Winter Bulking Blast- Feedback Appreciated
Appreciate any feedback guys.
I'm 48, TRT, and have been blasting and cruising for 2 years. 5'10, 210lbs, 12% BF. My pic is from the end of my summer "cutter" in July, and I've maintained most of that cruising over the last 2 months. Trying to hang on with my cruise until I start my next blast with hard work in the gym and decent diet.
Planning to start in November. Will be my first time with Deca. Have done two summer cutters with Test/Primo/Anavar and a winter bulker last year with Test/EQ. 5-6iu GH throughout all my cycles and plan on doing the same for this one. .5mg Adex 2x/wk has been good for my previous cycles.
Main question would be the orals- think I need a Tbol kicker if I'm using NPP? Is an Anavar finisher necessary in a bulking cycle? I love what Anavar does during cutting, but perhaps not necessary with the Test and Deca.
Also, I know there is some debate over HCG. I use 4000iu/wk with 100mg test weekly during my TRT cruise, but back it down during my blasts. Is HCG even necessary at all?
I have pharma Caber on hand if needed.
Thanks
| Week | Test Blend | NPP | Deca | HGH | Dbol | HCG | Arimidex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 750mg/wk | 300mg/wk | 500mg/wk | 5iu/d | 50mg/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk |
| 2 | 750mg/wk | 300mg/wk | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 50mg/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk |
| 3 | 750mg | 300mg/wk | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 50mg/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk |
| 4 | 750mg | 300mg/wk | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 50mg/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk |
| 5 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 6 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 7 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 8 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 9 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 10 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 11 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 12 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 13 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk | ||
| 14 | 750mg | 500/wk | 5iu/d | 500iu 2x/wk | 1mg/wk |
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yes and also run your test longer than deca- so if deca is 14 weeks, test will be 16
As Mak said below, don't see what you're trying to do with the tbol and the Anavar if it's a bulk. As its your first time using Deca you need to be careful with your ratios, particularly early on. You'll have the NPP rolling and the deca starting to build with only some of the test blend, (assuming some of it is short ester). There's a little danger of things going wrong early on leaving your cycle potentially problematic from the outset.
If you're set on running deca, I'd do this much more simply first time around. Let me know if you want help with that.
Thanks Cat and Mak-
Cat, would definitely appreciate the input. Plan was originally to do just Deca 500 and Test 800, but had some Swoleoil Test VIP Blend so thought I would use that- it comes to about 425mg of Test E and C/ week and the rest short Esters.
Got some NPP to get the cycle going earlier because it was going to be a short 12 week run- had previously run the Primo and the EQ out to about 14-16 weeks. Maybe just impatient.
Assumed the Anavar was a bad idea but put it out there anyway. Going to get rid of that. The Tbol was a sub for Dbol because Dbol and Adrol both spike my BP.
Thanks again for the comments. You guys really helped dial in my summer cycle so I'm ready to listen again.
If you've only got 12 weeks I wouldn't run deca. If you can push it out to 14, it's worthwhile but otherwise I'd stick to a shorter run with the NPP with prop.
First time around I'd look at test / deca with an oral like anadrol or dbol, or even a prop kick in your case due to the bp issues you mentioned. I actually prefer sust on a deca bulk personally so no issue with the blend, but that's individual choice. Your original numbers 800/500 would be about the sort of level I'd suggest so you know already where you need to be here. I'd pretty much stick to that plan you originally had, just with the "sust blend" instead and have a think about the kick.
Drop me a line if you need to mate.
Ok, got it. Tbol out and Dbol in. I have some lisinopril this time around if BP creeps up.
Will run cycle out to 14 weeks and kick it with NPP.
May just drop the Dbol entirely and use the NPP as the kicker.
Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.
What is the test blend? Sustanon, or is there something else in there with the test? Tbol and var in a bulk? Not something I would personally be fond of using for a bulk. Dbol or adrol, yes. If I were going to use orals during a bulk those would be my choices (dbol kills my appetite so I am just down to adrol). You don't need to worry about looking dry so use some orals that can put some big weight on. I don't think you can do much better for a buliking oral than pulsing adrol 2wks on/2 off throughout cycle. Never used deca other than for joint relief, so I am not much help there.