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Photoshoot Peak and Contest Peak

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Hey guys, im 3 and half weeks out from my show but i also got a shoot in 5 days. Im thinking to do a mock up peak plan to see how it goes to have everything laid up to the show. Im on a keto diet for the past 10 weeks and im doing a carb up every 10-14 days depending energy, muscle flatness and condition.

8 days out carb up till spilled over (i didnt have a refeed/cheat for the past 23 days and i was flat as a pancake)
7 days out - no cabs, 9-10 ltrs water - sodium on every meal
6 days out - no carbs, 9-10 ltrs water - sodium on every meal
5 days out - no carbs, 9-10 ltrs water - sodium on every meal
4 days out - no carbs, 9-10 ltrs water - sodium on every meal
3 days out - 30grams of carbs every meal (5 meals a day) - sodium on every meal 9-10 ltrs water
2 days out - 30-40grams of carbs every meal (5 meals a day) - sodium on every meal 9-10 ltrs water
1 days out - 40-60grams of carbs every meal (5 meals a day) - cut sodium, reduce water to 2 ltrs
Photoshoot - sip water throughout, its early in the morning so ill have some PB and J rice cakes with a protein bar and a bag of salted crisps.

As far as drugs go:

Im on tren ace,mast ace, test prop for injectibles, EOD on 75mgs test,150tren and 150 mast.

7 days out - 0.5 aromasin, 20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
6 days out - 20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
5 days out - 20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
4 days out - 0.5 aromasin,20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
3 days out - 20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
2 days out - 20mg nolva, 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron
1 day out - 1 aromasin,20mg nolva 80mgs var, 80mgs winnstrol, 10mg halo,3x proviron, 1/2 dyazide afternoon
Photoshoot - 10mgs halo, 40mgs winnie,40mgs var,2x proviron and only if needed 1/2 dyazide

Thats what i will do for the photoshoot and hope for the best. if all goes well ill emulate it in my peak week in 3 weeks. What are your thoughts ? anything seems off? I dont want to use any other diuretic and to be honest i wasnt planning to use dyazide as well but i got it in hand and ill use it to see how ill respond. I know it wont mess up my potassium so the less factors i can screw the better i think

For the photoshoot i wont cut injectibles but for the show i got laid out what ill cut and when. You can see my cycle history and stats in my profile. ill post pictures within the week although i got a load of videos, which i cant post here sadly.

Optimusprimal's picture

I decided to not peak for the shoot to not screw up my prep guys. I look damn good especially when im in the gym working out. It is contracted work but i send some pics over to my photographer and he is oretty happy. We also have a shoot post comp so he said its no biggie if im a bit softer now. Thanks for your feedback,appreciated

johnmarshall12's picture

Like the guys said below; if it works for you it's good. We are all different. Not that it's important but I'm not a big fan of dyazide. I also like Masteron over Winny. Less chance of joint issues and a grainier look!

Dr.BroScience's picture

Not a whole bunch to like about this planned protocol.

First, I understand that work happens but a photoshoot 3 weeks out is far less than optimal, I do hope that this is for contracted work and not something simply planned by you prior to get some new photos made. If that latter being correct it very poor planning. You are sacrificing your optimal show shape in a major way.
You now plan on peaking optimally twice in 3 weeks times.
How many times have you heard of professionals being able to accomplish this? I agree with comments below I see spillage and yo-yos galore both in weight and levels in those final crucial 3 weeks.

Also with this amount of orals you are set out to pickle your liver and kidneys. Though not listed , I will presume that you will taking in addition to this clen and t3 as well. Adding that into the mix you are preparing to run 6 orals and 2 oral estro products. First , 2 products to handle estro on cycle is never advisable nor recommended. Using two different anti estrogen products is code for you haven't figured out the proper protocol for yourself with just one as of yet. My opinion , no need whatsoever to run Nolva and Aromasin. together

Half to agree with the man Makwa below as well. Would dump the harsh Winny and keep your var at sensible levels as well.

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I don't know bro, everyone's prep is a little different, but everything you have going on there from your choice of drugs to your loading/deloading phases would definitely not work for me. Don't want you to change your protocol if it has worked for you before but this is the way I would go about it and is pretty much foolproof and little tweaks can be made in future preps based on your personal experience.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/peak-week-prep-strategy

Going from keto to 3 days of carb loading like that will most likely result in spillover.

Nothing to assist with glycogen loading....SD or adrol? Dump the winni and add a glycogen loader in instead. Shouldn't need 80mg of var. Forget about the asin, tough to crash estro with it and that amount isn't going to do much with how infrequently you are using it. 2.5mg of letro ED will do it though, which is another reason I wouldn't be using winni. You won't be able to move your joints without them feeling like they are going to snap. Nolva?

Not a fan of how you are doing your sodium/water load and deload. Need to cut sodium way before that.

Dyazide and other diuretics like it have probably screwed up more preps than they have helped. Unless you are areally experienced in using it, you better stick with the safe and sound vit c dandelion root protocol. Way to easy to screw things up with diuretics like that.

