+ 12 Anavar - A GREAT Glucose Disposal Agent
Anavar....the word probably brings to your mind awesome pumps, vascularity, mild side effects, mild but lean gains and mild strength gains.
Those pumps are the result of it literally stripping glucose from your bloodstream and forcing it into your muscle cells. You may ask....how do you know this to be true?
Here ya go: I've been a Type 1 Diabetic for 35 years. The past 12 years, I've worn an insulin pump with a continuous glucose monitoring system (CGMS for short).
What that does, it this. There is a transmitter part of it that is the size of a quarter, that connects to the sensor module, that is the size of a dime. The sensor has a needle in it, of about 20g in size and 1" long. Within the needle is a filament attached to the sensor.
I insert the sensor usually on the side of my upper outer quad area, remove the needle, and attach the transmitter to it. The sensor is tacky and sticks to my skin easily. I cover this with Tegaderm dressing to secure it so it doesn't get bumped off easily. Tegaderm is like a film, second-layer of tacky skin.
What the CGMS does is, it reads my glucose level every 5 minutes and wirelessly transmits this to my pump, which charts it on a graph on the pump screen.
This is what it looks like: https://imgur.com/a/e5Y273t
The picture above shows the time delineation clearly marked. I purposely let my glucose level rise to a bit over 200 (225) at 5:00 as you can see. I'd normally have to take 10 units of insulin to lower from 200 to 100, and it'd take about 2-2.5 hours to happen. Everyone's insulin sensitivity is different. This is just mine.
In this instance, I did NOT take any insulin. I took 25mg of Anavar at 5:00 instead. The results speak for themselves. If that's not efficient glucose disposal, I don't know what is.
Note: I am NOT condoning or encouraging anyone to follow or do what I'm doing. My body is my own lab experiment. This is just from my own experience, personally, and is meant as a simple gesture of information sharing. If you’re curious as to my history, backstory, and experience with gear being a T1D, here’s my long read of an intro thread: https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/introduction/my-long-story-type-1-d...
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Anavar does many wonderful things and is the most underrated steroid out there. Yet it is expensive and that should tell you something. It's great for lean bulks, cuts, and lowering SBGH.
I think the expensive thing is a little over blown. It's around the same as tren ace and mast gram for gram. Compared to other orals it maybe expensive.
Yep its probably just because things like Dbol & Winny are so cheap aren't they, even anadrol. Not bloody Halo though Lol ....
doesnt tren do this aswell? that's why it makes u kinda flat, cause stripping all the glucose from ur blood
Even more so than most compunds
I knew it!!! I wrote a forum topic on this same thing! Only diffenrnce being the other compounds!. Check out anabolics section and compounds that cause hypoglycemia.. know I first came up with this stricly by how I felt and really zoning into my body at certain times... eventually I started using a finger stick glucose moniter to see any hard eveidence. And I did. But to see this worked almost as good as insulin for a diabetic?? Wow. That proves my theory. Awesome post brother you just made my day...
This is really interesting and fuesl the recent AAS cause hypos discussions. Thanks for sharing +s
Very good read! Been looking into running some var appreciate the knowledge!
I'm going to test this now lol I've just taken 30mg anavar and its basically showing the drop at an hour in isn't it - Let's see if I notice it. I always can with the Dbol as that happens within a few minutes.
It’s during the 1-2 hour timeframe that the biggest drop happens for me.
Sorry I never got back to you on this bud!
I've defo become a bit of an anavar fan myself over the past several weeks due to the quick strength and feel good factor you get from it - totally different to Dbol for sure. Still got to say though mate if you take 40/50mg dbol it drops the old blood glucose levels way more for sure - I'd still be really interested to see you run this experiment on that compound as I think it would be very drastic in comparison to the anavar findings. I appreciate you aren't a fan of it though mate.
Tell ya what, when I come off cruise mode of just TRT and GH towards the end of the year, I’ll use Dbol for a kickstart for a couple weeks and document the results for you.
Interesting, also a T1d
Good read, very interesting post. Thank you for sharing +1
I'm curious as to whether the Var at 25mg PD has had a negative effect on your HDL...any bloods on that?
Not much of an effect as of my last bloods a couple weeks ago. Just a slight rise in liver values. See the convo below I had with Rusty. I'll have a fresh deeply detailed set of bloods pulled on the 1st or 2nd and will post them and link them here as soon as I get them back.
Yes, i read all the posts and didn't see anything about Cholesterol, and Var is well known for affecting Cholesterol negatively - that's why I asked. I'm interested to see your blood panel. Thanks in advance for posting.
Very interesting post. +1
Alphamale500Very interesting! Good information.+
Yeah good read. ++
Good read +2
That's v.cool man! I was aware of DBol doing this to a massive extent but didn't realise anavar did it also - I thought the pumps were because it utilizes and makes creatine much more efficient within the muscle etc.
Could you possibly do one for Dbol if you have any tabs handy as I'd be Very interested to see how they compare for this trait as this greatly increases power within the muscle?
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I may later down the road, but no plans to right now. I haven’t ran dbol or adrol in years. Just not a fan of the high BP and nosebleeds it brings me. I don’t remember much of an affect on glucose levels when I did run it, but then again, everyone is different and react in different ways. Thanks for the +, much appreciated bro.
If you run DBol at 40/50mg you'll defo feel the blood sugar drop - I've never felt any drop with anadrol as such.
