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Anyone use a mouthpiece when lifting? Or doing any athletic activities for performance benefits?

The “science” of the mouthguard is Concurrent Activation Potentiation (CAP)...”...the phenomenon by which you can increase the force production of muscles through the contraction of muscles that are remote to the prime mover.”

Jay Cutler talking about the ArmourBite:
https://youtu.be/GQ_wl1WKYnM

Apparently, mouthpices of this nature are banned in PGA because the increase swing speeds.

Please share your experiences/insight...
Thanks!

DragonDog's picture

I used to use one during lifting, and I think I am going to go back to using it. I bite down a little too hard some times, and I feel it grinding on my front teeth.

Greg's picture

I would. I hear an oral hernia is way worse than an umbilical hernia.

DragonDog's picture

TBH, I don't know what are an oral hernia or an umbilical hernia for that matter, but it sounds horrible AF. If a mouth guard helps prevent it, I am sticking it back in.

Just for kicks I am going to do some google searches now.

Greg's picture

let me know if you find oral hernia anywhere

press1's picture

Isn't that Lockjaw ...

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DragonDog's picture

No therapy, no surgery, No HOMO.

DragonDog's picture

The closest thing I could find is a Hiatus Hernia. When I was in the Army, the platoon sergeants used to send the privates out with a hammer to test a tank's armor. Every square inch had to be ping to ensure structural integrity. Reading the PMCS manual would have saved them a lot trouble.

the origianl Old Iron's picture

If it's banned it probably produces some benefit.

TableMuscle's picture

Hey just checking back to see what you found out with your research. Let me know here or if ya want send friend request. Just curious what you found.

ashop's picture

If you doing something and your teeth is at risk, by all means, protect them!

kibby's picture

Hi ceased,

I read through your post mate and it got me thinking back to when I boxed. and I can see exactly how using a mouthpiece could help dig that little bit deeper.

Doing bag work (No mouthpiece) still hitting as hard as you can. But compared to sparing or an actual fight I can tell you that I had a little extra in me. This could have been adrenaline for some of it I'm not sure but you can definitely tell the difference

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Caeser's picture

Appreciate you sharing your experience.

Pale's picture

I would certainly recommend wearing one. I have cracked two of my own teeth leading to crowns. One of which left nerves exposed and even after one root canal left one still in there. This also would be dependent on the individual, I have an overbite that I should have probably gotten braces for when I was a kid.

Caeser's picture

Ouch! That sounds painful & uncomfortable...
Thanks for share Pale.

I’m mainly researching the Concurrent Activation Potentiation (CAP)...”...the phenomenon by which you can increase the force production of muscles through the contraction of muscles that are remote to the prime mover.”

DragonDog's picture

Agreed. Don't be a mouth breather. I was taught to breathe in through the nose and out through the mouth. Clean the air with your nose, and get the CO2 as quick as possible through the mouth. Though, nose breathing can be tricky when boxing especially after a few shots to the nose. However a worse problem is mouth breathing during boxing as we tend to open our jaws when we breathe, which is a real problem when struck by hook and the bottom row of teeth rip open the cheek. I practice biting down on my mouth guard and breathing between my cheeks and teeth. It's a funny sound, but who cares.

Caeser's picture

The “science” of the mouthguard is Concurrent Activation Potentiation (CAP)...”...the phenomenon by which you can increase the force production of muscles through the contraction of muscles that are remote to the prime mover.”

Sam I Am's picture

I tend to breathe in through my mouth and out the nose. It wouldn't do me any good. I dont beleive in belts or gloves either but everyone has a preference.

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Caeser's picture

The “science” of the mouthguard is Concurrent Activation Potentiation (CAP)...”...the phenomenon by which you can increase the force production of muscles through the contraction of muscles that are remote to the prime mover.”

With respect to belts, gloves, wraps, chalk...I don’t use them...but they can assist in lifting more weight; which is why many powerlifters/weightlifters will use them at times.

RVWolf's picture

I'm breathing through my mouth too. These are specific because they let the air pass, in fact it is essentially two left and right paves that are retained by biting by the molars, so there is nothing in front of which can block the air flow when you breath. It is really not like the models used by boxers ect ...

Sam I Am's picture

Ok cool. If your getting jaw or tooth problems its probably a good idea.

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johnmarshall12's picture

I never used one or fettle need to. But foursome it could be a good idea! Varies from person to person.

Caeser's picture

There are plenty more videos & articles I can share that are not Jay Cutler... but you can simply google it...
And in doing so, you’ll notice that a lot of powerlifters/weightlifters are using NewAge mouthpieces...

So to reiterate...What’s YOUR EXPERIENCE?...or what have you heard from others?

TableMuscle's picture

Caeser I have started doing this. I have a chipped tooth from not using one. When I’m lifting I have headphones on rockin out and in my own little world. When I’m there I’ll grit my teeth and push or pull, depending on the case, really hard and intense. A mouth piece may “look” funny to other people but the way I look at it, I’m not there for them I’m there for me. I use one now that my dentist made for me. It’s very sleek not like the bulky football pieces.

Caeser's picture

Do you notice performance enhancement when using? Can you lift more with the mouth piece?

DragonDog's picture

If one is not worried about snapping their teeth, I would imagine they might lift a tiny bit more. In boxing, when we bite down on the mouth guard we throw with everything we have. Regardless, I think they mostly keep one's teeth intact.

TableMuscle's picture

Damn hard to answer. Maybe a little just because of the fact that I’m concentrating on my muscle movement more and less on my teeth. Seems like I can always lift better when I’m solely focused on that perticular muscle that I’m working. Worrying about my teeth breaks that focus. Hope this helps but bottom line to me is if you think it will help why not try? If it’s because your worried about what others might think then I just ask who are we in the gym for us or them? Good luck brother.