posted Wed, 04/07/2021 - 20:58
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Obtaining TRT Prescription
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Currently on 150mg/wk, from “sources”
Trying to get a prescription to avoid any possibility of legal issues in the future.
A few vials of test twice a year probably wont lead to any legal issues, but with having a family it seems irresponsible.
Its been three years since Ive been natural, so going to the PCT route might not be my best option.
Just wanted some different opinions on going about this in an honest way.
Thinking about stopping my trt to crash test levels, then get tested by a doctor to obtain the script,
Or should I just be upfront about my use.
Whats the best way to go about this?
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You shouldn't need TRT at your age. What's your BF%? I'm assuming you're fat which means you're living a very unhealthy lifestyle. TRT isn't what you need. You need a sensible diet plan and regular exercise. You sound like a heart attack in the making. Good luck with that.
Bigun2Come on Achak, no one does that diet bs. It’s all about the magic shots, man. Who the fuck wants to exercise discipline in the kitchen and change their habits to make positive changes in their lives?
Why would anyone even consider doing that? That’s what trens for hahahahaha!!
Anon+1
Ironically.
Fella, if you are 270 now, can you imagine what you could look like if you came off the juice, leaned right up and ate to maintain as much as possible?!
You wont find cosigners in here. Get your priorities crooked.
Just want to add my 2 cents as a healthcare worker. This is all based on my experience in the field and in my opinion. I’m not here to tell anyone what to do but just to help if I can.
First of all, I would strongly advise you to be careful with what you tell your doctor about your aas use. Although HIPAA protects you in a lot of ways, there are still several situations that it doesn’t and the info you disclose can bite you in the ass long term. The case where i see this the most is when people up their life insurance policy later in life or get new life insurance. They review EVERYTHING in your medical history and file that they can get their hands on. HIPAA does not protect you from this. If you tell your doctor that you use AAS, they are 99% of the time going to add it in your file to cover their ass for liability reasons. Down the road, life insurance companies can deny coverage if they see something like this.
In my opinion, the best route would be to get off of everything. Do a proper PCT cycle. Wait 4-6 months and then get bloods from there. If your body recovers then great! If not, they will likely put you on TRT or make you get further evaluation. I would not say anything about previous aas use!
If your concern is to be smart and protect your family, think long term. A decent life insurance policy would be great for your family in case anything happened. Also, like many others on here have said, do you really want to pin for the next 50 years?
I hope this is helpful and that you get your situation figured out!
Awesome perspective! +1
Bigun2Why would you not come off everything, do a heavy/long PCT protocol and then test your levels after giving your body time to recover? Why do you want to be on TRT the next 50 years?
If your body does not make Test on its own anymore that’s one thing, but going on TRT without exhausting every other option first is irresponsible and shortsighted IMO. Forever is a long time bro, and make no mistake about it, TRT is forever.
I think this would be the best way myself.
I was on TRT for about a year, and was able to safely step away from the practice through training and diet.
Be honest with your doctor, they are legally required to keep their trap shut - tell them what you've been doing, and he will by oath be required to assist with doing things correctly, he may correct lots of stuff!
There are a lot of public facing T clinics poping up, I'd recommend staying away from those as they are financially predatory, but its easily possible to get your scripts from there.
There are also lots of "age prevention" and "get younger" clinics and small practices that many doctors run. In addition to TRT, they will offer things like Botox. These clinics focus on helping their patients medically look more beautiful, often catered mostly towards women. This is what you're looking for.
The doctor at these sorts of small practices are much more cooperative, than antagonistic about helping with both your TRT usage, and AAS involvement. Worst case scenario, they will only do your bloods for you, and read back the info: which is awesome.
Let me add a quick addendum to my advise... as I agree with some of RustyHookers tips in below comments.
Keep your insurance card out of the conversations with these clinics. It 'shouldn't' be a problem, but don't welcome scrutiny involving your insurance providers. Better safe than sorry, spend the money completely out of pocket.
