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The power and cut of the cycle is going just as I had hoped, but I am following up on the comments people have put and both conventional wisdom along with science say that I am being an asshole and seriously risking my health to try and use an AI only as needed. On the progestin, it is still pretty solid theory, but on the estrogen blocker/inhibitor it says I am just being dangerous to my body. Bloods did show an elevation in estro though not out of limits, so I am going to take advice and add this into cycle. I have to do the maths as my stock is 25mg tabs and I remember a bitch of a time splitting the damned things. I had a pill splitter, but it is nowhere to be found.
Going to log it as 25mg eod, but if I can split them nice enough, will actually be running 12.5 daily.
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Worrying about your AI is the least of your problems. Looking at your cycle log and then this picture. No offense man but your in way over your head.
Your running 750mg of deca and you dont even look like you workout. Changng doses every other week. You have no clue what your doing. 5 weeks in and you still dont look like you workout.Why??? Way over a gram of gear a week just to get back in shape? Do yourself a favor and abort this cycle never touch steroids again.
shirlsguyhttps://www.eroids.com/ebc/this-one-is-for-my-sons
I want to make it clear that ''getting back in shape" has to do a lot more with the gear. I did it last time, I will do it this time. It is not as hard as it seems, my worry this time is "keeping" it and not desiring a hard core cycle again. I don't have any question about ability, it was about getting back on track. As stated in the beginning of the cycle, I botched up the beginning miserably, loading with blends, nebido, etc., and getting it back on track is harder than just 'oops' thus the disclaimer in the beginning of the cycle. The cycle is really deca/test 750/600 for 12 weeks, I have put the other numbers in to show myself reality of what i have done. Yeah, it was a foolish load and if people see that then I served that, but this is for me. It is the end picture that matters and from there it is what I do with it. I am more excited this time, because I had not gone into my first cycle 'sober' I flirted with drink the whole way through. This time, I am doing it alcohol free and without all the fat burners, so i am pretty excited for the results. It just takes time.
You don't need gear to get in shape. The answers in your head not a beer bottle and not a bottle of deca. All joking aside. If you need to go see a shrink. Theres no shame in that. Goodluck.
shirlsguyYes, Sam, there is a big side of me that really wants to see the end of this plan as I do know the risk involved with the fat, lack of recent program, etc., but I am not about to tell lies here. Even my GP was pissed off at me when I asked him for the blood test order and when he asked me why, I told him, 'cause I'm using nandralone for my shoulder. Boy Howdy did he hit the ceiling, but steroids in the UK are not illegal. The laws are funny, but if I want to have a closet full and pin it, it is legal, and as I told the doctor, if I don't tell you the truth, you can't help me. I got the order for bull bloods, liver profile, bone density, the works.
Sam, if I hadn't put out my insane ideas, I'd still be hitting nebido and trying to get it to add up to something recognisable and a myriad of other mistakes.
Things that don't help, like my GP saying to me, 'Nandralone won't help with your shoulder' (he has seen me for years about the shoulder) when there we were rolling it about, raising it, lowering it and all sorts a day after military presses. Normally, a military press will leave me in pain for days on end.
From a kid, I wanted to cycle, as I was a runt, but I stayed away from it as natural lifting always progressed. Around the age of 36 my shoulder just quit functioning right from a much earlier injury where I was hit by a car, but I kept with the natural, just at a much lesser range than my maxes. At 45, my blood tests said I had the testosterone production of a 70-year old man and that was it for me. I went onto TRT and the change in my life was fantastic. So here I am, not too worried about crashing test production and not educated enough to really know all the other harms. I have found something that lets me lift again, to my limits and I am just trying to do it and stay alive and healthy. I know I am fouling up at every turn, but then that is why I keep reading and putting in, no matter how upset I get. If someone hurts my pride, I read, adapt and keep on plugging.
For the record, before you FBI my posts, I got in some Test E 250 today. I agree that the nebido was a shit idea and out of control. I will tell you one day of the mathematical stupidity I made trying to use that mammoth injection, but the good news is that I am not even half as test loaded as I thought I was, probably why I don't have sides for the test..... because there is likely not much getting in past the nandralone. The error goes something like this... calculating nebido as 4x1g in a 4ml vial when it is really 1g in a 4ml bottle. I've been pinning 250mg weekly when I thought I was pinning 1g. That would leave me around 500mg free test for the next four weeks, which is not a bad place to be, so it is a stroke of luck for me on that level.
Don't jump me too badly, I have read where one guy was pinning a vial eod for a week and was trying to figure out how to pin it in his leg. Some people stayed composed enough to educate him, but most asked, 'how the fuck you get that much in at a time and where?'
So do you plan on staying on deca the rest of your life? You know deca isnt going to heal your “shoulder problems” right? Its going to mask it and then be worse when you come off. Why do you even post your insansely stupid ideas when you have no intention of listening to anyone?
Kimbo Slice did and look what happened...
True story
shirlsguyYes, I have checked that aspect out too, I do realise that too. There are about 19 case studies I find frequently from heart failure due to thickened walls and failed valves. Blood tests don't catch that one and they don't just whip out scans freely. Most failures are quick and without warning, I do know that. Thank you for the pointer.
shirlsguyNo, I already had blood tests that day, I saw the GP for referral to an ortho and I got a second order for blood work while there. You can schedule appointments (and usually have to) as far as 6-weeks out. That gives me bloods pulled yesterday and a ticket to get them in a month or earlier if need be. UK is different.
