posted Tue, 07/17/2012 - 12:27
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Hey guys, im very new to the community and excited to be a part of it. Was hoping to get some input on a cycle iv seen yesterday and hope it isn't too much or too little, all feedback is greatly appreciated, be it positive or negative.
Concerns- 1.scared to death of gyno 2.Already (MAY) have male pattern baldness starting not sure, front of hair is kinda thin and iv recently started minoxidil if DBOL is a serious concern for this please let me know.
Age: 21
Male
Body-weight: roughly 150
Height 5' 8" (yes i know im short lol)
Week | Mon. | Tues. | Wed. | Thurs. | Fri. | Sat. | Sun. |
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1 | 100mg/Deca + 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol |
2 | 100mg/Deca + 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol |
3 | 200mg/Deca + 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol |
4 | 300mg/Deca + 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol | 25mg/Dbol |
5 | 200mg/Deca + 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol | 20mg/Dbol |
6 | 100mg/Deca + 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol | 15mg/Dbol |
7 | 100mg/Deca + 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva |
8 | 100mg/Deca +20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva | 20mg/nolva |
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JohnnyBlackthe base to every cycle should be testosterone. If this is your first cycle thats exactly where you should start, testosterone with PCT afterwords. Is there a specific reason your not running it here? Without Test your body will not be doing that great. Read below about the Deca and how its going to shut you down brother. Definitely go and do some more research and come back with a new cycle log, people here will always point you in the right direction but this cycle you have right above is not going to do you well.....
sgtstedanko1st, you're way too young, & obviously haven't researched enough. Spend the next 5 years working hard, & getting your diets on dial. You'll be much happier for the rest of your life. Read this... I went into as much detail as i could on why deca only is not asvised anymore. Like fast said. Test only. When you're ready. I don't care what some jerkoff selling the shit to you says. You are not even close, to being done growing. Mentally or physically. . Please wait; & then hit the ground running, when you do cycle.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/opinions-on-simpl...
Check the post 5-8 and growing at 21. Thanks for posting tag! Dang phone wont do that...
Test only firsy cycle. This will cause big issues. Please research
from what i read orals will shut you down hard; and should be paired with a test base. im turning 26 and just preparing for my first cycle. read up in the diet section. im on the palumbo diet and am cutting around 3-4lb/week. Im 195 and take in 250g protein 50g fat 30 g carbs and do a carb refeed every 2 weeks...that might not work for you but there are tons of helpful threads in the diet sections(weight loss and weight gain)
As far as gyno, with Deca you got real high chances considering you are not running any Testosterone on your cycle which is the king of all compounds! Second thing my man i would strongly recommend to run one compound at the time so you learn how your body reacts(good and bad) to each compound, third, you are very young still bro, your hormones still like a fucken volcano exploding, a diet high in calories and protein will give you amazing results(calories at least 4000/day, protein at least 1 gram per pound of body weight) but if you decide to do your first cycle, my suggestion would be Test Enanthate or Cypionate at 500 mg/week for 12 weeks, split doses for example sunday and wednesday and Nolva and clomid for pct, start 3 weeks after last shot of test. Good luck bro and hope this help you, and feel free to ask bruh, there is people here with better knoledge than myself who can give you a better advice, cheers.
NewRoidGuythanks bro, think ima lay back and wait a while to start anything serious with tst then. What do you think about anavar tho? or should i stay away from it too, i just wanna get my 6 pack revealing without having to run my butt off for 9 hours a day for 3 months
Brother you have to work for it,honestly.do you think you don't have go put work in while on cycle? Technically you should go 10x harder when on cycle,but first you have to learn how to put work in without gear that's #1 if you can't do it without gear shit you dam sure aren't going to with it,the shit doesn't.work if you dont its not some magic shit,you know poof and you have a fucking 8 pack and 22's.not to mention 21 is too young..go natural for a couple years go hard and I promise you'll grow.listen to the vets on here they know there shit,and won't steer you wrong.
sgtstedankoIf you want it; you've got to work for it. Maybe this will help ;)
Please read it, in its entirety. Maybe run like a clen/eca/yohimbe stack along @ the beginning...
http://www.eroids.com/forum/training-nutrition-diet/workout-exercise/the...
