posted Sat, 05/15/2021 - 18:27
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I've had some tendonitis on my biceps tendon (inside of elbow) for years now that flares up with any bicep related exercise. As I get more and more serious in the gym its becoming an issue for me.
Physical therapy isnt helping too much and i've read mixed reviews on PRP treatment...
Wanted to ask if you guys have used any specific compounds that seem to help tendon healing/ breakdown of scar tissue? I'm pretty much willing to give anything a try at this point haha. Someone on an unrelated forum mentioned something about HGH & some peptides but i'm just trying to gain as much info as I can.
Thanks in advance.
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I can second Voodoo flossing as a solution. You probably have some tight muscles in your forearm/hands/wrists which is causing the tendonitis too. Any compounds you take will just be masking the actual problem and eventually you will end up with a permenant injury. Get the book 'The Anatomy of Stretching' by Brad Walker. This book has a load of great stretches for various forms of tendonitis. I suffered from reoccuring tendonitis for over 5 years until I sorted out my flexibility.
Also your form on exercises could be bad, you may be swinging the weights around which will also fuck up your shit big time. Lower the weight, increase the reps to the 20 to 30 range for anthing that agrevates your tendonitis, focus on mind muscle connection, slow transitions between concentric and eccentics. You can still make great gains from that rep range and it will heal your tendonitis if everything else is in check.
Also if you are low bar squatting, swap to high bar. Low bar squats can really agrivate tendonitis for some people.
If you work on a computer, then buy a vertical/ergenomic mouse. Normal computer mouses can contibute to tnedonitis if you use them a lot. All the stress on your tendonitis related connective tissue at the gym doesn't get time to heal if you use a mouse in the same movements non stop.
Make healing your injury your #1 priority. There is plenty more years for going flat out again when you do. Good luck.
ART - active release therapy will fix it.
Thank me later
U told me several years ago about art and voodoo floss, thank u. I still use voodoo for my elbow when shit gets ruff, which was quite often but has become rare, very effective. ART seems to be more specialized, anyone I ask about it seems to sway away from my questions? But, Ive only asked my chiropractors (3). +
Voodoo floss is the biz.
With ART And vf, I went from not being able to pick up a coffee cup, let alone a plate, to business as usual in a couple of sessions.
I'm glad vf works for u man. If u ever find an ART guy, definitely give it a go. 99.99% of chiro's and physios won't know it. It's the ones that transition and become accredited that you want.
AnonVery interesting. Found some good YouTube videos on that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwukS5xlEg
I use this simular technique using a softball on a wall for not only arms, delts , pecs, and traps. Not sure if this is really considered ART, but has been effective in normal massaging of tight muscles. A member here told me bout this and has been a staple of recovery for me.. Weird at first but we'll worth mastering it..
If you use the ball to hold the muscle in the contracted space, then stretch the muscle, this is ART
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AnonHaving had many injuries myself these sorta threads and comments always interest me brother.
AnonLike Greg said. You need to see a sports medicine physical therapist. They might send you home with a resistance band and sheet of exercises to do...sometimes it's that simple.
There is no compound (not HGH or any peptides) that will break down scar tissue. Only physical therapy or surgery will break down scar tissue. There is a surgery called "tenolysis" for freeing up tendons from scar tissue, usually physical therapy is tried first before the surgery. You said you're pretty much willing to give anything a try at this point. Seeing a sports med doc costs money, but it's that or self diagnose through research and then more research as to what physical therapy exercises you can do to improve or cure your situation.
Ibuprofen
AnonThat's one that should be used in moderation not longterm.
NSAIDs after exercise slowed the healing of muscles, tissues, ligaments and bones.
Source: https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/43/8/548.full
taking ibuprofen during endurance training canceled running-distance-dependent adaptations in skeletal muscle.
Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21081799/
When I got it and went to doctor for it he gave me naproxin and told me take ibuprofen when runs out and rest the leg. It reduces inflammation
AnonYeah but OP said this has been going on for years. It sounds like distal biceps tendonitis. But for it to go on for years and not heal...well that leads me to believe there's probably something wrong with his inner elbow that anti-inflammatory medication ain't gonna fix. And I would imagine, and perhaps OP can confirm this, that over the years he has already tried OTC anti-inflammatory medication while experiencing pain in his inner elbow.
Hey, yes an MRI revealed its the distal biceps tendon that has a decent amount of scar tissue on it.
Just started seeing a PT for the issue and we'll see how it goes. I'm at the point where I always like to do my own research in addition to what doctors say / prescribe as this point thats why i posted here yknow?
This thing has been a bitch to try and heal on my own and i've done IB for long enough that I've decided i'm probably damaging my body from long term usage.
AnonCheck giardap's comment...
Its because they block the release of white blood cells going to the site of pain therefore no inflammation occurs which is actually required to heal the tear or injury from what I remember - I'm pretty sure you are okay up to 400mg/day then after that they interfere.
The otc stuff is only good for pain relief. In order to get anti inflammatory therapy from it it can take persciption doses up to two weeks for results. The stuff is horrible for ur stomach lining, much better stuff out there for anti inflammatory issues..
For sure, pretty certain I've had stomach ulcers from it in the past when using for toothache and shoulder issues when my stool has gone dark the day after using it. What else would you recommend?
Ive suffered from tendonitis, arthritis, and torn ligaments. My first line defense against inflammation is turmeric curriculum... ud be surprised how many natural roots, peppers, and spices have anti inflammation aspects also.. especially peppers. My second line is usually heat and ice therapy.. Now if gets out of control (its not often but my knee) then I will take prescription ibuprofen 600 for about a week, but it's rough on my stomach and I try to avoid this.
When you've had torn ligaments what have you found is the best procedure to repair and heal them?
For me I opted away from surgery. I do therapeutic exercises to strengthen the muscles around my knee to better support it.. Even though it feels good, it'll only take one quick movement let me know its still damaged. As far as peptides, I have not ventured that route, but it heard some really good things. One of them being bpc 157... Shredd seems to be very knowledgeable in that area. Ill most probably be trying that myself before to long
Molinin302Personal experience, big words aren't fun, but I had a non displaced fracture of the medial tibial plane. Cracked my knee lol. First doc after reading the imaging (x-ray) saw no fracture and recommended OTC meds that ultimately slowed the healing process. Two weeks later I returned to the medical center barely able to walk and the doc got arrogant asking me if I followed his protocol. Long story short, I saw a specialist, broken knee. And the healing process was delayed by the OTC meds. Everything put in the body causes changes and reactions, aside from drugs a human can overdose on water. Water.
Molinin302Drugs shouldn't be anyone's first "go to" for injuries like this. There's rest, compression, icing, if needed OTC meds for relief but I'm not a big one for them as they carry a higher toxicity level that many people realize. Best wishes in your recovery and healing.
Thanks dude. Ya.. the google suggests just blasting with IB but thats by no means a solution. Was hoping someone here had a similar situation and would comment with a specific stretch or something that helped long term.
Tendon injuries just suck because of the lack of blood flow.
AnonThis...then ibuprofen...said the old man.
Voodoo flossing has helped me in the past along with turmeric Curcumin supplement.
Rest is the only cure, there is also a stretching exercise that helps. See a sports physical therapist.