Whats up, Milk in the house..
Whats up guys, little background info..
Destroyed my natty levels as a younger man and I stay on 250-300mg a week minimum now. Started cycling at 17, ran every "prohormone" you can think of. Loved Epistane and Tren. Stopped cycling from 21 til 27, am 28 now. I've always run enanthate. After 2.5-3 years (24-27) of no gym activity due to having no time because of my job (hard long hours, very physical), I decided I had to get back in there, gain some confidence again, feel better in general... gain some stamina at least.
I did about a year of Push Pull Legs type of program with a powerlifting emphasis. Heavy deads, squats and bench with focus work til failure. 3 days a week. I always grow and gain strength faster when I don't go more than 4 times a week, 4th day being cardio, if I feel I need it.
I went from 315lbs, pure fat.. to 265, still some belly but I look nothing like I did when I started. Down 2 shirt sizes, lost 6 inches on my waistline. Feel a million times better, and stronger.
Recently I bumped the test to 600mg weekly (300mg Monday, 300mg Thursday) to gain some size and strength on the heavier lifts. I'm 10 weeks in on the 600mg weekly. Weight is at 275-280 and holding steady. I may drop the test back down after say 16 weeks and run some anadrol or tren ace after a month or two of just test.
When I started at 315lbs I could only pick up 285 for maybe 5 reps on deads. 225 for 8 on bench and 305 for 5 or 6 on squats. Not horrible for the average guy but I stay around 300lbs at 6'2" and my job requires heavy lifting 100% of the time. Mostly back and legs involved. After a year of PPL type program, I'm at 395 deads for 5, 305 for 5 on incline, 325 for 8 on flat bench, 540 on squats for 5. Legs have always been my strong point and I have long arms. Makes deads a challenge. My grip needs work also, and I have been doing a lot of bent over rows with a barbell as well as dumbells to try and improve my grip. Lots of the hammer strength rows as well.
Realistically, my goal is to get to the point where I can do a powerlift meet and not place last (ha-ha) but maybe top 5. I'm still young and I know with consistency I can get there in a year or so.
Cheers, glad to be here!
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I feel ya on getting into AAS/pro hormones to early if only we could go back right? Welcome to Eroids!
Yup you know the deal. Thanks bro. Happy lifting
Welcome mate. Congratulations on finding fitness again.
You know you wish someone told you you’re fucking up at 17 running the pro hormones? Well 50 year old you will be thankful the lads are giving you advice down below. I don’t think there’s a huge amount of research on cruising on 300mg per week apart from various health complications it’ll no doubt increas the risk of. There is however plenty on TRT and if done right can be safe.
Be smart bro!
No doubt you are right. I don't intend on staying on the 300 for life. I think when I do decide I am at the level of strength I want to obtain I will lower the test so I don't show superphysiological when I go back and try to get a script. Maybe the 125mg every 10 days that was first prescribed. The only benefit to that low of trt doses for me was I didn't need any sort of ai to keep me in check.
No ai = healthy cholesterol
True. I stay pretty healthy heartwise even at the weight I am. I work on multiple farms and do a lot of carrying heavy weight for long walks. Last checked my hdl was 39 ldl 63. Not anything out of the norm. That was at the start of the bump to 600mg per week test e.
At 300 mg a week dr prescribed what was your test levels when the doctor tested you
I was at 92ng/dl. One doc prescribed 150mg every 10th day. That is not what I stayed using though.
Welcome. 250-300 a week huh? Can I have the name of your doctor? that is not ANY prescribed dose I ever seen. so your doctor says "this week do 250 and maybe next week do 300." lol.
When I say 250-300 I should have clarified. I was at 300mg per week and my blood pressure was starting to go up. I dialed it back a bit. It leveled out and has not gone back up. Y'all are so critical lol.
jayiskFYI..,members are here to help so dont argue with them just take in the info. That is just the way they talk to members especially if your plan isnt safe, healthy or proper.
I appreciate the response. I will try and respond without argument. People here seem to assume a lot without asking. Makes having a candidate conversation somewhat difficult.
jayiskYou are new to these members that have been here for yrs. that is the way they talk. so dont take things personal and need to be thick skinned and able to take critic or criticism.
Cool, I will keep that in mind. Thank you sir.
haha I imagine it like being on probation at a fire station or a rook on a hockey team or something...ball busting is generally a good thing when we realize why. Anyway, I just wanted to say hello and welcome brotha, new here myself.
Cheers
I'm one of the resident ball busters. We teach and preach safety so I blaze guns. Keep it safe and watch what you say. Lots of kiddies in disguise looking for cosign.
