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  • Trengod93's picture
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  • Trengod93
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I haven’t seen one bad reviews. Think I’m gonna pull the plug and order. Is there any bloods on both hgh and igf

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  • Bboy39
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I have been doing some research on igf1 and hgh. Want to know the best way to use them. As i was reading up on peptides and igf1 i came across igf1lr3. The info i got that the igf1lr3 is stronger and last longer than regular igf1. So i guess my question is , is insubolic weaker than igf1lr3. Or is insubolic better quality than lr3.

  • IronMind's picture
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You've gotta read through this source SI man. A plethora of info! Basically IGF-1 LR3 and DES are bullshit peptides never meant for human use!! They do not work the same in the human body or at all/they were only designed for laboratory. The only true IGF-1 is through recombinant extraction that is suitable for human use. Just as hGH is cultured and extracted for human use. Google Increlex...it's the pharmaceutical name for human grade IGF-1 the only one that would be prescribed to you from a doctor. Or even better yet RS has Insubolic rhIGF-1 from a rDNA origin!! No prescription needed like the other PED's we shop for!

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https://roidsource.me/forum/oral-steroids/2157-igf-1-lr3-and-igf-1-des-peptides-thoughts
"Patrick Arnold: I think the biggest waste of money is this IGF LR3."

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  • roidsource
  • 3 days ago

Ladies and Gents,

Many of you use rHGH, some of you heard of RH IGF-1 (aka Mecasermin, Increlex, Insubolic). What's the difference between the two? How you can benefit from rHGH and RH IGF-1 combined therapy?

Insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) is considered to be the mediator of the growth-promoting effects of growth hormone (GH). The metabolic effects of these two hormones, however, are different. Whereas GH treatment leads to elevated insulin and glucose levels, reduced insulin sensitivity, and impaired glucose tolerance, IGF-I treatment leads to reduced insulin and GH levels and enhanced insulin sensitivity. IGF-I may, therefore, not only be the mediator of the growth-promoting effects of GH but also a modulator of the effects of GH on insulin action and glucose metabolism.

https://www.jci.org/articles/view/116212/scanned-page/395

Several mechanisms might explain the greater anabolic effect of the GH/IGF-I combination. First, GH/IGF-I treatment caused markedly higher serum IGF-I concentrations than IGF-1 alone, possibly producing higher concentrations of IGF-1 in tissues. Second, the addition of GH to IGF-I treatment reversed the insulin suppressive effect of IGF-I. These higher insulin concentrations could enhance the anabolic effect of IGF-I, since insulin inhibits proteolysis. Third, GH and IGF-I may each affect protein balance by different mechanisms, For example, GH administered to normal volunteers causes an increase in protein synthesis but does not significantly inhibit proteolysis. In contrast, the predominant mechanism that mediates the response to IGF-I infusion appears to be inhibition of proteolysis. Fourth, the induction of IGFBP3 and ALS by the GH/IGF-1 combination might account for a more stable IGF-I pool, which in turn might provide more anabolic effect.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9589642

These data show that obese postmenopausal women can lose weight and fat without compromising fat free mass, BMR, or gains in muscle strength, and that GH and IGF-I given together may enhance fat loss over either given alone.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC295178/?page=1

In conclusion, our results show that IGF-I per se is a potent anticatabolic agent (as in regard to protein metabolism) leading by way of partial inhibition of insulin secretion to increased lipolysis and fat oxidation. These effects of IGF-I are indepenedent of the inhibitory effect on growth hormone secretion. All these effects of IGF-1 are, however, synergistic to those of GH, which stimulates lipolysis and possibly protein anabolism through mechanisms different from those of IGF-1. In the case of simultaneous administration of GH and IGF-1, insulin levels lie between those attained by IGF-I treatment alone and those observed during GH treatment. Since insulin is an important anabolic hormone (41), it is conceivable that in situations of severe catabolism a combination of GH and IGF-I together will turn out to give the best results with regard to anticatabolism and anabolism

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If you have to choose between HGH and IGF-1, I'd choose RH IGF-1 for bulking cycle, especially when you stack it with meds that elevate liver enzymes and HGH for cutting. Choose RH IGF-1 if you're pre-diabetic or can't use HGH due to HGH related side effects : edema, hyperinsulinemia etc.

Dosages and protocols.

HGH + IGF-1

I'd recommend 100 mcg per 1 IU of HGH.

HGH 2 IU's in the AM, wait 1 hr, inject IGF-1 100 mcg

Another 100 mcg inj Pre-WO or with dinner.

Injecting HGH and IGF-1 on different days.

HGH 2 IU's in the morning and 2 IU'd pre-bed.

Next day : IGF-1 200 mcg in the AM, 200 mcg Pre-WO.

Simultaneous injection of HGH and IGF-1

HGH 2 IU's mixed with IGF-1 200mcg and inject twice/day.

Localized infusion of IGF-I

HGH in the AM or no HGH

100-200 mcg of IGF-1 per muscle group you train : chest, biceps, shoulders.

https://youtu.be/taKWetIvC7w

IGF-I may be acting to directly stimulate processes such as protein synthesis and satellite cell proliferation, which result in skeletal muscle hypertrophy.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9572822/

Most people notice better pump when injecting IGF-1 3 hr apart from HGH (if HGH is used), that's due to increased IGFBPs and ALS from HGH that binds to exogenous IGF-1 they inj.

  • Big Tone36's picture
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Great info, i always been a big believer in synergistic effects of combined compounds.

  • Thebigman96's picture
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Awesome info bro thank you

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  • 4 days ago

"Day before took 3iu of the QTropin. Nails and hair growing like crazy, muscles very full."
Bloodwork
The bloodwork is re-posted from one of the boards.