@press1 Hey bro, just checking in with you. I decided to try that theory,. and I just started on a new and vastly improved and more accurate CGM to boot.
Anyway, you are DEAD on. I started Dbol on Monday at 25mg every morning. Low Dose, yes. Walk before you run ;-)
So, I saw the same thing Monday, yesterday and today. Afternoon and evening hour very severe hypoglycemia, and it starts about 5 hours after I take the 25mg dose of DBol. Three days in a row. Ok, now my plan is to start cutting back my insulin basal rates to see if I can find that sweet spot, to quantify how much of an impact DBol has on my body's insulin sensitivity and needs. This should be fun.
Hey Mate - Good to hear from you!
Oh yes, its around that period always when it starts to cut in heavy. That's when I often start to feel very hungry - then I bet you find by around 8 hours its all over Lol
Not over at all, I'm still backing my insulin down until it falls into place. Just have to adjust for it and then it'll be fun. I am eating like a horse gone mad.
I've heard this too, but don't remember much since the last time I tried it was years ago. When I bulk this fall/winter, I may give it another shot and will be glad to write up a detailed article on it as well, with blood glucose readings.
Tren ace & Superdrol would be goodies too ;-)
The three that cause it the most to me are sdrol, tren, and dbol for sure..... deca also but it takes time and have to be in full effect about 5 weeks in or more
Check out my LONG introduction post for info on Tren's effects. Tren and I are old friends.
Hahaha I bet I know him better than you Lol...
Did you also buy and convert the old Finaplix pellet cartridges back in the late 90’s to early 2000’s too?
Mate I didn't even know what Dianabol was then let alone trenbolone haha
jayiskNah Press just used the Finaplix gun and shot them into himself like they did with cattle..,lol
He was a little too young back then but if he was older he prob. would have tried to use the gun.
I use the gun now Jay - a shot straight into the bollocks lol ...Bit sore the next day though but gets rid of the shrinkage
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Good read! Var is awesome; best steroid overall for many uses. It does increase anabolism and protein synthesis. However what you say may be true, in which case it is an added benefit in a weird way mimicking the effects of HGH. HGH also shuttles glucose into the muscles as opposed to the fat stores! +
I’m getting a double whammy effect since I’m also on 5iu of GH a day now. My Dr gave me the scoop on Var and suggested I try it. Thanks for the + bro, much appreciated.
RustyhookerFor how long? Liver stress and enzyme raise as alternative?
I've been on 25mg 2x a day for almost 4 weeks now. When I finish my current blast in 3 more weeks, it'll be dropped back down to 25mg a day. During blast phase, my Dr gets detailed bloodwork every 2 weeks. During cruise mode, every 8 weeks. That's our standing agreement. My last labwork indicated a slight rise in liver values, but not high enough to cause concern yet. It'll be monitored long term and if problems arise, it will be handled appropriately. I do take a few liver support supplements as well.
RustyhookerWould enjoy seeing those labs along with your liver supps posted. Interesting!
Labs posted. Check the pics in my gallery. Liver valves are on point. Just triglycerides jacked up and ldl/hdl is flipped because of it and the Tren at the time.
X2. I would like to see them also.
Yes sir, absolutely. I'm having a fresh set of bloods pulled on the 1st. Will definitely post them and let you know when I do. I use 600mg NAC 2x a day and Himalaya Liver Care (Liv52) and that seems to do the trick so far. I'm hopeful, but don't know if I'll be able to maintain the 25mg a day long term if problems arise. Bloodwork will tell the tale.
RustyhookerIts great to see youre not only following standards but bloods as well. Refreshing to say the least
Thanks Rusty. I started studying and researching AAS when I was 20. I didn't touch ANY until my Dr put me on TRT at 30 years old. I'm a tinkerer by nature, and like to experiment with different things to see what effects they have. Since I'm highly resistant to insulin from being on it for 35 years, I'm always researching anything that can help improve my insulin sensitivity.
I'm lucky to have the Dr. I have. He's very supportive of everything I do. He prescribes me 600mg of Cyp a week for blasting 16 weeks of the year, and 250mg a week for cruise mode, also 1mg Arimidex ED (even though I don't take it every day, my pharmacy only charges $22 for 90 of them), GH at 6IU a day (script is just as a CYA for me as I don't fill it because it'd be $10k a month), and also 50mg Anavar a day. I can get the anavar at a compounding pharmacy, but it's crazy expensive, so that's another CYA script for me. Like I said, our agreement is bloods every 2 weeks during blast and every 8 weeks during cruise mode. Regular bloodwork is a must for a T1D anyway, even more important when gear is involved.
Do you mind me asking if you are in the USA? Or EU, other.
jayiskhave you found any type of botanicals, herbal supps, or reg. supps that improve your blood sugar/insulin sensitivity?
I've tried berberine but it has zero effects for me. I also take 1000mg Metformin 2x a day and it helps, but the only OTC supplement I've found that works for me is Chromium. I take 1000mcg 2x a day and it does have a measurable effect. Dr has tried me on Avandia which worked REALLY good for a long time, but it was pulled from the market (no heart problems here). Then I tried Actos, which worked similar to Avandia, but not as well, but it had a negative side effect of edema/water retention in the ankles and feet. Stopped that completely. Outside of Apidra insulin, I only take the Metformin and Chromium for blood glucose related meds. If you have any ideas or suggestions, I'd love to hear them!