Makes sense. Last thing I want to do is misinform the younger crowd. If I could do it all over again I would have stayed training and waited til I am the age I am now, then tried just test prop at maybe 4-500mg weekly for say 10-12 weeks with a proper pct and proper off cycle. Bloods done before, during and after pct. Hindsight 20-20.
jayiskoh, you out of the red..,lol
Ayy that's good news. Wonder how that happened. Lol
jayiskif you havent already read this it will def. help. Plus the search button up top helps. try searching for a question before posting it. Sure it has prob. been asked numerous times.
https://www.eroids.com/rules-and-guidelines
read this it explains karma and level rankings of members. Never ask for karma
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/off-topic/karma-ranking-explained-n...
All seems fair enough. I'll keep my posts clean. Thanks man.
jayiskJust trying to help since you posted on the src pg.
A lot of people new to posting in the forum section get over sensitive and defensive to feedback.
they get negged to troll status and usually banned if they dont change.
eroids is a great site with a wealth of knowledge. just need to learn the ropes, stay polite, and members will go out of their way to help you out.
as older members already said they are very concerned for younger members not making mistakes with gear and screwing their bodies up for life.
take care!
Thanks again man. It was my mistake for posting a review in the source section without introduction and without a good review of the stickies and rules.
I'm all for safety. Wish I would have known half as much as I do now about cycling when I was younger. If any younger guys see this my short story on what I did, don't think for a second I wouldn't take it all back. I bought all my "prohormones" from nutrition stores like max muscle. All over the counter. Nobody said, "You shouldn't be taking this, you're too young, small, innexperienced" nada. They were just making sales.
jayiskdouble post
Ha. I was prescribed 125mg every 10 days. Still felt shitty. Did more tests with a different doctor. They wanted to try 150mg every 10 days. After wasting time and money I went with my own approach.
A permanent cycle Good for you! we all so critical because we practice safety here and you sir are not safe at all. I cant wait to see how you will contribute to our community. I'm sure your experience with cycling and training will be above average and a welcome addition.
I certainly wouldn't recommend doing what I do to anybody. This is just the path I've chosen to take. Not that that makes me any more correct. I have a goal in mind and I plan to meet that goal.
Dominick77Must be one of those self prescribed TRT
Isn’t a normal TRT dose 400-600 a week?
Hahahaahahaha
I doubled what I was cruising on for a blast at 600mg pw. Never said 400-600mg for trt.
Somewhat.
Not somewhat. Not at all. You're on your own cruse.
TRT needs to be done with slow and gradual changes to dial you in, it can take a year or so. The doc isn't going to give you a scrypt if you stop seeing him or don't get bloods when he tells you.
Next time you try for scripted TRT you'll look like the issue wasn't that big of a deal for you to stick it out the last time so you'll be ignored the second time.
Good on you for living up to the ideals of impetuous youth and instant gratification.
Instant gratification. Heck yea. Shoot. I’m gonna. Start my TRT dose of 150mg of tren
Alright so in the future when referring to my usage I'll call it a cruise. Sorry for not using the correct terminology. I definitely will be getting blood tests done every few months still. I may not do the trt doses but that doesn't mean I'm not keeping e2 in check and watching my levels.
We've long ago established if a doctor isn't working with you and you have a scrypt it is not TRT.
It is more honest, less confusing, and will allow others to properly assist if they have a mind to.
We also frown on cruising.
News flash, you still are a younger man.
Odds are -as is evident in your approach, you never ran a decent PCT, never tried scripted clomed therapy, and certainly never saw a doctor. If you had, that part would have been included in your "introduction bio".
In the time I stopped cycling age 21-27 I did try clomid therapy. It helped but not much. My libido was still very low and being married, this was not ideal for anyone.
When cycling as a younger (younger meaning younger than I am now, not saying I am not a young man at all, just referring to a time when I was younger than I am now) I did not know what a proper pct was. I had no real direction or guidance. I went to the nutrition store and bought what the guys there recommended. I had no idea til years later that I was actually using ass.
jayisk"later that I was actually using ass."
you supp store was selling you ass..lol
LMAO. AAS. That autocorrect can be a real pain. Woops.
Man. Lol. I came here to review a site because they have been good to me and I wanted to put in a good word. Should I just be done with posting info on myself since I've not gone done the route you all would prefer I would have taken? I've said it once already, I'm not advising anyone to do what I am doing.
No, I just think you should be as candid as you can be without people trying to tease details out of you.
Ok, I can do that. Im here to stay learning and maybe along the way steer some of the younger crowd away from doing what I did.