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2nd day in a row using some new pins 23G x 1...... after pulling out its spraying blood, I'm guessing I obviously hit an artery, I go in my buns so I cant a track it, I've never had this happen 2 days in a row, I obviously went in a different area than yesterday and I'm still shocked I hit it again, I mean what's the chances, I was actually used to using a higher gauge but I know that has nothing to do with it, anyone have any advice, Its freaking me out, and now I can feel little knots where it must have nicked the artery, not sure what that is, maybe just a effect of it clotting? I would love some light shed on what's going on, is it just a freak happening or am I all of a sudden doing something wrong? Not my first rodeo!

Jim Layhey's picture

Hollycrap -57

ashop's picture

I use 1.5" for glute injections. Check out the Z track method on injections, this may help u some.

Db24k's picture

How do u track on the glutes? Lol

IrishMack's picture

Unless your "buns" are super muscular 1 inch is not deep enough into the muscle. There's a reason endocrinologists use a 1.5 inch for any "bun" injection. And get used to the blood when you use a harpoon to inject.

Db24k's picture

Thanks for the help dude, was kind of thinking that too but some kid that thinks he knows what hes talkin bout told me 1 inch was fine. I MEAN it may be, I'm around 200lbs so I'm not a really big guy yet but just to be safe, I was using 1 1/2 at first and then they didnt have them at the pharmacy I was using so I grabbed those, it's been a rough wk learning the hard way.

Sam I Am's picture

If this wasn’t your first rodeo, you wouldn’t be using 23 gauge...
Btw around here if a man refers to his glutes as “buns” he says no homo..

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Db24k's picture

Lol......NO HOMO! Sry I thought the joke would be taken automatically, I guess I should be more careful.

SegaKid87's picture

23g does me, as has over many years. Plus is that gimmic needed everytime, unless your considered a major homo?

Jim Layhey's picture

I use 23’s for glutes! Anything smaller takes too damn long to inject the oil in. It’s hard for me to twist and reach my glutes bro hahaha I get so winded lats are just fighting against ya boy! Hahaha nightmare

PhillyMelvin_Smelvin's picture

Lol that’s funny...just wondering how you wipe ya butt? Front to back or back to front? No homo..

Jim Layhey's picture

Yeah the 1/2” 27 gauge slins are perfect for the delts! I aim for the back part of my lateral head more twists rear delts, butter bro.

IrishMack's picture

Bro Actually, 1/2" is not deep enough for the delts. the point of an intramuscular injection is to get deep into the muscle, not the outer edge. 1/2 inch would be good for your chest and bicep/tricep. My 1st awesome sterile absess came from using a 1/2 in my delt. I told my endo what I used and he called me an idiot.

Jim Layhey's picture

1/2" is not deep enough for the delts

Yeah that’s fair man. Honestly I only use my delts for like TNE or growth so no more than .5ML maybe every leg day or something if I’m feeling frisky I definitely don’t routinely pin them I’m sure it could get infected pinning a lot of juice that shallow. But I live life dangerously baby!

Sam I Am's picture

Get your old lady to do it or a gym buddy.
We used to give each other shots at work.
Nohomo

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Jim Layhey's picture

Bro don’t laugh.. but.. I won’t let anyone else pin me hahaha. Especially my gym bro all young ass (20/21 year olds) and those lames don’t even run juice just sarms bro SMH who needs a liver right?

press1's picture

Yeah its funny as the first ever time I did a Test E injection I let my then GF do it whilst I laid down on my front - man she was F'ing about being all hesitant whilst at the same time I'm stressin out and shouting at her to get on with it Lmao whilst I was drinking Vodka and Orange lmfao! In the end if you are gonna be scared of needles get it done with and learn to do it straight off yourself. You will shit yourself first time anyway but soon it will feel like going for a piss Lol

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Jim Layhey's picture

You will shit yourself first time

Bro seriously first time I had to do a quad injection it felt like the scene on pulp-fiction

press1's picture

With the Adrenaline into the heart Lol I use to cringe at that scene Uuuggh And where she OD'd on the snort and gets the nose bleed. Like The Rock too Lol ..... General Sir, You are now being ordered by a superior officer with a gun!!

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GrowMore's picture

Look into getting some 25 or 27 gauge needles mate. I look at 23 gauge like a draw pin now a days.

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Db24k's picture

And what's the best method to make the transfer, I mean I have done it before with other substances before unfortunately in my younger days if u know what I mean but maybe u have a better method than what I was doin, I wasnt exactly in my right mind back then, sorry if that's too much info, I'm in recovery these days and am very blessed I survived those crazy years of my life.

Db24k's picture

Yes your right, I was using 25s and they were great, it takes forever to draw with them but I can just use the 23s to draw, I would think a 27 would take a while to push in huh?

GrowMore's picture

Let’s start at the top bro as your lack of knowledge is a little concerning.

What does your diet look like? Macros and food.

What does your PCT look like and do you have all the drugs at hand?

Are you needing an ai?

What’s your training program?

