant, really happy for you. Yeah, Ketamine is an approved treatment for TRD here in Ireland too. Did nothing for me, nor did MDMA (stims like xtc dont work for me despite the psychedelic aspect). A friend of mine did the Ketamine protocol too and saw results for a short period of time before it subsided. So these things are to be viewed as tools.
If you get a chance J, have a look at Fadiman's presentation from late last year to the Psychedelic Science Conference. I took part in this study to trial a protocol using psilocybin. It is a massive study and is ongoing... almost completely self-controlled but the results are nothing short of....insane lol.
Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBgKRyRCVFM
Re: plasticity, the London crew (Cahart Harris) proved it for the first time with their MRI's. Quite literally overnight; different avenues of communication open up with the brain either forced or perhaps selecting to utilise those newer options. I chose not to take the London doses but remained at moderate and progressed to microdosing as a half way house.
All I can say is that it saved my life... literally, and overnight. When you consider that I had TRD and fought it for 30 years... well... shit man, there is nothing else to say as far as I am concerned.
MDMA didn’t work for me either. Psilocybin, dmt, dxm, and lsd worked very well but it was more temporary for me. Maybe would have been different if in a clinical setting or if microdosing was used.
I am a super fast metabolizer of ketamine so it took a while to get the right dosage. I believe I was started at a standard of 60 mg/kg and the doctor had never seen someone more coherent the whole procedure. I was able to talk to a therapist during the procedure which I believe helped reinforce the new pathways but this is an anecdotal hypothesis. At a dose of 120-130 mg/kg I can immediately stand, go to the bathroom, and pay without issue while most patients need to sit for 30 minutes at half the amount regardless of weight. Blood work confirmed this as my liver enzymes were around 450 showing my liver rids myself of it quickly. Such high doses of other compounds would get me high and last a long time which is undesirable for me. I did notice the larger the amount of whatever it is the longer and more beneficial the experience but like I said it’s not for me.
I’ll have to look into what you’ve done it’s interesting to me and may be more effective. Thank you for the info it’s always greatly appreciated
Man oh man! I would end up in a coma!!!
That is an unbelievable level of tolerance. Shows how different we all are right? Suffice to say, Despite it being an effective treatment is not necessarily the right treatment for you. Really interesting.
Yeah the thing about microdosing, is that it is 1 cycle of 10 x eod dosing. So, circa 1 month per cycle, then measure using typical mood/depression assessment scales. Fadiman's microdosing site will allow you to use the assessment, and of course, regardless of which psych you choose, 1 10th of an active dose is the goal which will (when measured correctly) give no traditional psycha effects. So work and play aren't adversely affected.
Good luck with whatever route you travel next! And thanks for sharing you experiences, really interesting stuff. Cheers J.
I'm sure the Daily Telegraph is a trustworthy source bro lol.
Not necessarily where I would get health advice from either but I am a firm believer in the power within them. And unless you are a rare breed they are far to powerful to abuse. True story tho for what its worth, my wife said she has never seen smile as much as I did on Shrooms.
Once and only once. Never again
Don't get me wrong.. I've had my share of shrooms and enjoyed them for the most part. I just wouldn't be looking forward to doing it every few days or every other week or whatever (kinda what the OP is looking for) lol. Maybe a once a year thing.
StevebHave you heard of Jan Irvin? He got Joe Rogan into DMT and now he seems to be against it.
I actually really like that one. Somewhat of a rare find unless you have a good source for Mimosa Hostilis bark.
It isn't hard to find. There is a place out of the UK that ships it and it is high quality.
Nice! That's music to my ears. That video of Joe Rogan and Dorian Yates talking about it is pretty straightforward:)
And Joe Rogan got a bunch of the rest of us to give it a try. I have made from root bark. I don't want to say it changes your life but it really does change the way you see things. Problem I have is making the time or having the right time/setting to go back. I am never satisfied that now is the perfect time to go back. The things you see tho will leave you with far more questions than answers. That said, I recommend anyone of sound mind give it a try. I just don't believe our minds are capable of imagining the places it sends you. But like mushrooms it is not something you are going to do frequently. It has been two full years since I have went back and I have had DMT this whole time. Ain't that a bitch..
You’re talking about “Changa” right? It’s plant based form of DMT combined with another plant based MAOI usually smoked through a bong v chemical (crystal based) DMT. I’ve done both and the Changa was more effective. I have had the most out of the world and amazing experiences on this where I have literally met and communicated with beings from other dimensions all the while travelling through a seriously pixelated environment where everything around me had split up into multi dimensional hexagonal shapes. I loved every minute of it and like my post above this left me feeling “connected” and grounded. It’s been a number of years and my life has changed such that I don’t really have the opportunity to do it again. This doesn’t bother me and I’m not out chasing for it. Rather I feel grateful I had the chance to ha w the experience and know I am a better person for it.
Yeah Changa is basically just DMT soaked into a smokable leaf like tobacco. That's the great thing about DMT and Ayshuasca imo, it's a very psychedelic experience but the end result doesn't leave you chasing the dragon. It actually helped me get my act together when I most likely was on a path that would have spiraled out of control. It sounds crazy but it does get you to reevaluating life and seeking balance. There are many celebrities and others that have gone to Ayshuasca (DMT tea) based rehabs to get off the hard shit. Definitely different from other recreational drugs and results in a much more spiritual experience than anything else I've done. DMT occurs naturally in the human body. A flood of DMT is released when crossing from life into death (documented science) and almost all plants and mammals have minuscule amounts of DMT naturally occurring in them. Certain plants (like Mimosa Hostilis) have higher concentrations of the chemical which is why they are used for production of the compound. DMT has been dubbed "the spirit molecule" due to it's effects.
I used MH bark to make mine. Making it yourself I believe is an important part of the experience. But that is just me. Then learning how to properly smoke it is step two,lol
We may be straying into some borderline territory here even for the off topic section so feel free to censor if appropriate but this is interesting and what is pretty much done with available herbs etc. where I am from - https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Changa
StevebIf you get a chance watch an interview with Jan Irvin on the subject, he says some crazy stuff.
Not sure if I have read his but there are several on youtube that are full of shit like this dude Shaman Oaks. He gets called out by people that have actually used DMT. Then you have the real insane people claiming the elves are really the devil lol
StevebThe clockwork elves or whatever they're called, I heard them being called demons before.
They are difficult to describe but elves works. I never once felt like I was in the presence of demons or even unwelcome. Quite the contrary, maybe the most welcome I have ever felt.
Thanks. I did a few of those way back in my early uni years. Haven't heard that expression, maybe a cultural thing.
CelestiaxMaybe a change in attitude or view on life can improve your mood, unless you have an unbeatable dependency issues. If you have to take something, make sure it grows in the ground.
Agreed. Hops, Barley, Corn and Rye grow in the ground...they just get a little processed before they reach my lips.
jayisk"to take the edge off"
that is the exact phase i would say before eating a hand full of percs and washing it down with vodka. Didnt work out well in the end.
Do a few space monkeys in a row, if you survive the buzz will be amazing!