posted Wed, 10/17/2018 - 02:05
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+ 8 Don't forget to check the oil
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Pinning can become tedious and it's easy to get complacent and robotic with your routine, especially doing short ester kicks pinning ed or eod. Then there are times when you get rattled out of autopilot mode, like I just did, when luckily I noticed the big chunk of rubber floating inside the syringe. Perhaps it would not have fit through the 25 ga I was going to swap to pin and gotten clogged, or maybe not? But from now on I'll most certainly check the oil very closely.
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That's a great reminder. I've been pretty lucky so far and never gotten a floater, how ever I have found what looked like a large pics of stringy lint or perhaps a short pics of hair. Now how that got in there who knows but I had to lay that bottle to rest. It was a sad and I lost a great friend. RIP little vial.
Yeah I tossed mine out too, that's why it's always good to have more on hand than you need just for situations like that.
You can’t be too careful.
I had pins from my doc disentegrate with contact of oil. I was in half stab motion when I saw it. Like 100 black little floaters. These are the fancy spring loaded ones. Complete junk. I threw them all out.
Every time you pierce a vial with a hollow sharp needle, there’s a possibility of some kind of chunk. I don’t care if it’s an 18 gauge, or a 27. It’s sharp and hollow. Something happens to the material displaced.
I know the general consensus is to draw small, and pin with the same guage, but for that reason I draw with a 23, and pin with a 25. I feel like switching to a smaller pin helps possibly prevent passing anything through. When my stash is gone, I plan to switch to 27 for pinning.
Just glad you caught it before.
My checklist is the same routine everytime. Also im sure that all of us check the gear when it arrives. I must admit this site is the one that brought my awareness up to checking the stoppers during use. I also draw with a larger needle and inject with a 24ga. No problems yet but you can't be careful enough...hell its going in us. No homo.
Good write up Herp +
I'm the same, I have a routine too, arrange everything just so, so that no steps are skipped. I've pinned before then couldn't remember if I swabbed the vial tops first, so now when I set up I place a prep pad on top of the vial(s) to make sure I don't forget. But in a year of pinning this was my first time with rubber in the barrel, that I know of.
The trick is never to get complacent or robotic. Every pin I've ever done I've used the same technique and hasn't let me down yet. It's imperative to check the vial, the stopper and the barrel of the syringe closely prior to injection. I do this every single time no matter if I'm in a rush or not, It's just a critical as your pinning and cleaning techniques. I've actually delayed my shot a day due to the fact I knew I would be rushing and wouldn't be able to successfully cover my preshot techniques. (Even on a prop cycle)
Just my .02
Agreed!!!
Not sure how bad it would be to pin a plug of rubber, guess depending on the person the body could break it down and absorb it or you could get really nasty irritation that leads to infection and abcess. I don't care to find out!
Pinning is never fun, it's just one of these things we want to get over with really fast. I check the vial, needle, syringe every time, but I know what to mean. Sometimes it is so auto mode that you don't notice shit.
Tnx for bringing this up and raising awareness.
Thanks for the heads up, this is so true, sometimes you are so tired, just want to get this done quick and straight to bed but guess that’s not the best strategy.
+ from me man
These rubber stoppers can be tricky. It's good to check every syringe before pinning. Look for air bubbles also!
RustyhookerAir bubbles mean nothing bro.
Not if they are small, if a large one hit a vessel it could be an issue.
2 mL of air in the cerebral circulation can be fatal, while 0.5 mL of air into a coronary artery can cause cardiac arrest.
In theory it would be pretty hard to do because most anyone would see a 1/2 ml air bubble (and that's only if you directly go into a vain)
Lol 2ml in a muscle would be straight yolo and VERY noticeable and wouldn't ever be likely.
Lol, yolo, but not very long.....
Draw with a 23. No reason to go larger than that. Pin with a 25. If you have rubber chunks you're either drawing with a pin way to big or the stopper is shit. Great reminder ++
You're absolutely right!! I ran out of 23's and had to bring out the big guns, some 18's the local pharmacy gives me when i pick up my trt prescription. Ordered more 23's ....
I had stoppers a while back do this as well, always double check