Anavar only will ruin your boner.....check forums...research
Is your own choice bro, now for the six pack a clean diet with low calories will do the trick, yes anavar will help a bit if your body fat is low, just remember to achieve one goal at the time, seems like you trying to gain some weight may be i'm wrong, if you going to bulk up do it for at least 6-8 months and yes you will lose that six pack, but once you get to the weight you desire a clean diet low on carbs a decrease on your calorie intake and cardio at least 3 days a week for 30-45 mins will do the trick. That's exactly what i'm gonna do once i get to 200 pounds.
I second mike's first statement that you are young. Im relatively new here and young myself so I dont want to overstep any boundaries, however, you might want to wait a few years so you dont mess up your natural T. At 21 (which was just 5 years ago for me) I was too worried about banging chicks and partying my balls off to keep the regiment needed for a successful cycle. I think if you start knocking down 4k cal/day you should be able to make so good natural gains. if you do decide to go for the cycle which i think about 95% of the vets around here are gonna advise to wait remember EAT BIG/TRAIN HARD/REST/SLEEP...just my two cents, take it however you chose to.
NewRoidGuyThanks for the help too, and the help from everyone. I think i am gunna wait a few years even tho im 22 in a month, ill see what i can do till about 25. Can you advise on anything that might help me cut relatively fast then? would i be able to take anavar alone or should i wait till im older to take any kind on of steroid? would greatly appreciate some feedback
NEVER NEVER EVER take anavar or any oral alone, can shut down your Hpta
Where's the test? Doing deca with no test can lead to deca dick and you won't be able to get it up...firstly your young, you should just try a strict diet, eat eat eat and eat.some more then train heavy heavy heavy and see how your body grows..
Now if your like me your not gonns wait so keep it simple
12 weeks
1-12 test e or test C 500mg (split into two shots, mon/thurs)
Pct begins two weeks after last injection and looks like this
Nolva 40/40/20/20 (that 40mg everyday for first two weeks, and 20 mg Ed last two)
Clomid 100/100/50/50 (same thing)
Best bet is sticking to one compound for your first run and see how your body reacts, but your best bet might be to try proper diet and exercise first...what does ur diet look like?
NewRoidGuyMakes alot of sense actually, thanks mike. Iv tried everything else in the book, iv went on multiple protein madness months trying to build, which have worked but not to the extent iv pushed, the gym where im from is veryyyyyy small and there is only one on the island making it impossible to get the gains needed without any anabolic input. What im mainly looking for is to drop a decent amount of body-fat and body-fat% to reveal my 6pack while getting a slight-moderate amount of muscle gain. If you know any good cycles and gear for this kind of work please let me know mike, greatly appreciate it man (might anavar be a good thing for this?)
You can achieve the goals you want with just test E or C, just depends on how strict you are with your diet my brotha!!
NewRoidGuythanks man ill take all your info and place it for my first cycle, and the next thing should i use both nolva and clomid after the 12 weeks? or just the one? and should any be taken during the course or just after becuz i really aint wanna get gyno.
you really should take a look into the forums. and know why you need both pct. know why you may need AI on cycle and why test is the base of all cycles. trust me! i didnt know shit 3 weeks ago and now i swear i could have wrote a book. Everyone here will get on your shit if you ask whats saved on the forums as stickys too.
I will tell you that for a first cycle you will only want to run one compound at a time. I just started my first cycle and after all my research I'm just running test c for 12 weeks...
NewRoidGuythanks for the help, when you say just one compound would that include my PCT of nolvadex?
really don't want to be getting man boobs.