+ 1 Test E and Deca Cycle #2 (Before Pics Added)!!
Hey everyone,
This will be my 2nd official cycle. My first cycle was a bit of a risk for me. I did a 10 week cycle of Test C. Had gyno issue throughout the entire cycle, but was told that was normal. After 10 weeks I waited another 2 and then followed up with some Nolva hoping that would cure my gyno problem...it did not. However, through all this I discovered Aromasin and Letro. Miracle drugs in my opinion! Everything is cured up and I'm ready to try this again.
A few stats:
Before first cycle I was 195 10% body fat. I have been lifting for many years. Majored in Health and Exercise Science, so I have a good knowledge base of WO's and nutrition.
After 10 weeks I was up to 210 12% body fat. It felt great to be that size, finally felt like all the lifting was paying off. I am a serious hard gainer so getting to this size was an amazing feeling.
I am currently 6' and a pretty solid 195-200 lbs at 9% body fat. I've been stuck in this range for a year now and I need that boost again. Oh and I'm 25!
Let me know what you think.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Deca | Aromasin | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 E3D | ||
| 2 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 E3D | ||
| 3 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 E3D | ||
| 4 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 E3D | ||
| 5 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 6 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 7 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 8 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 9 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 10 | 600mg | 400mg | 25 EOD | ||
| 11 | 600mg | 25 EOD | |||
| 12 | 600mg | 25 EOD | |||
| 13 | 600mg | 25 EOD | |||
| 14 | 600mg | 25 EOD | |||
| 15 | |||||
| 16 | |||||
| 17 | 40 ED | 100 ED | |||
| 18 | 40 ED | 100 ED | |||
| 19 | 20 ED | 50 ED | |||
| 20 | 20 ED | 50 ED |
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Take zewis advise and do first cycle properly. Wait on deca. You only though you had nipple problems till ya add in something that requires more attention. If its run improperly you get leaky nipples and useless Weiner. And for anyone on second cycle...the posted cycle is too high and I'd not suggest deca til later on.
Sounds like you guys know what you're talking about. Thanks for the advice. I will hold off on the Deca for now. Maybe if this cycle is run with no problems I will give it a go down the road. Now, my next concern is hiding these packages from my gf lol.
Ya...doing the test only correctly make big difference. Deca has its place as a wet bulker but theres more prwcautions to take. Most folks can do the simple test only for many cycles and grow. The gf.....that's another thing. Lol. Youre gonna put on 12lbs quickly. Good luck....happy growing!
zewi"Had gyno issue throughout the entire cycle" I would stay away from the DECA, and lower your Test E..
IMO what i would do and think you should do. Is Instead of adding another compound I would run another Test E cycle. To understand your body better and how to fight your Gyno issue with an AI. You have one body if you had issues before don't add something figure out an AI, and how to keep those Gyno issues at pay first before adding something else. And since you have Gyno issues when you do add another compound i think EQ would be better than Deca for you.
IMO i would run this (uncle zewi cares)
1-12 TEST E @ 500mg a week (250mg monday, 250mg Thursday)
Arimidix .25mg EOD if nipples get sore go to .5mg EOD if still sore go to .5mg If still sore post on the forums..
PCT start 15 days after
clomid 100/100/50/50
nova 40/40/20/20
And if things go well no Gyno then run this on your next cycle.
1-14 EQ @ 400mg a (you can take it at the same time as the test)
1-16 TEST E @ 500mg a week (250mg Monday, 250mg Thursday)
Arimidix .25mg EOD if nipples get sore go to .5mg EOD if still sore go to .5mg If still sore post on the forums..
PCT start 15 days after
clomid 100/100/50/50
nova 40/40/20/20
This is a good point. I have some decisions to make. Thanks zewi!
i would put some clomid in your cycle with your nova, at 100.100.50.50, you should think of droping the deca and going with EQ, great for mass building and it doesnt hit the system so hard. but if you want to run deca then the dose seems good, you might need some caber in there to help with your sex life. and imo i would run the deca at least one more week..
So, what benefit would the clomid have that Nolva wouldn't cover? I haven't used it before. And the Deca is already on hand and I have a ten week supply so I'm probably going to stick with that. Is it good to run that at the beginning of the cycle like this or should I stagger it up another 2 weeks (start week 3)? Thanks for the input!
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/please-read-h......
this will help you understand how important clomid is in your pct and recovery, that's fine with the deca, i would run it 10 weeks then, but start when you start your test injections, you can inject them at the same time to avoid more pins
and i would run your AI every three days for the first two weeks instead of EOD.. your joints are going to feel that. so start with every 3 days and if you still see signs of high estrogen then you can go to EOD
After reading some things, I will add the clomid and caber. I just don't know how I should dose the caber?
Start low with the caber as it can become addiction due to the way it going to make u feel when u get off. So start off low and if u last longer than wanting up the dose, i cant tell u what to take because everybody is different