Sigh, even if you pay cash it still goes into your medical file. By law. You just wrote up a very in depth how to, completely fucking smashing everyone that told him the right thing to do. Do you know what hipaa covers? Doctor keeps his trap shut, but has to record everything in your file even the doc in a box. So before you give advice, make sure you know what you are talking about.
I do, because I worked for a hospital for many years and had to learn all about hipaa.
Ugh, well this was a kick in the gut. I'll see if there is a way to pull my comment above, point taken. Thanks Irish.
You cant once you reply, just let it serve as a reminder that you are helping, but sometimes the best help is no help at all. Op is looking for a cosigner judged by his responses.
It’s not that easy either, doctors aren’t stupid. They’ll see your test levels crashed but they’ll notice your FSH and LH levels are low also. They’ll know you’ve just come off a cycle and your looking to keep going and cruising. TRT is a horrible idea unless it’s absolutely necessary. My endo prefers I cycle and get bloodwork done every 3 months to make sure I’m recovering properly.
Bigun2Agree with what you said, but if a man has low T odds are his FSH/LH numbers would be low as well. It would be more odd if LH/FSH were high and T was low.
Not knocking you bro I’m on trt also I fully understood it was a probability when I crossed over to the dark side and no it’s not a big deal to pin now but what about when we are 70? Just a thought. If you choose that route I would go to a HRT clinic I feel you can be more honest if you’re not honest no need in going and most general practitioners don’t know shit about it anyway
I agree 10000% I think about this a lot when I’m researching on here. What does this look like when I’m 80 or 90, idk what an actual mans test is at this age but I don’t wanna be pinning or rubbing gel on my shoulders when I’m that old.
Yea I’m not sure either but I would guess if you’ve been on TRT for years you would feel the best even at 80 if you just quit it’s definitely something to think about tho. People are very lucky to have this site when I started working out I didn’t really have much guidance I’m pretty much self taught and I really didn’t have any good guidance on gear my first cycle I was 29-30 but knew NOTHING I’m not really a big internet person so I had no idea about this site my first cycle was so fucked I’m embarrassed to even tell it it was test only but I didn’t know esters made a difference so I had one bottle of sust one prop and I think one cup I got from a guy in the gym fuck!!! Lol
RustyhookerAge: 31
Height: 6’5
Weight: 270
BF:
At 31.....lmao....
Is always funny to me how insecure people are on these forums. You’re 5’4 kid
Bigun2I negged you for your shit attitude and blatant disrespect. You asked a question, you didn’t get the answer you wanted so you start talking shit? People here won’t tell you whatever you want to hear, they’ll tell you the truth. Why would you not want that?
Insecure is being in ur 20's and not wanting to get off of steroids, because u know everyone will see what a lazy and stupid kid u are. U probably been running tren for the last 3 years, wrecked ur whole system and now need trt for the rest of ur life.
RustyhookerAnd its insecure to laugh at a 31 yr old boy needing trt?
Your other account?
https://www.eroids.com/users/jvans
No idea who that is.
But yes, after years of gear use you need trt. You should know that.
The minimum age here is 25, otherwise based on your logic the minimum age should be 40, despite all your responses on younger guys posting topics.
Makes sense.
RustyhookerYour age wont allow a real drs help. You might find a quack in a box clinic and for $400 a month you get a script. You dont pay that month, you dont get your script. Sure! Tell your primary dr and if its on your med charts that youre using roids, you can permanently lose your insurance as a high risk drug user.
Didnt care bout 25yr old minimum. Still laughing at your shitty attitude. Everyone your age wants trt because theyre the next big ramey
Rusty I think you can tell your dr. anything in confidence ( dr. Confidentiality). I believe each state has different guidelines on when this can be broken. Typically, child abuse or harm to others.
But I do agree concerning bloodwork, if you get some funny bloodwork, that's a permanent record.
RustyhookerYour charts all go under review regardless of hippa laws. Insurance company will review a script for testosterone at his age as well and question it. Check charts....done.
Bigun2Correct, but whatever you tell your doctor goes into your chart. Your chart is a permanent record. Rusty is right on this one, with insurance companies as shady as they are and looking for any reason to deny claims I would never admit to my doctor aas usage. To each their own.
