posted Thu, 08/23/2012 - 16:30
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Test E/Dbol 2nd cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Age 30
Hight 5"11
lbs 175
Bf 11%
I eat around 4000 cal a day.
I was also thinking about running the dbol for 6 weeks.
I would like to put on as much mass as possible .Any advice would be great thanks.
Any advice would be great thanks.
| Test E | Dbol | Adex | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 600mg | 50mg | .5ml | ||
| 600mg | 50mg | .5ml | ||
| 600mg | 50mg | .5ml | ||
| 600mg | 50mg | .5ml | ||
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| 600mg | .5ml | |||
| 600mg | .5ml | |||
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| 11 | .5ml | |||
| 12 | .5ml | |||
| 13 | 50mg | 100mg | ||
| 14 | 50mg | 100mg | ||
| 15 | 50mg | 50mg | ||
| 16 | 50mg | 50mg | ||
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AnonLooks good. I've never run tbol but from everything I've read it is better and a little safer than dbol. Less sides and better gains. If you are intent on staying with dbol and running it for 6 weeks lower the dose to 30mg per day less stress on the liver. With dbol a lot of people say they get better results with lower amounts. I personally didn't see much of a difference other than water weight mostly in the face which I hated (haven't run dbol since) I would give the tbol a try.
zewiGood stuff down below. So im just going to write out for you what my thoughts are in a cycle. IMO
Cycle
1-6 Tbol @50mg ED
1-12 Test e @ 500mg a week split(monday thursday)
Ai since you have Adex .25mg EOD if nipples get sore than .5mg eod if still sore .5mg ed
Pct start 15 days after last shot
clomid 100/100/50/50
nova 40/40/20/20
I wen with tbol cause you will get the mass but you wont get the water weight and you can run it longer. More test doesn't mean bigger gains.
Thanks for all the advice everyone i really appreciate it.
GOLDEN
My last go round i started at .25 eod got sides and was up to. 5 ed before they went away. Thats the only reason why i was thinking about starting so high. Do you think .5 ed would hinder my gains? Thanks
zewino .5 is fine you might think about switching AI's-- and going with Aromasin @ 12.5mg eod--Aromasin works like Adex but Aromasin tends to hold on to estro and not let go like Arimidex does. So if you are prone to sides try switching your AI--i think it would help.
I agree with dropping back to 500 instead of 600mg!
why most guys go for Dbol not Tbol if Dbol makes you so bloated like w water balloon? cheaper maybe?
Mostly cause its cheaper. And its a familiar compound that everyones herd of. But hell in this game can't be afraid to spend the extra cash for the extra quality. Most people just don't gather that concept.
I would go for Tbol not Dbol for 6 weeks instead of 4. Also tbol is easier on the liver
Totally agree bro. Easier on the liv and better quality gains.
mr127superdeeif your dead set on running d bol dont go 50 mg try 25 or 30mg and definetly not for 6 weeks or you prostate will be so swollen you wont be able to shit seriously second cycle your not used to estro control either maybe drop d bol all togather like fast said
I would:
30 MG/DAY DBOL (I'm sure you know to take it with food)
Run ADEX at .25
Taper your Nolva
Nolva.....40...40....20...20
I had issues last cycle at only 400mg
There's been a bunch of writeups lately on bunk ai's. Watch for liw estro signs. If you bought same brand you should chevk its not bunk. 400 is low dose. Another reason to drop dbol is high estro conversion
what king of issues?
Nips got very sore and puffy.
Drop back to 500mgs....drop the dbol unless you like puffy baloon man. 12Weeks cycle. Prop kicker 100eod.. Mass is gained thru diet/exercise. 2.5grams protein per pound. Protein every three hours.
Y 500mg vs 600mg? Thanks
And why so much adex? Why from day one?