Cambolad's picture
Cambolad
  • 20
8451

TEST/DECA/ADROL

ad
STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

70KG
10% BF
38
5'6

Hoping to jump up to 75kg.

My main concern is deca dick and just ED. I'd like advice on combating this using Proviron and or Cabergoline.

Kickstarting PCT with 250mg Clomid and 100mg Nolva on day one.

Day 1 Clomid 250mg + Nolvadex 60mg
Following 14 days Clomid 100mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 14 days Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg

ALL feedback appreciated.

WeekTest EDecaAnadrolAdexProviron?Caber?ClomidNolva
1750mg50mg ed3mg
2750mg450mg50mg ed3mg
3750mg450mg50mg ed3mg
4750mg450mg50mg ed3mg
5750mg450mg50mg ed3mg
6750mg450mg50mg ed3mg
7750mg450mg3mg
8750mg450mg3mg
9750mg450mg3mg
10750mg450mg3mg
11750mg450mg3mg
12750mg450mg3mg
13750mg450mg3mg
14750mg3mg
153mg
163mg
17100mg40mg
18100mg40mg
1950mg20mg
2050mg20mg
Cambolad's picture

I appreciate all the feedback I've received and I'll definitely take it on board. It does seem however that I've been penilised (deducted karma points) for possibly suggesting this cycle.

That's the only reason I can think of as all discourse has been civil, polite and constructive. I'd appreciate and couple of brownie points for the way I've interacted throughout this thread as I could then rate my source. You have to have like +5 or more right?

Anyway, I've reconsidered my original cycle and all feedback has been very useful.

press1's picture

Bud it's just because you are light that someone may have penalised you. I've always been very light too - In fact I was generally around 75kg and I use to eat tonnes as a natty. I too now though get a lot of calories from drinks - Lucozade with 150g Dextrose carbs added to it each time and 50g Protein shakes and 15g Pepto shakes. It all soon adds up and puts weight on. I think you are from the U.K also right? We are much lighter in build compared to the U.S and they tend to be much heavier to begin with. Many a time I have seen guys on here at 90kg without much training or any gear in them yet. Credit to you for your attitude ++

Cambolad's picture

Hi mate, yes I'm from the UK and both parents are/were small so naturally I'm a small guy.

I'll make sure my diet and training is on point and go easy on the PED's.

Cheers bro.

DbolAndAll's picture

750mg of test, 3rd cycle cmon bruh. what does your diet look like, calories, macros, traning. 3rd cycle and youre what 70kg at that height. heres some tips bro. DROP THE SYRINGE AND PICK UP THE FORK.

Cambolad's picture

I here you bro. Your not the first person to mention diet and I totally understand that without a solid meal plan, it's pointless even stepping into a gym, let alone using PED.

I've reconsidered my cycle and here's what I'm thinking:

TEST/DECA/DBOL

500/250/40
15/14/6

I'm not a massive eater but I'm learning to consume quality calories through drinks to compensate.

So an average day might look like this:

Wake up: breakfast shake (oats, bananas, protein powder, raisins, almonds)

Early morning workout followed by protein shake. Then 3 meals consisting of quality carbs and protein such as chicken breast, eggs, fish, rice, sweet potatoes. I also make sure I include carrots, broccoli, tomatoes, onions and garlic in my meals for the numerous health benefits.

So that's my plan. It looks like I'm going to have to pay out for Prov and Caber but I think when taking deca it's an absolute necessity.

I appreciate your comment and thank you in advance for any further feedback.

DbolAndAll's picture

track your calories, track your macros, track your micros. an intricate detailed diet plan will get you farther than any steroid ever will (except tren lol,kinda) another critique on your cycle DONT use dbol for more than 4 weeks, there are reasons why many people don't go over 4 weeks and 40mg of it bruh Arnold could get peeled and pack on quality muscle with just 3 5mg pills of dbol and 1 shot of primo and deca you DO NOT NEED 40mg start with 20mg instead it will be easier to manage estrogen sides and your bp will be better

Cambolad's picture

Solid feedback. Much appreciated mate. I'm still a small guy so perhaps less is more as they say.

Cambolad's picture

Question: Does Tren A have the same effect on libido as Deca? That is, does it or can it cause erectile dysfunction? and low sex drive?

Before you scream at me, this is for informational purposes only. I have no intention of taking tren on my third cycle.

press1's picture

They are pretty much the same as each other I find. When I'm considering trying out a new compound the LAST thing I'm thinking about is whether I can still get an erection or not on it - All I think about is how much strength and muscle am I gonna get out of it?

Cambolad's picture

Sure mate totally agree. However, sex is a very enjoyable and important part of people's lives. Therefore, I would really like to avoid any issues in that department. Providing my training, recovery, and diet is on point, the gains will come. I'm confident of that.

MonstrousS's picture

Just wanna share my experience with deca if you don't mind (assuming reason for post).