Your doctor isn’t your friend. He went to school 20 years minimum and racked up $500k in debt to get his job. You think he’s going to jeopardize his career trying to protect you? That is illogical. They have rules they have to follow, one of which is keeping accurate, comprehensive charts. I promise your insurance company sees your chart in the process of fulfilling claims.
AnonThis.
Straight up, mine talks to me off the record and will treat and support up to, and until, it will effect his/her license or come back on either of us in any way. I have been specifically told this.
'Wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?'
RustyhookerWizdom....^^^^
Bingo!!
They are in the business to make money, yes a lot of them prolly enjoy their work and getting to help people along the way. But in the end it’s about dollars and cents
I'm pretty sure HIPAA prevents that. I just called my nurse practitioner, she said they cant say shit or give it to your insurance or anybody. Without serious consequences!
Bigun2So, I’ll bite: I go to my doctor. He prescribes a course of treatment. I have my doctor’s office bill my insurance. You mean to tell me the insurance company is going to approve payment for those services without seeing the specifics of the circumstances that caused the course of treatment to be prescribed and subsequently billed? I’m sorry, but that just isn’t logical.
I understand HIPPA laws but for insurance to pay claims they have to know what they’re paying and why. They’re not in the business of paying for things not medically necessary and look for any excuse to deny a claim.
Here is what it comes down to for me: pretend you’re 100% correct (which I don’t believe) and mums the word between my doctor and my insurance company. My doctor doesn’t share any info about me with my insurance company and they pay claims blind. A medical record is still forever. Why would it ever be wise to record for all of posterity the illegal things I’ve done and illegal substances I’ve taken? That’s borderline retarded, with all due respect.
Each individual has to make their own choice, this is my opinion only
My original point was. You telling the doctor the whole flipping truth, including all the horrible things you have been doing to your body( like a junkie trying to go straight). With the idea, you as the individual knowing that you fucked up and hopefully he can help the situation and get you back on track. I doubt he will lead you down a "too fucking bad" path. Lol. The release of this information to him, shouldn't effect your HIPAA rights aslong as you go with a legit treatment. Or atleast talk about your options.
The coding/billing for insurance can really get messy. The coders fuck this shit up all the time. Been through this many times with my wife and kids. My insurance doesn't cover cypionate, it does cover my bloodwork. I get my script and buy the cypionate out of pocket cheap.
The medical records are at your discretion. Up to you who you want to see them and why.
RustyhookerThat dr has a review board and folks proof reading and transcribing records. Hospital sees youngster on trt theyre gonna ask why. How many youngsters you see get legit, real hospital insured trt?
AnonJust wait, Rusty. It'll happen. We already prescribe them speed, benzos and anxiolytics. I don't know the numbers, but at least the 1st and 3rd listed are 'PEDs'.
RustyhookerSad truth...
I agree it's a slippery slope, keep in mind it's a big difference between disclosure vs prescribing.
RustyhookerStandard hospital procedure is no trt for youngsters. Wont happen without internal review. Folks been on here since site opened trying. Still not happening. This site is global so go figure....
Age: 45
Height: 5-4
Weight: 215
BF: 75%
Lmao
What all compounds have u been using during the last 3 years? Dosage and durations??
I was initially prescribed deca during cancer treatment to put on weight. After cancer it takes years to recover physically. I had to provide for the family so I used moderate dosages of test/deca just to keep enough strength to work.
Rustyhookercancer
If your charts prove cancer then you have to be 100 % clean. Describe symptons and get bloods. I doubt you get script without 2nd check by endocrinokigist but thats the options.
Better check is researching how to remain healthy
It would also be nice to see what his natural blood numbers were too. My doctor, just accepted a friend of a friend of mine, who also wanted to go this route. My doctor, didnt want him to crash his numbers, he did pulled all his past bloodwork and tried to help the guy out. But my doctor is not typical.
The honest way to do it is to stop AAS, and let your body naturally decrease your testosterone production, however long that may take. I’ve never understand wanting to put yourself on trt without actually needing it.