Have you looked into all the risks of using AAS at a young age?

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press1's picture

In his other post just gone up he's already shooting Tren.

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Bill G's picture

Seems a fantastic story teller doesn't he . ?

Db24k's picture

I'm dont measure and write down how much oatmeal I had this morning, I dont get all OCD and crazy about it, and my lack of knowledge would be concerning if I was a pro or even a muscle head, I'm just a 40 yr old dude who wanted to put on some good size quickly, my program goes like this, eat as much as I can, protein shake 3x day, I do have something for PCT my muscle headed friend gave me I forget the name but it's the best money can buy, he was so excited to give it to me, I believe its Clomid from alphaGen, I hit the gym 4 x a wk hard, 3 days I do a little cardio and calisthenics, I know I should be way more disciplined and on point with every little thing I do but I've put in about 20lbs of muscle in 2 months which is absolutely nuts, I have about a month left, I couldn't of expected better results for my lack of knowledge.

Db24k's picture

Dinosaur? Lol I hope I'm not becoming a LIZARD, I just turned 40 but I'm in the best shape of my life, I'm running Tren this cycle and have had zero side effects which is suprising, especially after hearing some of the horror stories some guys report, this issue nicking whatever I'm hitting has been my worst side effect lol....and like I told the other guys aspiration only tells u if ur in a vein, I could be hitting something on the way in, and not be in it cause when I pull back I get no blood, but when I pull out it starts shooting, and it's pretty dramatic, were talking shooting out like the movies! 6 to 7 inches a straight stream, thank god it clots and stops as soon as I apply pressure but its causing me anxiety now every time I hit now. I'm gonna consider the thigh, I've just always gone in the ole cheek, and u know how us old dinosaurs hate change lol.....anyways what's the going age for being considered a dinosaur? Am I over the hill?

blackjack115's picture

Even the younger generation like me and some of my friends aspirate. It only takes a couple of seconds and I'd rather be safe than sorry.

press1's picture

I aspirate every damn time too - I know what injecting 1ml tren ace & 40mg dbol straight into blood feels like, & it ain't pretty or pleasant. Like, why the hell wouldn't you aspirate? Even just test if it goes into a vein completely knackers the injection up as its not dispersing properly over time within a muscle. Its just being dumped into blood which messes up all the hormone timings and effectively your A.I dose too - everything is facked!

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Db24k's picture

Like I told another gentleman I always aspirate but that only let's u know if u are in a vein, it doesn't tell u if u nicked one on the way in so when u pull out is when u get your big suprise, its freaking me out dude, it literally shoots out like 6 to 7 inches and sprays blood everywhere! It stops as quick as I apply pressure, I have never had this issue before and its definitely not a pleasant experience, now I have anxiety every time I inject, I'm just gonna try the other cheek lol, I've been hitting primarily the same area for around 2 months now so I'm not sure if I may have increased the target area the first time I nicked it somehow?

blackjack115's picture

Rotate your injection spots, this will reduce scar tissue buildup and allows the site some recovery between injections. You may also consider using a smaller gauge to further reduce trauma to the site, I've used 25g 1.5' inch in the glutes, Next time i will even try to go down to 27g 1.5 inch.

Nicolai's picture

You could have hit a blood vessel. Not an artery. A legit thing to do before pinning is to do a quick aspiration. It's basically pulling the syringe plunger back, prior to injecting, to ensure you haven't hit any blood vessels. If the oil doesn't turn red because of blood, then you're most likely good to go with the pin. If it turns red, you should probably do a new injection site.

Hopefully this helps broski.

Db24k's picture

Aspiration will only tell you if you are in a vein, its possible I could be hitting one on the way in because I do an aspiration always and it's never came back with blood these last 2 times. I'm wondering if when I went in the first time 4 days ago and because I hit something it expanded the vein or swole making it a bigger target? Because I moved about a inch today but it still happen, its freaking me out! It literally sprays like 6 inches out !

SegaKid87's picture

After experience I find the bum my personal nightmare. Hate the angle the chance of hurting yourself etc.

Thigh injection

Nicely sat down, easy to aspirate. Easy to get the angle and injection site spot on.

As to your query, do you aspirate? Maybe hitting a vessel as u go in, so when you pull out bang! Maybe you've inflamed the are.

Db24k's picture

I definitely think that's the issue now, its inflamed and creating a huge target for me, it does kind of suck getting yourself in the bum, especially as I'm getting bigger I'm losing flexibility lol, I have just always gone there and I'm used to it but I'm gonna have to make a change, what size do u use for the thigh?

SegaKid87's picture

I use blue 23g 1inch, many different options out there. That's just my personal choice. I use a very well known branded one, like butter though knife.

I have a similar experience mate, used bum injections for a long time. Until I had a couple of sprays, and hurt myself by bending the needle at an angle when inside me. Hurt like fuck!

My advice mate, research into thigh injection on YouTube. Really good videos on there.

Once I moved to thigh I've never used bum injection again. You'll find it so much easier and relaxed. Good luck mate hope all goes well.