  • IronMind's picture
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Do you see the irony here? "420 High" lol

5 more days

  • roidsource's picture
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Didn't even notice at first, LOL =)

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  • roidsource
  • 4 days ago

WU/MG is accepted again, but on $300 + orders.

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  • roidsource
  • 5 days ago

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we have to stop taking WU/MG and RIA until further notice.

  • Trengod93's picture
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I just placed an order what was gonna be my way of payment ☹️

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  • Bboy39
  • 1 week ago

Going to try the igf1 and tren ace out. Been using the hgh for a week and i am sleeping better and mood is elevated. Hell thats priceless being able to sleep more than an hour or two at a time. Thanks RS

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I heard from one of the customers that IGF-1 minimized TrenA side effects, IDK the mechanism of action for such effects.
I used HGH with TrenA and my sleep was definitely better.

"It's going great. This qtropin and insubolic are unbelievable. I'm stocking up while I can lol. Thank you again"
Some feedback. =)

  • IronMind's picture
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Now that you mentioned it, yeah running that Tren with Insubolic/had minimal sides if any...slept fine, no night sweats, but all the grainy dense muscle tissue was there and strength!

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Im going to really focus on diet and work on my pyhsique. Strength always came easy but i never felt good about my body. Had gyno as a teen and that really was hard on my self esteem. May even see about surgery in the near future.

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Same here man. Sounds like a similar story to mine. Was always called a powerlifter even though I didn't powerlift lol, I wanted to be a bodybuilder, got the size and needed to cut. I had gyno issues as well prior to gear usage. TBH I was thinking about getting that X-Scuplt procedure costs about 5 grand$, but mine has nearly diminished from diet/building up my chest...also the biggest change was running hGH and IGF to get low enough bf%, what I noticed is my chest was more watery which happens too sometimes on cycle, but other than that the actual gyno is barley there now, and the rest of it I'm going to run the letro protocol to kill it off towards my competition. You'll see some VERY significant changes with Insubolic!!

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  • roidsource
  • 1 week ago

Primo is now back in stock
https://roidsource.me/injectable-steroids/primobolan-methenolone-enan-100-no-labels-detail (It comes with the label, Idk how to change the link)

  • Big Tone36's picture
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Great compound

  • IronMind's picture
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When did you run Primo?

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Last summer

  • franco82's picture
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O yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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  • roidsource
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Dudes, you want some lil' drama? =)

A few weeks ago, I got an email from one of our re-sellers, he asked me about the Qitrope.
I knew nothing about this stuff, so I decided to contact /www.qijianbio.com and talk to them about the Qitrope, as the company Qijian Bio-Pharmaceutical Co., is mentioned as the manufacturer of the Qitrope HGH.
Their response surprised me :
"no it is fake website and fake hgh. it is not our products"
I was like, damn, can you imagine, some dudes simply made a copycat website of the official and licensed lab from China....Genius =)

https://mobile.twitter.com/qijianbio
"We declare the website http://qitrope.com is NOT our company website, and they sell fake Qitrope HGH. The picture shown is the fake Qitrope packing. Our website is http://qijianbio.com"

That's all?

It seems like the copycat website was coded by guys speaking Russian
view-source:https://www.qitrope.com/#contact-us
It's a new trend, now Russians are making knock-off's of Chinese stuff? =)

P.S. The Qitrope can be a great quality product, don't get me wrong, not saying it's bad, but I believe the marketing techniques used by the vendors is simply hurting the industry.

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Agree 100%

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Good read. I had a feeling something was odd. I agree it has hurt the industry a lot. Wherever there is a good amount of money to be made(pharma companies) u can bet there is someone pumping out fakes

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Old news man. Most of us who pay attention have known this for years. But the stuff has actually tested pretty well. And from what I recall, everyone has liked it......but yeah. ..
Also, just a heads up, you're clearly taking a backhanded swipe at another source. For someone like yourself who has a solid reputation and products, it's not a terribly good look.

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First of all, I'm not bad talking some brand for no reason nor trying to hide it, I do it openly and whoever is behind the brand can join the discussion right here, in this thread, I'd not mind it.
Second of all, Qitrope isn't a source. The stuff can be tested 100 times great, have shit tons of positive reviews, but the practice of using someone's name to push your product is harmful to all of us. I've never said anything bad about other labs, just like the one we work with, because they're building their brand and reputation.
Speaking of the harm for the industry : The brand is positioning itself as a Pharm. Factory from China, turns out it's a "Russian knockoff", with all other BS surrounding HGH black market these days it will just make many people re-think using HGH from the smaller labs.

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  • Tattoofever
  • 2 weeks ago

Can anyone recommend a good easy to use wallet for Bitcoin ? Been using one that’s causing confusion with
Payment info not being sent correctly it’s worked well for yrs but don’t know if they changed things on their end
Any recommendations whould be greatly appreciated

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  • roidsource
  • 2 weeks ago

Did you hear about the hash tags : Taco Tuesday, Pizza Wednesday etc? Most of us can't relate...but, what most of you will enjoy is calorie free, stress relieving and uplifting #FEEDBACK TUESDAY =)

"Also I will be pulling bloods in 2 weeks and posting on EROIDS for you. So far I was using genotropin pens 4 IU a day and I switched to your hgh and have not noticed a significant difference. The genotropin pens I had were legit I buy them off my buddy who gets them prescribed. All in all your HGH is solid."

I was once told : there's NO WAY, quality HGH can be cheaper than Big Pharma HGH. You know why a year therapy with Increlex cost $ 50 grand for 1 kid? Insurance will pay for it. The same applies to all other meds. That's why some Rx meds can be bought overseas at a fraction of the price we have in the US.
The main mission of us, smaller labs, to deliver great quality HGH and other meds at an affordable prices.

P.S. Please, review and vote, gents =)

RS