I began a 15 week deca cycle with a higher test to deca ratio. About 2/5ths of the way thru I got hit extremely bad with high estro sides that came over night, and would NOT go away despite taking large amounts of aro. I immediately switched my cycle to lower test higher deca, and as the next week went by, the sides subsided and I made great mass gains with minimal water bloat when it was done. Still had water to lose, but not nearly as much as my local friends seem to get from deca. I later found out that my aro was bunk af.

So my claim is not that i found out higher test is bad. That was probably due to bunk aro. My claim is that higher deca isn't objectively a bad cycle method. I never even experienced anything that I thought could resemble deca dick for the entire cycle. I also found out that people are kinda quiet about it, but plenty of folks prefer this method for themselves. If you look around eroids you'll see what I mean. It's just that the popular opinion is to go higher test. IMO deca dick has SOME modality that isnt simply, "doing deca causes deca dick", so something I did most likely kept that side effect from ever happening. which, I simply followed the rules and used a bit of aro and a bit of caber. It's also possible that a person can be more or less genetically predisposed to deca dick, and anyone who prefers higher deca happens to not be one.

BootyGear's picture

What causes Deca dick is more so that Deca converts to DHN testosterone converts to DHT, DHT is an important sex hormone DHN can kill your libido. So the theory is running higher test will balance that but you just won’t convert enough DHT to combat DHN effects. So to avoid Deca dick the best way to run Deca is to run it along side a DHT like anavar, provrion, winstrol,primo, Superdrol ^ I believe Anadrol too but for me I’m not a huge fan of Abombs

In a promo × 1
Bearded_muscle's picture

The conversion is correct but not necessarily the cause of deca dick. When I’m on deca I’m rocked up multiple times a day like I’m in high school again. And I run it with zero test.

My total test on bloodwork comes back around 100 maybe less. But free test comes back at the top of the range. There is more going on than just DHN conversion. Look more to the hypersensitivity of prolactin, progesterone and estrogen receptors in the presence of nandrolone for your answer.

MonstrousS's picture

Ahhh good to know! I didnt experience any level of deca dick while I ran it, but that doesn't mean anything for the future. I notice you didn't mention masteron despite it being one of the primary DHT based compounds. There a reason for that, or did it just not come to mind.

Thanks for explaining the DHN part.

Lowkii's picture

Jesus Christ! Why is nobody commenting on the fact that this his is THIRD cycle and he only weigh's 70kg? Maybe you should try actually eating food first and stop looking for the magic gains in steroids when you can't even diet correctly.

Zalewski's picture

Shit that's crazy, even for his height. I think I broke that weight sophomore year of high school

Cambolad's picture

Right final decision based on feedback and some research.

TEST/DECA/DBOL

500/250/40

0.25 of caber twice a week to combat prolactin, and obviously adex on hand for possible gyno and excessive water retention.

Thanks for the feedback, I think this will be a good and sensible third cycle.

Cambolad's picture

So after watching a video of Greg Doucette's, I'm rethinking my dosages.

Test/Deca/Adrol

600/300/50

With 250mg twice per week of Cabergoline as an anti-prolactin, drop the Proviron.

Cambolad's picture

Also, the deca is meant to be good for joints which with my old school style workout of good ol fashion heavy lifts, it will be a great help I think.

Can anyone tell me how much Proviron I would need?

BootyGear's picture

25mg Provrion morning / 25 evening, this will give you enough DHT to maintain high libido. Don’t crush estrogen either or libido will be trash.

In a promo × 1
Cambolad's picture

I like your cycle and I'm going to do the same.

TEST/DECA/DBOL

500/250/40

The DBOL is sold in 20's so I'll just take two a day for 6 weeks.

This will be plenty for me, help to keep sides at a minimum, and give me more room for progression in future cycles.

Thanks for the feedback!

Cambolad's picture

Thanks for the feedback. I have read conflicting views regarding Deca dosages. But I have read that you don't always need a lot as you have said. Definitely food for thought. Thanks for the feedback.

Blaaahdk's picture

I Will tell you This have you done any cycles before This ? if not then look up first cycle on here . Keep it simple. If not then i Think eating Maybe should be your next cycle? Jump to 75 kg with all Them cp ?regarding deca dick bloodwork 4-5 weeks in and midway and adjust caber to That its not to be taken lightly ;) Anyways just My 2cents

Happygolucky's picture

My husband took deca a few years ago and let's just say our sexlife was up in the air even a few weeks after he stopped it

Happygolucky's picture

My husband took deca a few years ago and let's just say our sexlife was up in the air even a few weeks after he stopped it

felony's picture

Pics or it didn't happen.

Owes a Review × 1 In a promo × 1
Cambolad's picture

This is my main concern. I think with more test, caber, and possibly Proviron, this shouldn't be an issue.

Blaaahdk's picture

You are missing the point...

Cambolad's picture

Hi and thanks for the feedback. This will be my third cycle.

Obviously nutrition is key. CT Fletcher himself said "steroids don't make you big, food does"
I didn't include my eating plan, but rest assured it'll include quality carbs and protein in the right amounts.

I'm not sure how much Proviron to use and for how long?