Anyhow, I have to self-refer physio first, then I can get a referral to Ortho...etc. Kind of a lengthy process here, you can't just go to a specialist unless you start at your GP. I just finished six moths of private physio, deep tissue massage, even acupuncture, etc., nada.
I had the whole process in the States completed for orthoscopic surgery in 2000, but at the last minute, the surgeon told me that if something went wrong during the repair, they would have to remove the entire shoulder. No flipping way! I am hoping that keyhole surgery is advanced enough that such is no longer a case, it has been 14-years and things advance huge.
No, cannot run deca non-stop, I know that. No, not having my entire shoulder taken off as a risk either. For the next 90-days, I have a solution that will let me get back to the physical condition that I can respect and feel confident with.
jayiskif you insisted on deca should of just run NPP. why not try bpc-157 & TB-500 for you shoulder.
You can get great results on test only with less side effects. If your going to run the Deca anyway I would run my test 2 to 1. As example 500 mg test and 200 deca. You've ran these compounds before but not with that much bodyfat. The results may be very different. If it was me I would use NPP then if theres a problem at least it will clear out quicker. I'm not suggesting I think it's a good idea but that's what I would do.
Dominick77^ I agree with this man ^
My question is WHY do you keep letting yourself go..
I looked back and seen the progress you made several
Years ago. Just to let it all go...
Of course you need an ai. Why would you attempt not to... to cheap or to lazy to split the pills or WORSE your the guy that OH HE WILL SHOW US??? .. you will see a difference in 2 weeks after you start the ai. Dont be foolish. You have GOALS. Go and get them----- sky is the limit WHEN """ you LISTEN, when you eat right ,when you hit the cardio and gym hard... PUT IT ALL TOGEATHER then my friend you will be unstoppable
shirlsguyI have to avoid beating myself up too much on that, but it makes me sick. The answer is troubles, self pity, then drinking and it really took a lot to pull out of the funk. I knocked out three inches of belly fat the first five weeks and if everyone is right about the AI helping with that too, then I may just be a little better off than my worst.
You stated it just right..... 'show 'em I'm smarter, but I do read and the mass majority say I am an idiot. I can be thick in the head, but I do listen. I've been lucky that I had some really rigorous work and I farted around with gyms over the period, so it does come back. I have seen tons of people come back from disaster and turn their lives around and it goes damned fast, muscle memory and all, so I am confident. But yes, it is a damned shame!
Thank you for the input, this stuff drives me.
He's an addict that can't seem to help himself or get any kind of head strength....
That's seriously the worst physique I've seen on this site..
Dominick77lol Why'd he get the ban hammer?
I have no idea. He was a promo whore. Guy has no buisness running gear. I doubt he even lifts...
It's a big "welcome to the Mickey mouse haters club".
Guess he didnt hate Mickey mouse enough;(
WTF?! Why is it that the guys who write numerous, long articles about training, diets and gear have the Most shocking physiques on this website...To think that this guy was giving other members advice is beyond. He had us all on....
RustyhookerHe was here a long time and did have a good build. He posted up that addiction has grabbed ahold of him. Unfortunatly, hes got to fight that devil.
I argued and poked at him a lot recently. But i still hope he wins his fight. Addiction is no joke. And ive seen many fail by switching from drugs to hormones(drugs). That trait in the genes....
Dominick77I agree with you bro, I too have seen a close buddy fail by switching from rec drugs to bodybuilding drugs. In my opinion, its not a very smart thing to do as I truly believe an individual on hormones, who have addiction issues is setting himself/herself up to possibly fail, not all, but I have seen it personally. Hormones make a person overly confident and throw in the addiction to the mix, leads to poor decision making skills, which leads to the " I can do just one drink, one line and stop" thinking. Then all the clean sober time goes down the drain and they feel ashamed and guilty, which leads to more alcohol/drug use to cope with the feeling of failure, or they straight up just enjoy the drink/drug. Not pretty.
RustyhookerYessir. Feeling of control and confidence. Others that used drugs over image issues and start getting noticed for looking great, compliments coming on and get absorbed into 'its the gear and i cant be like this without it'. Lil works so more, more more...
Dominick77Right on bro. It's a vicious, downward spiral that most can't seem to overcome and if they happen to do so, it only lasts a few months then they take the risk and dance with the devil again. Knowing very well it wont end well.
jayiskSomeone that is new that just got clean and sober should stay off aas for at least a yr. They need to let their brain, body, and hormones reset themselves after yrs of abuse.
Plus they are not mentally and emotionally mature enough at that stage.
I did it once and I just basically switched one addiction to another.
Stayed off the drugs and alcohol for 3 yrs by doing cycles for 3 yrs. But i was obsessed with steroids and didn't do any work on my recovery.., no meetings and that stuff just the gym. I wasn't mature enough and didn't deal with any of my issues. So one day went out to see a band and instead of ordering water asked for a beer. Which turned into drinking about 18 of them. And fell back into another 15 yrs of hardcore addiction again.
I would disagree with the “good build” part. He permablasted grams upon grams of tren, deca and Test for months if not years at a time and used T3, Clen and god knows what else like it was sweeties. His physique at its best (EBC) was easily achievable with test only and a good diet. Once he came off for what ever reason he would loose it instantly. The guy is a liability and a waste of resources.
I do agree with you and hope he wins his fight, I don’t wish harm or misfortune on anyone.
I agree.
But bro. He really is stacked. Fall asleep. Start REM. imagine a stacked physique. Then when you wake up and see this pic.youll realize. If you look like this. Then you will never need aas. Because you are stacked. Just kidding. I will only work twice as hard tomorrow, only to not turn out like that. I hope he reaches his goal