posted Wed, 02/24/2016 - 13:25
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+ 3 Test/Tren/mast cycle - the best cycle, in my opinion
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
If anyone wants to chime in and help me tweak my numbers, feel free! This is what I ran it at last time, so I'm just starting at those numbers. I have pharma adex and caber on hand if problems arise but I've yet to have major problems from Tren.
Thinking about jump starting my cycle with an oral. Any ideas or tips on what to use and how much for this specific cycle?
I've been on trt for almost 7 years so there will be no pct. my test will go down to 200mg/week after cycle. Staying with the test e rather than test p since I'm on trt and test e has already kicked in
| Week | Test E | Tren a | Mast p |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 2 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 3 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 4 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 5 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 6 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 7 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 8 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 9 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
| 10 | 250mg | 600mg | 500mg |
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I'm running something similar, it's a great spring stack.
MrEddyDefinitely bro. What u runnin?
I posted it, an 8 week tren a, test prop, mast, winny, hgh, and I still do my test c TRT dose.
From reading, I know you've even on trt for years but, How long have you been at the 200mg dose? Have you had bloods run at that dose? What's it keep your test levels at? Just curious because I'm on trt as well
mustafa5903excellent cycle
I'm getting ready to run the exact stack, just curious about the results you got on this? I've run Tren & EQ but not Mast, but I've heard good things.
MrEddyMy body fat wasn't as low last time I ran it. So the mast didn't do much that you could see, as I expect it will this time. Although, I could feel the mast was making my muscles harder. And the Tren/test did as usual, I lost weight and gained muscle while strength went up.
MrEddyThanks for all the responses and tips guys. Gonna start the mast at 400 and work my way up every couple weeks if no complications.
I just want to ask , how is your hair with mast ? Because this the only thing make me not think about mast , I would love to add it last 6 weeks from my 14 weeks cycle in summer but I afraid be bold , ( I'm already ugly without hair I'll be scary ).
MrEddyWell I shave my head. When it does start to grow back it doesn't seem like I'm losing a lot of hair but I have seen a good friend of mine go from head full of hair to extremely thin after a few cycles of it. Not sure what he ran it at tough or for how long.
RustyhookerMast turns the rest of my body into a fuzzy mess. The spots ya dont want it...ugh. lol
MrEddyLol!! Hell, I might need to stay away from it. My ol lady already complains about how hairy I am!!
RustyhookerMines nutty. She'll pluck em out. Somehow she thinks its fun watching me jump. Lol
I love mast though. When it hits, I get snappy...dht...but I like its effects.
MrEddyI've ran it before and liked it but not at the low bf% I'm at now with my diet dialed in like it is. So, I'm looking forward to it more than ever.
RustyhookerI run it for its ai properties. It add lil muscle but its great for hardening. Keeps wood hard as a rock too. Saw palmetto for prostate. Its in most of my cycles.
So I'm thinking to add it last 6 weeks from my next cycle . I'll put the plan of my cycle here and wait the expert to check it and advise me .
When running short esters of anything, I always felt that was enough of a kick for a cycle and would shy away from running orals. It is not like you have to wait 4-5 wks to get cranking like you do with the long esters.
RustyhookerIm not really sure you need an oral. That stack is so strong by itself. Tren kills my appetite plus heartburn. When I added anavar, both were worse.
For me, going past 6 weeks was a mental chore. Then tren really tweaks the thinking. 10 might bite ya depending on your personal reactions. If diet is dialed, you'll make your marks.
MrEddyMy first run with Tren a was 6 weeks, then I did 8. The run wth 6 weeks was not a problem at all. 8 weeks I started having problems with anxiety but nothing major. I'm gonna shoot for 10 weeks this time but I could definitely see myself stopping early, maybe around 8-9 week mark. I've been working on my diet ahead of time to have to perfect to start this cycle. Thanks for input bro
Why don't you just keep rolling with your trt dose of test e or bump it up 50more mg to 250mg. It is not like you have to wait for the ester to build up since you are already pinning 200mg/wk for trt. Don't really see a reason why to switch over to test P.
MrEddyExactly why I post. Didn't even begin to think about that. Just thought of the norm to run all short esters. Last time I had to switch from prop back to e, it was such a pain in the ass, LITERALLY. lol. How much of a difference in terms of water retention with e versus p? Thanks a lot brother. I'll stay with the e
With that much mast, I don't think you are going to have to be worried about water retention. If you are not having issues with water retention on your TRT dose I don't see why you would need to be concerned here either. I would be worried about drying up to much and crashing estro with that amount of mast. If you survived that much mast before though, you should be ok.
MrEddyWhat would you run the mast at?
I still haven't found the optimal mast dose for me to run without crashing my estro. I am still working with mast to actually figure that out. I know that much would crash it for me though. I personally would have to probably start out around 300mg and I wouldn't be touching any AI or provi with that. The mast is essentlally there as a hardener, it is not going to be much of a tissue builder. So I personally would start out on the lower end say 300mg or so and as I got leaner, where the hardness would now be more apparent, then I would bump up the mast dose to say that 500mg level.
Especially if you are running your test low.
MrEddyThanks for input. Sounds like the best bet is to start the mast lower and if it's smooth sailing, I'll raise it as I go.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^spot on!
You didn't have any issues running ace with long ester test? Being your test would be elevated slightly obviously first few weeks till it really kicked in... Why not just run the traditional prop at same dose throughout bro, and IF you did you'd want to run the prop a week after you stop the tren.... Thoughts? Also can you post pct, im sure you're squared away , just feels incomplete without it being posted Bro
MrEddyDidn't even see that it said test e, it was already there when I filled info. I thought it just said "test" so I just left it. I'll add that in. Also, I'm on trt and have been for years from a childhood Illness. But I should put that on there anyways since you pointed it out. Thanks for the input brother.
Ahh gotcha bro, so prop it is, right on looks solid