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i never tried adrol or sdrol bro and i said that every cycle i do ill try only 1 new compount. for this cycle tren was the new agent so i didnt want to mess with anything else and didnt plan ahead for adrol or sdrol sadly.

I was pretty skeptic going from keto to a 3 day load but normally i was dieting with 150-200 carbs per day. I used Keto for this one because i had a setback in my prep and had to take more drastic measures. Im no stranger to diet and the suffering of the diet nor im i afraid of it btw so i just said fuck it ill go full keto for 10-12 weeks and see how it goes.

Now for estro. i got pharma grade aromasin and im lucky enough to have most of my stuff pharma and blood work showed that i can crush my estro with aromasin, and with the added nolva working synergistically with aromasin 'i think' it will flatten out my estrogen levels. however if you think letro would be a better option i can try it for the photoshoot. i mean thats why the photoshoot is to test the waters Blum 3 ill formulate a plan where i remove winnie keep halo and crush estro

I kept sodium in so deep because i think it will help with cramping from dyazide, i might be mistaken on that though.

I dont know man as i said im second guessing stuff at this point since i got tunnel vision and i want to make a plan that doesnt have many and drastic changes just incase something screws up. I mean if i cramp up on dyazide ill just have some sodium, if i spill over from carbs on day 2 ill just cut em on day 3. The water reduction on day pre shoot is just there to help push carbs through and dont cramp. Again all those are up for debate and improvement im taking every consideration you guys give me in account and im already thinking of some other options, especially from the thread you have there. great info btw thanks for the effort to put it all together

Makwa's picture

Cramping isn't the big issue with dyazide. The issue is that it flattens you out and makes you look like shit. Seen it backfire more than it has helped.

Optimusprimal's picture

Palumbo suggests that if u add sodium u can counter the flatness whats your take on that brother?

Makwa's picture

Like I said way to many variables going on there. How much sodium do you take? To much and you smooth out, not enough you are left flat. Adjust sodium...need to to adjust water??....to much water and more diuretics...adjust sodium again and so on and so on. To much of a balancing act and crap shoot, not worth it IMO. Better off to play around with your carb/water/sodium phases than messing with diuretics. To many people screw up there load/deload and think they can fix spillover with diuretics but it just backfires even more and makes them look even worse. Stick with what won't backfire, vit c and dandelion root and take good notes of your load/deload phases so you know what to adjust in the future if need be.

In the end it all boils down to what you are looking like that final week. Do you even need to adjust carbs/water/sodium? If you like what you see in the mirror don't change anything.

robb's picture

Excessive orals in here. 80mg of both winstrol and var, with halo on top. To clarify are you dosing halo 10mg 3 times a day or is it proviron that you are dosing 3 times a day?

I read what you wrote about tapering up but fuck me, 80 of each just seems like you're relying on the drugs. 80 of win with a diaretic could backfire on you. I'd have something at hand to counter cramps.

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Optimusprimal's picture

no bro 10mgs of halo only. Proviron is dosed 3x per day. ill only up the halo 1 week out from the show, not the photoshoot and thats when i wont take other orals apart from proviron halo and anti es.

robb's picture

Is the Avi picture you?

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Optimusprimal's picture

Yes but i dont know which u see. I see a different one on mobile and a different on browser lol.

robb's picture

It's kind of a side chest ab pose. Your wearing grey bottoms. Gotta give it to you you look great, well proportioned, with good flow.

You should do well at the show. post up pics.

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Optimusprimal's picture

Thanks bro that was 2 years ago ;) im much much improved now. But thanks a million. I think the best aspect i got is symmetry, but i do hate my damn arms Blum 3

Drock_357's picture

Wtf do you expect all those orals to do in 7 days?

I’m no prep pro here but wouldn’t you want to be off everything and drying out with just diet, water intake, vit c , and possibly an ai for the last 10-14 days?

Optimusprimal's picture

Im on cycle for the past 12weeks. im not using orals for a week thats neither logical nor productive.

wanted's picture

I never tried dyazide before. Some dandelion root did enough for me along with 4,000 mg vitamin c

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Optimusprimal's picture

The initial plan was to go over the vit c load but the last time i tried that i had splitting headaches. I dont know man, im deep in prep and im second guessing everything here lol.

stairmaster's picture

Aro, Nolva, Var , Winny , Halo, Provi and a diuretic pill.

Thats an oral suicide stack where I see no benefits in it!

Why so much orals, please explain your expectations!

Aro is to be used ed.

Your loading and deloading plan makes not much sense for me , especially you'll load with 150-200gr carbs...too less imo.

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so as far as carbs go, im not used to taking any carb intake apart from the odd cheat/refeed. So since i was in a prolonged keto state i find it logical and through previous experience that i can bloat out and spill over quickly. steady intake of carbs for 3 days is enough to fill me up just right from previous experience.

I started my anabolic orals low and tapered up the dose since winnie has a ceiling effect. As i said im 3 and half weeks out so the orals have been there for quite some time Smile

For the anti estros i normally take 0.5 aromasin 2x a week and im golden, but for now i wanted to crush them to dry out better for the shoot! i use nolva with aromasin that have a synergistic effect to dry out.

Hope i clarified everything man! if you have any other suggestions shoot ahead