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  • Edit Lab work from 2/9/21

  • Bigun2   •   Mon, Feb 22nd, '21 19:25   •   29 replies, 170 views

Cycle progress update

Pretty disappointing numbers. I’d hoped with all the meds I’ve been taking and for as long these numbers would have been a bit higher. Supposed to call the doctor tomorrow to discuss next steps.

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  • Enigma34's picture
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  • Enigma34
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Clomid 100mg nova 40mg, have you tried?

And a couple vials of HCG?

  • trash300's picture
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  • trash300
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We get your fertilty back, no worry.

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Look at comment lower in the thread, my sperm count came back at over 50 million. I’m fertile again!

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  • GrowMore
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Were you fertile before?

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Cheers for Helping him bud :-))

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Using the word help loosely!

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I’m not sure. Never gotten anyone pregnant, but then again I’ve never tried up until recently. I don’t have any reason to suspect I was not though.

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Have you tested your sperm count since the 0 test now you’ve been running Clomid?

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Yes, so I had it tested Sept of 2020. Sperm count was 0, but I was still on TRT dosed Test that I’d been on for several years. So stopped all Test, started taking pharma Clomid at 50mg ed Sept 2020. One month ago I upped Clomid to 100mg ed, added hcg 500iu eod and hmg 75iu eod. I had my sperm tested again 2/9/21 but have not received the results back yet. To answer your question simply: yes, waiting for results.

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We will all be hoping for an improvement on those numbers, even a low number will give you a fighting chance. Keep hopes up brother, positive thinking changes fate. Keep us posted.

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YOO I got a lot of sperm. 50.6 million whereas anything over 16 million is considered good. Of those motility is 23% where they’d like to see 40%+. Progressive motility is 6% where 3-4 is considered awesome. So definitely good news!

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Meant to say mate extremely Good news here!! :-))

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Thanks bro. We’re extremely happy!

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Good effort mate, she’ll be complaining about swollen feet and back pain in not time!

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I already told her she’s getting that work when she gets home! This is a great day. I’ve spent all week trying to resign myself to the fact that perhaps being a father wasn’t going to be in the cards for me. So glad that appears not to be the case.

I sent you a fr id like to pm you a few questions if you don’t mind.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I don’t think it’s God’s will for me to not be a father. We’ll just keep thinking positive thoughts and let God work it out.

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  • press1
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Damn that all looks pretty bad - is that on nothing then, no test or anything?

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No test or other aas since Sept of 2020. I’ve been on 50mg pharma Clomid since Sept 2020.

In Jan 2020-present I added 50 more mg Clomid Ed (total 100mg ed), 500iu hcg eod and 75 iu hmg eod.

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Is the idea just to move to TRT then?

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I had been blasting/cruising for multiple years. I came off to attempt to get my wife pregnant. We went to fertility specialist and my sperm count was 0. Here’s a link to the log I’ve been doling to document my journey of trying to regain fertility: https://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/fertilityspermatogenesis-reboot-using-hcghmgclomid-after-multiple-years-blastingcruising

Suffice it to say these results are a major kick in the dick. I knew my sex drive had been 0 but I really thought it was bc my e2 or prolactin was out of wack. I really didn’t consider with all I’ve been taking to reboot my HPTA that my test would be that low still. So I’m kinda lost now. Idk what to do to try and get better.

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I think running gear for multiple years with no proper breaks, and approaching 40 it may be too late now. Maybe if it were done in your early 20's it would have been reversible but I think after 30 the male hormone system weakens considerably even when not on gear and being natty. I have been doing what you have done so I have no good advice on the subject - But from what I've seen Trash300 knows a lot in this area.

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I hope you’re not right but the more time goes by without recovering I’m more and more afraid you may be correct.

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Sorry bud, I meant to respond to your comment last night but had the day from hell having a wisdom tooth removed so went to bed Lol The thing is pal is how into your training are you - do you plan on keeping on training for the rest of your life? Because if you do surely its more beneficial to be back on a good dose of TRT test again. The gains as we all know are waaaayyy better than with natty levels which get worse by the years, I mean lets face it there's nothing like the gains back when you were 21 is there? Plus you can still get your girl pregnant on TRT Test and you WILL feel tonnes better about everything in life. Why not just say get the ball rolling and get back on 200mg/wk of some good Pharma Grade amps again? 1 injection per week is nothing in terms of the time it takes up. Just accept things have now changed, I wish I didn't waste 15 years of my life being an alcoholic and rotting my teeth away but I did - nothing I can do about it now. Let's move on to better times mate :-)))

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First of all, I’m also a friend of Bill W.’s. Been in recovery 10 years. Always good to see a fellow trudger lol.

I completely agree with what you’re saying. My plan all along was to come off TRT, get wife pregnant and then go back on TRT. I’d never considered that I could stay on TRT and still manage to get her pregnant. I will have to do some research as to what that would look like. Is it as simple as taking my usual 200mg test C a week in addition to the Clomid/hcg/hmg? Also, thanks for your help and words of encouragement.

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Hey Nice one mate - I'm coming up to 7 years just about. Funny how we could have never EVER perceived a sober life with no alcohol then all of a sudden we've done many years without a drop of it! Don't get me wrong I've had my moments where training is bad for weeks on end or injuries erupt and I think Sod it all - lets retaliate against myself and get pissed Lol Then I give my head a shake and remind myself I made a Big promise to a higher power that I would never go down that Shit road of a dirt track again as long as he looks after me :) Which until this day he has since the night I quit ......

I think it is just a case of getting back on some test again, I have several friends on here who have been on heavy cycles of all sorts and managed to get their other half pregnant when they weren't planning to. I am pretty sure Growmore did - send him an FR in my contacts or find him in the forums :)

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Yea he’s been helping me on some other posts I’ve made. I’m going to continue with the Clomid, hcg and hmg and see if things are any different in 3 months.

Just sucks rolling around w test levels of 68 everyday. I feel like a eunuch. I guess one bright spot is I can now tell younger guys like yo, I have first-hand experience why it’s wise to wait and use responsibly.

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  • Molinin302
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My bro, use your head. I always give labwork a +, but you just posted your name and address. Take this down and pray to whatever God you believe in its not too late.

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Holy fuck my life. THANK YOU. I’m so out of sorts and honestly depressed ab how bad the numbers are that I didn’t even think ab my info being on the reports. Thank you so much, seriously bro. That’s some of the dumbest shit I’ve done in a long time. I’m just fucked in my head right now.